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Originally Posted by Blaker32
Baker has more playoff wins than Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Trevor Lawrence, Dainiel Jones, and Geno Smith. He is tied with Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, and Lamar Jackson. I think he is better then average and that’s the cost for better then average. He might even be a top 10 QB after this year. Playing hurt in Cleveland really changed his trajectory.
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Good post. He shouldn't have done it. Cleveland couldn't wait to dump him and pay through the nose for a notably worse QB. They deserve it.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Agreed.
Baker deserves a shitload of credit for getting back on the horse and battling himself back to relevance after the Browns did him dirty.
He is, at worst, an average NFL quarterback and this is what they cost. And unlike most average NFL quarterbacks, there miiiiiiight be a little more upside there into being actually good.
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That's a great point, he deserves some credit.
Russillo had a stat that over some number of years (25 or something) there were precisely 0 1st round QBs that got let go for their second contract won a playoff game until Tannehill. Now Baker has one. So what he's done is pretty substantial.
Plus his age would suggest he has some upside.
People forget what life without Mahomes is like.
The reality is Baker gives you a shot. Not a shot that Mahomes gives you, but a shot. Getting some rook in the bottom half of the first, or giving up a kings ransom and end up with a Fields type, more than likely gives you less of a chance.
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Originally Posted by kccrow
Still better than 2/3's of the QBs in the league.
The question really isn't "Can he go toe-to-toe against Mahomes in the playoffs and win?" because that question has only been answered by one current QB with an all-time great WR corps to help him out.
The question is, "Is he good enough to beat any QB in the top-10 not named Pat Mahomes in the playoffs?" I think he is.
Get the Bucs a good SWR, LG, RB, NB, SS and LB and they are going to be pretty good again. That's not an impossible laundry list.
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Yeah, we've proven that almost nobody can hang with Mahomes. Even with ****edy ****all at WR. He's in the NFC, they need to worry about hanging with the NFC QBs, and hope for the best if they have to face Mahomes.