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06-25-2010, 08:10 PM | #2 |
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Why don't you ask him about his ideas on how to fix it? Express your concerns about how it may look. Maybe something along the lines of you buy the concrete, he supplies the labor to do the whole slab? Not sure what concrete goes for, maybe that's too much on your end.
My guess is since he pointed it out up front, he has good intentions on taking care of you. |
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06-25-2010, 08:27 PM | #3 |
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20x28 with no control joints whatsoever?
Yeah, there's no way to fix that without it looking stupid. I guess a lot depends on the extent of the damage, if the broken piece is still basically in place and just cracked, and isn't going to pose a hazard, there's really not much point in repairing it IMO. But if it's shattered in a bunch of small pieces I'd at least want them to cut and repour the square. I suppose you could stick him and the concrete company to replace the slab if you wanted to push it. If it was me and the damage to the concrete was only cosmetic, I'd probably just ask him to knock some money off the bill and live with it. |
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06-25-2010, 08:32 PM | #4 | |
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Your suggestions are solid and I was planning on doing exactly what you suggest. I was just asking because he didn't offer a solution and wondered if anyone else had run into this kind of issue. |
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06-25-2010, 08:44 PM | #5 | |
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I don't want to be a prick about it but cutting it out and patching will stick out IMO. Not to mention it will never stay in place. I guess if I leave it I'm pretty sure it will bug me to where I'll rip the entire thing out in a few years. My problem is I have no idea what a piece like that costs as far as just materials go so he has me over a barrel. And, replacing that big chunk wasn't in this year's budget. Funny thing is I was home at the time and heard the truck drive yell out the window "You don't want me to drive on that concrete do you?". I hate acting like a mother hen so I went about my own business while they did their work. If I had been watching I'd have easily thrown myself down in front of the tire when I saw it was going to happen. |
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06-25-2010, 09:13 PM | #6 | |
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06-25-2010, 09:21 PM | #7 |
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The contractor should only be responsible for replacing what was run over. What he may initially propose is cutting out the corner a foot beyond the break and doweling the new piece into the existing pavement to keep them level.
If you can't live with the difference in concrete, maybe he could grout the joints on the patch, do some repair on the spalling, and you could just paint the patio for a consistent appearance. |
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06-25-2010, 09:59 PM | #8 |
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Anything you own is going to look worse a year from now than it does today under the general principal of: shit happens. By your own admission your concrete pad already was showing some age. Somethings will age slowly, somethings quickly. I would chalk up the difference in concrete color resulting from his repair as a cost of owning property. I'd tell him that you want to choose between having him repair it, and giving you a discount and tell him to give his estimate for the discount, knowing that you might choose either option. After he gives you the value of the discount, make your choice and move on.
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06-25-2010, 11:04 PM | #9 |
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Sounds like he's one of the quality ones. There are probably several options. Negotiate the best deal for you that doesn't make him too unhappy.
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06-26-2010, 02:46 AM | #10 |
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Yeah the only thing you can do is cut a certain section of it out and repour it. A yard of 3500 concrete is around $70. If it is 4" think you just figure the square feet and divide by 80. If it's 6" divide by 64 and that'll let you know how much concrete you'll need. Problem is getting a ready-mix company to bring out a 1/4 yard might be a bitch and they will charge a short load fee. You'll just have to drill into the existing piece and put rebar in it so there is some stability and conductivity to the existing concrete. It will more than likely crack on the coal joint. That's why you use some sort of expansion joints so a section can easily be taken out and repoured with the concrete only being a different color as the downside.
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06-26-2010, 05:20 AM | #11 |
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I would say that he should repair the piece, then have the drive painted. You'll never see the repair, it'll hide the other flaws and you can chose from endless colors and patterns. There are do it yourself concrete paints or you can hire someone to do the work.
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06-26-2010, 06:14 AM | #12 | |
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The concrete company is responsible for the damage regardless of what your contractor is saying. |
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06-26-2010, 07:49 AM | #13 | |
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06-26-2010, 07:52 AM | #14 | |
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Yeah I hear ya, it was an accident and finding common ground to correct it is the best way to go. |
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06-26-2010, 08:00 AM | #15 |
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I agree as far as painting it, but there are high quality decorative coatings available that could be used to cover up the repair. The only problem is that they are nearly as expensive as replacing the concrete.
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