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tooge · 11-28-2017, 04:17 PM

In the midst of sexual assault allegations embroiling the nation from Hollywood to Capitol Hill, more than 180 women have just come forward with allegations of being sexually assaulted at Massage Envy spas, according to a report published by BuzzFeed News this week.
We’re in the midst of a much-needed sea change around sexual assault. Since news of Harvey Weinstein’s alleged predatory behavior, women across industries have been coming forward with stories of harassment and assault — taking down powerful men and powerful companies in the process. The latest entity to be accused is Massage Envy, a large spa franchise with nearly 1,200 locations across the country.
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According to the BuzzFeed News report, over 180 women have “filed sexual assault lawsuits, police reports, and state board complaints against Massage Envy spas, their employees, and the national company.”
The reports are shocking, so consider this a trigger warning.
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Women have reported being groped and digitally penetrated. One woman reported that her therapist inserted his entire fist into her vagina before ejaculating on to her face. Another pregnant woman reported opening her eyes to see her therapist sucking on her nipple. Over 100 women reported having their breasts or genitals groped.
The most disturbing part, like many stories of sexual assault that have come to light over the past several weeks, is the swiftness with which Massage Envy reportedly tried to sweep the reports under the rug.
After calling the spa to report an assault in which her massage therapist, James Dieter (who has since pled guilty to assaulting nine women), groped her and rubbed his erect penis on her, Susan Ingram says a manager refused to interrupt Deiter’s massage session. “I said to her, ‘Nicole, he stuck his fingers in my vagina less than an hour ago,’” Ingram said in court, according to BuzzFeed.
Before Ingram’s phone call, Massage Envy received two similar accusations against Deiter and did nothing about them. Why? According to the report, the spa had decided that the women’s allegations “weren’t credible” because they were made over the phone — all three women declined to return to the scene of the alleged crimes to “discuss the events in person.” “I was following the policy of Massage Envy and therefore I thought it was appropriate,” the owner said according to BuzzFeed.
Massage Envy does not require any of its locations to take steps to prevent or investigate sexual assault (except in a few states where local laws require it by law). Even if a client calls to report a rape, Massage Envy is not required to contact law enforcement. Instead, franchise owners are given vague instructions to conduct their own investigation. But that is often designed to protect the company — not the victim — said former Massage Envy clinic manager Kate Hardy. “It’s centered around defusing the situation so the client doesn’t call the police. You don’t want cop cars showing up at your location the next day,” she told BuzzFeed.
Meanwhile, therapists accused of sexual misconduct are remaining at Massage Envy or being quietly fired without being reported to professional regulatory boards, which means they can easily go on to another spa with a sparkling clean record.
In response to the more than 180 allegations of sexual assault by employees of Massage Envy, the company says it’s not liable — the franchise owners are. But that will be for the judge to determine. Allure reached out to Massage Envy for further comment via email and a spokesperson sent us the following response:
"Each of these incidents is heartbreaking for us and for the franchisees that operate Massage Envy locations, and we will never stop looking for ways to help our franchisees provide a safe environment at Massage Envy franchise locations. The article references 180 reported incidents. These occurred over a span of 15 plus years and 125 million massages. But, we believe that even ONE incident is too many, so we are constantly listening, learning, and evaluating how we can continue to strengthen our policies with respect to handling of these issues.”
The unfortunate reality, is that this makes getting a massage — something that’s supposed to be relaxing — feel a lot more foreboding. Since you can’t always trust the spa to do the right thing, choose a massage therapist who has extensive online reviews or comes recommended by a friend. If something feels off, report it to law enforcement, state regulatory boards, and the spa immediately.

I'm probably wrong for laughing, but getting a massage and "waking up" to having your nipple sucked, or getting fisted and then having someone jack off on your face? really? I mean come on man!

tooge · 11-28-2017, 04:19 PM

Ladies, just a quick public service announcement. Men are pigs. Don't get a massage from a man, unless the idea of him getting aroused is cool with you.

BucEyedPea · 11-28-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Ladies, just a quick public service announcement. Men are pigs. Don't get a massage from a man, unless the idea of him getting aroused is cool with you.

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.

I have to wonder if such women think getting your hips and butt muscles included in a massage means they consider it misconduct.

Honestly, I think this is going to boomerang on women. I agree, though, that men are pigs...well I prefer animals.

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Women have reported being groped and digitally penetrated. One woman reported that her therapist inserted his entire fist into her vagina before ejaculating on to her face. Another pregnant woman reported opening her eyes to see her therapist sucking on her nipple. Over 100 women reported having their breasts or genitals groped.

Seriously, I find these few examples here hard to believe—especially the fist in the vagina. That would be felt pretty easily before it got to insertion, so she had to let it happen. Same with the nipple incident or getting ejaculated on. Not saying it never happened but it doesn't take long to figure out something is being done wrong.

seclark · 11-28-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.

love ya buc

BucEyedPea · 11-28-2017, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark

love ya buc

Sounds like some pussies!

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-28-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I have to wonder if such women think getting your hips and butt muscles included in a massage means they consider it misconduct.

Honestly, I think this is going to boomerang on women. I agree, though, that men are pigs...well I prefer animals.

Seriously, I find these few examples here hard to believe—especially the fist in the vagina. That would be felt pretty easily before it got to insertion, so she had to let it happen. Same with the nipple incident or getting ejaculated on. Not saying it never happened but it doesn't take long to figure out something is being done wrong.

I have the weirdest boner right now

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kstater · 11-28-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.
.

Yeah they probably went straight for the ball gag with you.

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BucEyedPea · 11-28-2017, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Yeah they probably went straight for the ball gag with you.

