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Originally Posted by ThaVirus
There's no reasonable argument for him not being a top 10 QB of all-time, at the very least.
Even ignoring the ridiculous team accolades he's racked up over the years, he was consistently one of the top QBs in the league for 10+ years.
Prior to the start of his elite years, he did just enough to help his team win three Super Bowls, and ever since he started declining a bit over the last couple years, he did just enough to add another Super Bowl win to the resume.
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The REALLY impressive part about Brady to me is that he successfully made the transition from shitty game manager QB in his early years to eye-popping stats QB as soon as he had Gronk/Hernandez as well as Moss and Welker. Like, he didn't just break 4000 once in awhile-- he set single season records with that shit.
His last three championships are a ****ing joke, though. He certainly earned them because he got that far, but two of them were outright ****ing gifts on single plays (Dee Ford and Bevell not giving Lynch the ball). And the Falcons win is absolutely tremendous-- he everything he had to and made no errors. But he was also gifted a ton of shit by the Falcons. And I don't want to hear about how Mahomes shouldn't have a Super Bowl by the same logic. Mahomes forcibly raped the Texans in the span of a single quarter and further stepped on the gas to leave no doubt in anybody's mind that the Chiefs weren't gifted any favors in that playoff win.
All-time great stats (career and single season) as well as 3 legit championships is plenty for me to consider him top 2 all time. He's probably the greatest when you account for those 3 other Super Bowl appearances. But his last three Super Bowls are jokes. They shouldn't be asterisks, but let's say some guy comes along and wins 4 Super Bowls the legit way, has awesome stats both single season and career, and DOESN'T have a notorious reputation for playing for a cheating franchise. I'd probably give that guy the nod as the GOAT.
Championships are a significant part of a player's resume. They're the most important, you could say. But they aren't everything.