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View Poll Results: Who wins the back up quarterback 2017?
Tyler Bray 53 37.06%
Patrick Mahomes II 90 62.94%
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:10 PM  
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Tyler Bray vs Patrick Mahomes II competition for backup
This should be a simple poll. Who do you all think will win the backup job to Alex Smith during training camp and preseason competition? Meaning the one that gets to suit up on game days to trust when Alex Smith gets KO~ed out of a game.

Andy Reid said this is a competition so let them duel it out.

Tyler Bray 5th year man being a back up to a backup gives him the edge knowing the system and being around the guys and coaching. He is currently the #2 quarterback.

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Patrick Mahomes II the #10 pick in the first round after trading up 17 spots and has a lot to learn but has desire to be the starting quarterback sooner than later.


This isn't about Alex Smith but who would you trust to go in a game if heaven forbid something happens to our starting quarterback to keep us alive for the playoffs?
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:46 AM   #61
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Oh, and I hope Bray does well.

So we can trade his ass....
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:48 AM   #62
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I agree with detox that if Mahomes just comes out and displays that he's the best guy, play him. I'd imagine Reid would do that, if it were the case.

I'd do my best to prop Bray up for sure
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:48 AM   #63
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Other than being a load swallowing Homer. WTF has anyone ever seen that would warrant Bray be qualified to be a #2 backup?

I get some have to beat off to the thought of something scrub making some noise.

If mahomes can't beat out this ballsack then we're ****ed...
The biggest issue i saw with Bray was his piss ass pocket awareness and poor ball security. He hangs out in the pocket with the ball dangling down by his thigh. He's a strip sack waiting to happen. We'll see if he's improved those things.

Oh, and he's shaping up to be a broke dick. He barely plays and get injured seemingly every season for one reason or another.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:48 AM   #64
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Oh, and I hope Bray does well.

So we can trade his ass....
Who is going be backup to PMII next year?

Do we draft his backup or FA vet on the cheap?
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:52 AM   #65
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I voted Mahomes, but I kind of hope Bray wins it. I want Mahomes to sit and watch and learn and absorb all he can this year with no pressure of winning games on him.

That said, to think a guy they've kept around for years without a single drop out of the spigot is going to suddenly "get it" might be a little too hopeful.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:11 PM   #66
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Other than being a load swallowing Homer. WTF has anyone ever seen that would warrant Bray be qualified to be a #2 backup?

I get some have to beat off to the thought of something scrub making some noise, but dayum this is sad...

If mahomes can't beat out this ballsack then we're ****ed...
That was exactly my point, somehow I was mistaken for saying it was Brays job hahaha no chance in hell
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:13 PM   #67
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Who is going be backup to PMII next year?

Do we draft his backup or FA vet on the cheap?
Shrug.

Bray's contract is up after this season. It's kind of hard to see the Chiefs offering him a 2nd contract extension. I think the guy will be gone regardless.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:40 PM   #68
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Shrug.

Bray's contract is up after this season. It's kind of hard to see the Chiefs offering him a 2nd contract extension. I think the guy will be gone regardless.
Well in this case to me it's kind of pointless that Patrick Mahomes II isn't getting all the #2 reps in practice even though I get the whole competition and Bray is the incumbent bla bla but Patrick is our future mostly starting next year unless he makes opportunity for this year but his progression would greatly improve if he was getting the reps necessary to do so. Why are we wasting time with Bray?


I can almost seeing Chiefs hang on to Alex Smith 18 and make it a competition for the starting job and the loser (Alex Smith) would be back up. An expensive back up but Alex Smith would have to start all over with a new team and new coach and have to prove himself all over again.

I really don't know but Bray needs to really have a good showing or he will be out of the NFL because no one is going give him much of a shot after this if he doesn't. He can be a career backup but that seems to be his ceiling. Patrick has higher ambitions and it shows.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:49 PM   #69
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If PMII isn't the backup right out of TC, it won't bother me that much. If he isn't our starting QB in 2018, ima be pissed.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:51 PM   #70
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Other than being a load swallowing Homer. WTF has anyone ever seen that would warrant Bray be qualified to be a #2 backup?

I get some have to beat off to the thought of something scrub making some noise, but dayum this is sad...

If mahomes can't beat out this ballsack then we're ****ed...
Other than the fact they keep paying him and letting go other draft picks?

Not a thing. Including no signs of life in limited pre-season action.
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Old 07-25-2017, 06:59 PM   #71
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Mahomes should be the backup so he can really develop in practice by taking reps on the scout team. The best way for Mahomes to learn is to actually play and go through his development in real time, then repeat it every day. He isn't going to learn anything standing at practice and watching everyone else.

We should also want Mahomes to be the backup because of what it means to Alex. I want Alex to know his job is on the line at all times and that he needs to play well consistently if he wants to keep the starting role.

Does anyone really think Alex would feel the slightest bit of pressure to perform if Bray is the backup?
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:02 PM   #72
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I believe it's the 3rd string QB who runs the scout team and has to learn all the various plays that the opponents run. Mahomes should stay 3rd string all year so that he can take the scout team reps. That will help Mahomes the most, I think.
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:33 PM   #73
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Other than being a load swallowing Homer. WTF has anyone ever seen that would warrant Bray be qualified to be a #2 backup?

I get some have to beat off to the thought of something scrub making some noise, but dayum this is sad...

If mahomes can't beat out this ballsack then we're ****ed...
That word allows for various reasoning. The main one is that the team wishes to basically red shirt Mahomes.
I will take it a little further though just or discussion type purposes.
Foles didn't look that much better than Bray did last preseason. Bray has several more years in the system, which is known to take years to learn, than Mahomes.
Hopefully Mahomes has a much greater learning curve allowing him to accomplish exponentially more in one year.
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:51 PM   #74
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Thought process shouldn't be about whether Bray is qualified to be a #2. It's about where do the Chiefs put Mahomes that benefits him the most? If Bray really still sucks then maybe the Chiefs should go out and sign a veteran to be their #2.
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Since Reid has been in KC he has been very conservative in bringing young QBs along, so I'll say Bray.
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