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Old 10-16-2019, 08:49 AM   #2
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And people will somehow continue to be shocked when games appear to be “steered”.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:55 AM   #3
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And people will somehow continue to be shocked when games appear to be “steered”.
I know, right???
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:07 AM   #4
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And people will somehow continue to be shocked when games appear to be “steered”.
Why? The league will make money on sports betting regardless of who wins or loses games or who covers the spread and who doesn't. There is absolutely no argument to be made where it is beneficial for the league to steer/rig/influence outcomes of games. Why take the risk of the whole league going down? They make money hand over fist regardless of who wins or loses.

If you want to argue that a rogue official or player is doing something to influence the outcome of a game or games for personal financial gain, I'm willing to listen, but to suggest a league mandated fixing/steering of games is just stupid.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:12 AM   #5
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Why? The league will make money on sports betting regardless of who wins or loses games or who covers the spread and who doesn't. There is absolutely no argument to be made where it is beneficial for the league to steer/rig/influence outcomes of games. Why take the risk of the whole league going down? They make money hand over fist regardless of who wins or loses.

If you want to argue that a rogue official or player is doing something to influence the outcome of a game or games for personal financial gain, I'm willing to listen, but to suggest a league mandated fixing/steering of games is just stupid.
No. You're stupid for thinking that. It happens far too often for there to be anything rogue about it... Plus, nobody needs you to be willing listen to them anyway. You actualy tried to tell me that Sammy Wakins is not injury prone. That right there should tell anyone all they need to know about anything that you have to say.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:20 AM   #6
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No. You're stupid for thinking that. It happens far too often for there to be anything rogue about it... Plus, nobody needs you to be willing listen to them anyway. You actualy tried to tell me that Sammy Wakins is not injury prone. That right there should tell anyone all they need to know about anything that you have to say.
I laid out why it is stupid to believe in a league mandated scheme. If you disagree then state why instead of acting like a douchebag and talking about things not related to the subject. Or you can just go **** yourself. Your choice.
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:19 AM   #7
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Why? The league will make money on sports betting regardless of who wins or loses games or who covers the spread and who doesn't. There is absolutely no argument to be made where it is beneficial for the league to steer/rig/influence outcomes of games. Why take the risk of the whole league going down? They make money hand over fist regardless of who wins or loses.

If you want to argue that a rogue official or player is doing something to influence the outcome of a game or games for personal financial gain, I'm willing to listen, but to suggest a league mandated fixing/steering of games is just stupid.
What about a rogue owner(s)? I only bring it up because of the fact that Jones and Kraft have investments in Draft Kings.

Patriots' Robert Kraft, Cowboys' Jerry Jones retain DraftKings stakes amid shift to sportsbooks

Again,food for discussion because we've all wondered when it comes to the extreme wealthy,when is enough,enough.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:02 AM   #8
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What about a rogue owner(s)? I only bring it up because of the fact that Jones and Kraft have investments in Draft Kings.

Patriots' Robert Kraft, Cowboys' Jerry Jones retain DraftKings stakes amid shift to sportsbooks

Again,food for discussion because we've all wondered when it comes to the extreme wealthy,when is enough,enough.
Interesting to note in the article, that the NFL actually fought the matter all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent betting.

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The NFL has been a staunch opponent of sports betting for decades and remains concerned about its impact on the integrity of the game. The NFL fought New Jersey's efforts to offer Las Vegas-style sports betting all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In May, the Supreme Court ruled against the NFL and other major sports leagues and struck down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992, the federal statute that restricted state-sponsored sports betting to primarily Nevada.

Since the ruling, Delaware, Mississippi and New Jersey have opened sportsbooks.
This is just greedy owners wanting to make more money. They're doing it legally.
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Old 10-16-2019, 12:20 PM   #9
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Interesting to note in the article, that the NFL actually fought the matter all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent betting.
So what you're saying is that Bob "the Handyman" Kraft wants to keep betting illegal? Say it isn't so!!!!
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:18 PM   #10
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Interesting to note in the article, that the NFL actually fought the matter all the way to the Supreme Court to prevent betting.
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So concerned they voted to move a team just minutes from The Vegas Strip.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:18 PM   #11
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No. You're stupid for thinking that. It happens far too often for there to be anything rogue about it... Plus, nobody needs you to be willing listen to them anyway. You actualy tried to tell me that Sammy Wakins is not injury prone. That right there should tell anyone all they need to know about anything that you have to say.
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What about a rogue owner(s)? I only bring it up because of the fact that Jones and Kraft have investments in Draft Kings.

Patriots' Robert Kraft, Cowboys' Jerry Jones retain DraftKings stakes amid shift to sportsbooks

Again,food for discussion because we've all wondered when it comes to the extreme wealthy,when is enough,enough.
Why would a rogue owner rig/influence games for betting purposes? They have too much to lose if they get caught. It makes no sense.
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Old 10-17-2019, 06:31 AM   #12
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Why would a rogue owner rig/influence games for betting purposes? They have too much to lose if they get caught. It makes no sense.
Owners of sports franchises have a history of messing up,take a look at the list below and see how many make sense.

My favorite

Former Philadelphia Eagles owner Leonard Tose had to sell the team in 1985 to pay off more than $25 million in debts to Atlantic City casinos.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:06 PM   #13
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What about a rogue owner(s)? I only bring it up because of the fact that Jones and Kraft have investments in Draft Kings.

Patriots' Robert Kraft, Cowboys' Jerry Jones retain DraftKings stakes amid shift to sportsbooks

Again,food for discussion because we've all wondered when it comes to the extreme wealthy,when is enough,enough.
Heh. I had a friend who worked for an off-shore hedge fund manager. The hedge fund manager had worked himself up from a personal worth of literally $0 to about 30 million (at the time I knew him) over the course of about a decade. He took work with him on every vacation and lived with terrible stress.

At one point, my friend asked the hedge fund manager, "What would you do if you had literally half the money in the world?"

Hedge fund manager response, "Go for the other half."
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