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09-11-2017, 08:44 AM | #46 |
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Can we at least acknowledge the obvious: so long as Smith plays like he did Thursday on a consistent basis, and the defense doesn't suffer any more devastating injuries like it did with Berry -- this is a Super Bowl caliber team.
The way they played on Thursday means that when they are "on" in this regard, only a couple teams can really hang with them, and those teams are all in the AFC. Maybe the Steelers in the NFC, maybe. And if Hightower recovers fully, maybe the Pats, maybe. But if this team has Super Bowl chops, and until we see Smith turn into a pumpkin for more than a couple games this season, keeping Smith has to be a viable option going forward. You don't stick with moving on to Mahomes for the sake of the cost it took to get him. You move on to him when he's the best option. Assuming Smith plays like he did Thursday on a consistent basis (man-sized if), and this team either advances to the Super Bowl or at least shows Super Bowl chops for this season and postseason, then I think we need to say keeping Smith for 2018 is our default position until he gives us serious reasons to think otherwise. |
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09-11-2017, 09:41 AM | #47 | |
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I love Allen Robinson, but from what I've seen, priority #1 for the Chiefs financially has to be keeping Mitch Morse and Bennie Logan. I'm all for using the $$ on elite caliber lineman to protect Mahomes and blow up runnng plays. Those are rare players that are difficult to replace and WR has never been a premiere position in Andy'a offense. IMO, we ideally get a 2nd for Alex, get a CB like Shaq Griffin (Seattle pick this year) and a new slot receiver like Cooper Kupp, then use the rest on the lines. |
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09-11-2017, 10:07 AM | #48 |
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I don't care if Smith wins the Superbowl with this team. If Reid believes that Mahomes is ready in 2018....then Smith needs to be shown the door.
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09-11-2017, 10:10 AM | #49 |
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Andy is so good schematically, it's tough to spend big money on WRs that are free agents.
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09-11-2017, 10:23 AM | #50 | |
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You may be right - getting another premier WR in here may not be needed. But man, A. Robinson brings an 'all levels' dimension that this team has NEVER had. Well, not since Otis. He can take off downfield, body a guy over the middle or make a quick cut to create room. When healthy, he's a true 'every play' weapon. Perhaps Reid's ability to scheme provides diminishing returns on that kind of weapon. But it was only when he had TO that he was able to get to the Super Bowl. Sometimes there's no trumping talent. |
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09-11-2017, 10:30 AM | #51 | |
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Speaking of Robinson I think Demarcus has a bright future in KC. I wouldn't be upset with jacksonvilles robinson but that money would/could go along way with keeping this core together and or another defensive player |
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09-11-2017, 10:42 AM | #52 |
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Yeah I like Allen Robinson, but looking around the league, especially our game, it shows me that we need to keep Mitch Morse and Bennie Logan. I would also add Dee Ford to that list. OL play is worse than I've ever seen it in this league. It really showed up in the Seahawks/Packers game as well as the Bengals game.
Kareem Hunt was great, but LDT and Morse were straight up killing the Patriots. On one play, Morse obliterated TWO defenders opening up a gaping hole for Hunt. The best thing we can do for Mahomes is keep this OL togethwr with our weapons. I like Conley and Chesson as tall high pointers for Mahomes along with another speed receiver for the slot early in the draft. |
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09-11-2017, 10:47 AM | #53 | |
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I would not want to be Smith walking into Arrowhead on Sunday with that kind of expectations on me. It's going to be fun to watch as I think each week he will gaining confidence. I want to hear "No More Mr. Nice Guy" when the chiefs offense comes on the field.
I will be happy if he scores a TD every quarter and the D or ST gets a TD too. (everyone wants to have fun!) If he can do that and the D can keep scoring under 21 points we have a winning plan. Expecting 4 passing TD's every Sunday? Not going to happen, but if Alex walks the team into the red zone and gets it in the end zone 4 times each game, either by land, sea, or air, then he will have done his job. Mahomes ll will learn a lot sitting back and watching Alex11 every Sunday and mastering his own skills during the week. I bet that if and when Alex11 does leave that Mahomes ll will grateful for the lessons learned from Smith, and vice-versa. Quote:
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09-11-2017, 10:47 AM | #54 |
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He'll be outpriced and with Peters coming up soon, they can't sink that much into the CB spot, but if you could put Trumaine Johnson accross from Peters, I'd much rather spend that money there than on a WR.
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09-11-2017, 11:29 AM | #55 |
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Dude, that's not happening. Johnson is going to get $13+ million per. The Chiefs can't have $26 million or more wrapped up in two CB's, not to mention, Eric Berry's $13 million dollar deal.
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09-11-2017, 11:29 AM | #56 | |
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Just pointing out that I'd rather spend the money on a corner or pass rusher |
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09-11-2017, 11:30 AM | #57 |
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In terms of receivers, Robinson made a huge leap from Year 1 to Year 2, at least in the preseason.
But outside Ty Hill, the receivers with the most upside, at least from what I've seen, are Marcus Kemp and Jehu Chesson. If either of those guys make the leap, this receiving corp goes from slightly above average to downright scary. |
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09-11-2017, 11:31 AM | #58 | |
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I can't see the Chiefs signing a free agent OLBer to a huge contract. Those rarely, if ever, pan out. FWIW, Johnson was lights out yesterday in his first game under Wade. The Rams didn't even have Aaron Donald out there, which means the Rams defense could be scary good. |
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09-11-2017, 11:32 AM | #59 | |
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But I'm not sure that's really needed anyway. 3 or 4 really good players |
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09-11-2017, 11:33 AM | #60 | |
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