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Old 06-30-2018, 02:56 PM   #870
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I dont think customers are sitting at home saying "Man I wish more gay people were in movies." Hollywood may be trying to force that down people's throats (and they are, you can't watch a TV sitcom now without having the alpha male/father in just about every show is a bumbling idiot while they promote homosexuality in front of your kids), but I certainly do not believe people are asking for it.

I really don't think you can put these 2 in the same boat.
I think this is where there's a disconnect. You can't turn somebody gay or straight or bi or any of the other multitude of sexual identities by 'promoting' sexuality in any way on screen. People are what they are. It's that simple, and the agenda, if it has to be said there is one, is to get society to the point where people are okay with that, and can accept each other for who we are. And I think it's less about having more gay people depicted, but making a few of the bigger characters something other than straight. And then not quickly killing them off, which is something that's happened with lesbian characters in particular over and over. And It's about having having characters who don't fit the traditional race/gender/sex binary who can eventualky grow to be more than just identified as 'that gay one'. You know, a competent hero who just happens to like different things than me (straight white dude). Where being different becomes less important than being the hero. That doesn't really happen much now in media and it's NOT in any way representative of the real world, where, 2% of the pop gay or not, a lot of important people are not straight.

I could talk more but I want bbq.

Oh and as a middle aged white guy, I agree with how we're often depicted, but hey, we have almost a century of visual media (ie tv and film) depicting us as the center of the universe and we've basically spent that entire time holding every other race and gender under our bootheel in Hollywood, so I can understand the pushback now. Like it or not, our cultural progenitors were the bad guy. It's come to Jesus time for the powerful racist, misogynistic white Hollywood overlords. Hopefully the scales balance relatively quickly and I don't spend the rest of my life being identified with the bad guys. But at this point, white dudes got zero business playing any victim cards. At all.

As for how men in general and/or bumbling dads are depicted, well...duh. Women are the target market. Of course we're portrayed as morons...
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