[PHOG]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

Reid/Dorsey/Veach have done a great job picking players and managing the roster.

But so far, perhaps around 60-70% of Chiefs success during Mahomes era has to do with these 5 individuals and Veach was not the main person responsible for drafting/hiring any of them as GM.

Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Travis Kelce, Tyeek Hill*

* give Veach credit for the Hill trade but that was kind of a no brainer for any half competent GM since Hill wanted to be paid the megabucks. What wasn't a no brainer is what the Chiefs did with the proceeds/cap room of the Hill trade and they did a pretty good job with it. Maybe Chiefs only win 1 out of last 2 SB's with Hill on the team. But the point holds that Hill was a major asset drafted before Veach as GM.

Once Kelce/Chris Jones retire, Veach will have an opportunity to prove himself a bit more. If Mahomes is healthy, realistically even with a bad roster that should equal 8 or 9 wins.

Dorsey is the equivalent of the GM that selected 3 great NBA players but he left the team before the best player selected of the 3 played his first NBA game and he had some not so good role players on the team since they were old and past their prime or never that good. How much Reid and Veach helped with those picks in comparison to other coaches/scouts really only Dorsey knows and whether he would even tell the truth to the media is hard to know. Some people take too much of the credit for themselves while others give too much of the credit to others.

How much Dorsey has helped the Lions is a bit of an unknown as well.

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