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Nope. You're just a hater.

stumppy · 11-28-2017, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.

.

Sometimes there's just not enough money.

BlackHelicopters · 11-28-2017, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

Sometimes there's just not enough money.

Everyone has a price. It’s simply a matter of negotiation.

cosmo20002 · 11-28-2017, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.

Maybe because you're repulsive? Just a guess.

tooge · 11-29-2017, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I've been getting massages for 20 years—mostly from men and NEVER had a problem with this.

I have to wonder if such women think getting your hips and butt muscles included in a massage means they consider it misconduct.

Honestly, I think this is going to boomerang on women. I agree, though, that men are pigs...well I prefer animals.

Seriously, I find these few examples here hard to believe—especially the fist in the vagina. That would be felt pretty easily before it got to insertion, so she had to let it happen. Same with the nipple incident or getting ejaculated on. Not saying it never happened but it doesn't take long to figure out something is being done wrong.

Maybe you've been fisted but couldn't feel it?

AssEaterChief · 11-28-2017, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

Ladies, just a quick public service announcement. Men are pigs. Don't get a massage from a man, unless the idea of him getting aroused is cool with you.

Don't be so judgmental….maybe someone on the board does this for a living

tooge · 11-29-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

Don't be so judgmental….maybe someone on the board does this for a living

If it's you, you might want to change your name. LOL

**ptlyon** · 11-29-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

If it's you, you might want to change your name. LOL

That costs extra

11-28-2017, 04:17 PM	Topic Starter
tooge MVP tooge's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO	Spa chain hiding sexual allegations In the midst of sexual assault allegations embroiling the nation from Hollywood to Capitol Hill, more than 180 women have just come forward with allegations of being sexually assaulted at Massage Envy spas, according to a report published by BuzzFeed News this week. We’re in the midst of a much-needed sea change around sexual assault. Since news of Harvey Weinstein’s alleged predatory behavior, women across industries have been coming forward with stories of harassment and assault — taking down powerful men and powerful companies in the process. The latest entity to be accused is Massage Envy, a large spa franchise with nearly 1,200 locations across the country. YOU MAY ALSO LIKE 5 Women Pose for Striking Pubic Hair Portraits Weekly Horoscope November 27 2017 According to the BuzzFeed News report, over 180 women have “filed sexual assault lawsuits, police reports, and state board complaints against Massage Envy spas, their employees, and the national company.” The reports are shocking, so consider this a trigger warning. TRENDING NOW Olympic Fencer Ibtihaj Muhammad Reveals Her Favorite Liquid Liner Ever Women have reported being groped and digitally penetrated. One woman reported that her therapist inserted his entire fist into her vagina before ejaculating on to her face. Another pregnant woman reported opening her eyes to see her therapist sucking on her nipple. Over 100 women reported having their breasts or genitals groped. The most disturbing part, like many stories of sexual assault that have come to light over the past several weeks, is the swiftness with which Massage Envy reportedly tried to sweep the reports under the rug. After calling the spa to report an assault in which her massage therapist, James Dieter (who has since pled guilty to assaulting nine women), groped her and rubbed his erect penis on her, Susan Ingram says a manager refused to interrupt Deiter’s massage session. “I said to her, ‘Nicole, he stuck his fingers in my vagina less than an hour ago,’” Ingram said in court, according to BuzzFeed. Before Ingram’s phone call, Massage Envy received two similar accusations against Deiter and did nothing about them. Why? According to the report, the spa had decided that the women’s allegations “weren’t credible” because they were made over the phone — all three women declined to return to the scene of the alleged crimes to “discuss the events in person.” “I was following the policy of Massage Envy and therefore I thought it was appropriate,” the owner said according to BuzzFeed. Massage Envy does not require any of its locations to take steps to prevent or investigate sexual assault (except in a few states where local laws require it by law). Even if a client calls to report a rape, Massage Envy is not required to contact law enforcement. Instead, franchise owners are given vague instructions to conduct their own investigation. But that is often designed to protect the company — not the victim — said former Massage Envy clinic manager Kate Hardy. “It’s centered around defusing the situation so the client doesn’t call the police. You don’t want cop cars showing up at your location the next day,” she told BuzzFeed. Meanwhile, therapists accused of sexual misconduct are remaining at Massage Envy or being quietly fired without being reported to professional regulatory boards, which means they can easily go on to another spa with a sparkling clean record. In response to the more than 180 allegations of sexual assault by employees of Massage Envy, the company says it’s not liable — the franchise owners are. But that will be for the judge to determine. Allure reached out to Massage Envy for further comment via email and a spokesperson sent us the following response: "Each of these incidents is heartbreaking for us and for the franchisees that operate Massage Envy locations, and we will never stop looking for ways to help our franchisees provide a safe environment at Massage Envy franchise locations. The article references 180 reported incidents. These occurred over a span of 15 plus years and 125 million massages. But, we believe that even ONE incident is too many, so we are constantly listening, learning, and evaluating how we can continue to strengthen our policies with respect to handling of these issues.” The unfortunate reality, is that this makes getting a massage — something that’s supposed to be relaxing — feel a lot more foreboding. Since you can’t always trust the spa to do the right thing, choose a massage therapist who has extensive online reviews or comes recommended by a friend. If something feels off, report it to law enforcement, state regulatory boards, and the spa immediately. I'm probably wrong for laughing, but getting a massage and "waking up" to having your nipple sucked, or getting fisted and then having someone jack off on your face? really? I mean come on man!
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11-28-2017, 04:19 PM	#2
tooge MVP tooge's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO	Ladies, just a quick public service announcement. Men are pigs. Don't get a massage from a man, unless the idea of him getting aroused is cool with you.
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