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02-17-2020, 08:57 AM | Topic Starter |
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So what do we get for Jonesy?
Man, the more I look at the cap numbers and our cache of picks as well as the areas in which we need to improve our talent level...the more I just think we kind of HAVE to tag and trade Jones and let Watkins go as well.
I don't think we get a Khalil Mack haul, but I've seen a mid #2 floated as well. I think that's horseshit. What do you think we get in a tag-and-trade scenario for Jones? What (if any) compensation do you think we'd receive for Watkins? |
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02-17-2020, 09:15 AM | #2 |
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Colts need a 3 technique that can pass rush, maybe their first pick in the second, #34.
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02-17-2020, 09:16 AM | #3 |
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02-17-2020, 09:53 AM | #5 |
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I think a relevant comparison is the tag/trade deal we made with Seattle for Frank Clark. He cost us about 240 points in draft capital, using the Rich Hill chart.
If Jones and Clark get a similar valuation, then I think you can somewhat narrow down likely trading partners. Based on need, division, draft capital, and salary cap, these teams make sense to me: Seattle: pick 27 + 2021 third Detroit: pick 32 + 67 Miami: pick 26 + 2021 third or fourth Indy: pick 34 + 75 Of course, there are so many possible scenarios it's almost pointless to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these. Seattle makes the most sense to me, because they're the closest to contending. |
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02-17-2020, 11:14 AM | #6 | |
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1. You send Jones to the NFC, to a team not named the Seahawks, because I don't want to face him in the Super Bowl either. 2. At #35 you can get his replacement or fill in another major need. 3.AT #67 you can get another nice player whether its a WR or offensive linemen. Sign me up |
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Tag cost will be big, and you can't work any of that cap magic by using signing bonuses etc, can't see him just playing a year on the tag, that would suck for the Chiefs.
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The Dolphins makes a ton of sense. |
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02-18-2020, 09:08 PM | #11 |
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Value of the first round pick is the 5th year option, completely agree that’s a requirement if trading Jones is the route we take.
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02-17-2020, 10:02 AM | #12 |
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For Watkins, I just don't see a team giving up draft capital for the right to overpay Sammy for one year. The team trading for him will absorb a $14 million cap hit, which is expensive, but not insane. The question for a Sammy trade is whether or not there's a team out there that would prefer to get him on an expensive one-year deal VS getting him on a cheaper long-term deal. He's an elite WR2 with an injury history that is getting cut unless rescued by a trade. That's going to push his value down.
We're not getting anything substantial in a Sammy Watkins trade. |
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02-20-2020, 01:53 PM | #14 |
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While I tend to agree, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility. Sammy is 26, still in his prime, and you have to realize that AJ Green is going to be asking for 15M a season. I think a WR team like the Packers. They could rent him for a year or get him in and extend him to make the contract more friendly. He's exactly what Rogers needs. but probably a pipe dream.
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02-17-2020, 12:35 PM | #15 |
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I don’t see the Lions wanting to pay money to both Jones and Trey Flowers.
Plus they’re dealing with their own contract issues with Slay. |
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