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12-24-2017, 03:02 PM | #166 |
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12-27-2017, 07:12 PM | #167 |
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TIL the second officer of the Titanic, who survived by swimming from the sinking ship to a capsized raft, later in life sailed his civilian craft to Dunkirk and helped evacuate over 130 men. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearn...SQ&sh=a31259bd
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01-05-2018, 12:11 PM | #168 | |
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Both the eastern front and the pacific campaign were just unbelievably brutal. |
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01-05-2018, 12:49 PM | #169 |
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A little 8 minute black and white 'silent movie' re-imagining of Dunkirk. Kinda interesting
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01-05-2018, 02:54 PM | #170 | |
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01-05-2018, 06:26 PM | #171 | |
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Most of those German deaths were the eastern front. Stalingrad accounted for almost 2 million deaths by itself. |
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01-06-2018, 05:55 AM | #172 | |
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01-06-2018, 05:57 AM | #173 |
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Right, more people died on the eastern front and the conditions were brutally awful. That’s just fact.
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01-06-2018, 07:50 AM | #174 |
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Putting aside the regional conflicts that continued well past 1945 and focusing just on the major Axis/Allied war itself, one facet of the eastern/western front debate is the development and use of atomic bombs. There's no telling how much longer the Pacific campaign would have lasted nor how many lives would have been lost had the battle versus Japan ended conventionally. It's odd to say it, but at the least hundreds of thousands were saved, perhaps millions.
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01-07-2018, 12:30 PM | #175 | |
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01-07-2018, 03:37 PM | #176 |
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Yes, there were. Men in penal companies were forced to charge German machine guns without weapons. And there was nowhere near the amount of civilian suffering encountered in the Pacific theater between the US and Japan. The Japanese did awful things to the Chinese, but there was widespread rape and murder perpetrated by both armies (and their partisans) on the Eastern front.
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01-08-2018, 02:38 PM | #177 |
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01-08-2018, 05:37 PM | #178 |
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Saw it. Fell SUPER flat with me. Boring movie with absolutely zero payoff. I usually go gaga for this stuff.
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01-08-2018, 06:48 PM | #179 | |
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Stalin's promises were worth about as much as Hitler's. |
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01-08-2018, 07:45 PM | #180 | |
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