A little late to the party. This is the flash on my 8.5 i use for 3 gun. It has just an a2 hider. Recoil is not significantly more than a standard carbine length or rifle length system . It is certainly louder. That being said, its a perfect little pistol. This is one of the 500$ palmetto ones. Came as pictured (minus the distressed tan paint, angle grip and sight)
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