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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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07-06-2021, 12:57 PM | #30676 | |
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07-06-2021, 01:00 PM | #30677 | |
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Mahomes may go down as the greatest pro-athlete of ALL time. We're discussing Allen's standing as a top 5 QB, not whether or not he's better than Mahomes. |
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07-06-2021, 01:04 PM | #30678 | |
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So if Mahomes is the best player of all time which is possible, Allen being #2 actually perfectly fits what you just described. |
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07-06-2021, 01:05 PM | #30679 | |
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07-06-2021, 01:07 PM | #30680 |
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07-06-2021, 01:11 PM | #30681 | |
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From an ability perspective? Absolutely. Top 2 arm, possibly #1. Delivers accurate footballs from anywhere on the field. Has that Mahomes/Rodgers ability to throw an accurate ball regardless of foot/body position. Size and speed to be a legit dual threat QB. Another season like last season will erase all doubts about his ability. If Allen is going to have postseason success the Bills have to get better. You can't go into the postseason with only 1 guy who can win 1v1 matchups, a poor defense and no run game and expect to have good results. |
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07-06-2021, 01:16 PM | #30682 | |
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He depends on his legs a lot more than Mahomes/Rodgers. Mahomes is the greatest off-platform thrower the NFL has ever seen. Allen is a bit better than average now, not special. |
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07-06-2021, 01:20 PM | #30683 | |
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07-06-2021, 01:23 PM | #30684 |
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07-06-2021, 01:29 PM | #30685 |
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07-06-2021, 01:38 PM | #30686 | ||||
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I agree with most of the latter half of your post, except for saying Diggs is their only good receiver. Beasley and John Brown are pretty good for what they are: a slot guy and a speedster. Quote:
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But you've got the first half all wrong. I'm not the type of guy to form an opinion and not change it if given new information. I've watched Allen a ton and his accuracy is still questionable. |
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07-06-2021, 01:45 PM | #30687 | |
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Beasley is the epitome of average NFL receiver. Those types of guys are ok during the season, but in the Playoffs, playing playoff defenses, you need better than that. I mean, lulz, just look at what the Chiefs did to the Bills defensively. That tells you a lot about what teams think of Beasley and Brown. |
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07-06-2021, 01:47 PM | #30688 |
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Beasley is really good at getting separation but also he may never play again, the whole city has turned on him for being a moron about vaccinations
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07-06-2021, 01:56 PM | #30689 |
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07-06-2021, 01:57 PM | #30690 |
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Stefon Diggs is a stud and is the perfect security blanket for Allen. How many highlight reel catches did Diggs make last season? That doesn't completely negate what Allen is or brings, but it has to be considered. Remember how Tony Gonzalez would make whatever QB was throwing to him look above average to good? Kind of the same thing with Diggs in regards to Allen.
Allen isn't dogshit by any means. I would take him right now over Lamar Jackson, but I feel his ceiling may be Phillip Rivers with less interceptions and more rushing. He and Baker Mayfield might be competing with Justin Herbert for second best AFC QB for the next decade. |
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