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Originally Posted by Buehler445
I don't disagree, but on a broader scale they look a lot alike.
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On a broad scale perhaps but not when you break down the story more. The broader scale is what you use to put into a certain genre which is just a category.
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Futuristic world that is largely flawed - Check
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Some of the comparisons are legit but it is what most dystopian stories have. Or they'd be another genre.
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Female protagonist that has to grow up to overcome ridiculous odds - Check
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Both books were written by women wanting a strong female lead. Actually, until recently having a lead teen female has not been common.
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Leans on pretty much only kids to overthrow the adult system.
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That's why it is categorized as Young Adult fiction. Note also—The Maze Runner and Scorch Trials— another dystopian story.
Has to try and save her family - check
Actually Tris tires to save all humanity more. Her family are part of that, though she had to abandon them to pursue a faction change.
Male sidekick that helps her grow up on her journey - check
Falls in love with sidekick - check
Lots of stories have these. Can't get behind this one as a mere copy.
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Jouney involves overthrowing the government largely by herself and upsetting the entire society - check
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Part of dystopian stories and others too. Again, even Maze Runner and Scorch Trials.
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Deaths of people important to her make her question her path but ultimately steel her nerves.
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Also part of many stories. Conflict creates drama. Though, I don't recall Tris questioning her path due to this.
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Ends up "changing the game" to succeed.
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Don't know yet until the end. (Spoiler:Tris dies in the last book to save humanity.)
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About the time it is starting to get good, it pulls a hunger games trick out of the hat.
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Like what?
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I'll catch the third one when it hits HBO, because it's good enough to put on while I'm working, but groundbreaking, it is not.
Not bashing, JMO.
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Well you are, but you've a right to your opinion. It's not for everyone. Some of what you say about being the same is legit but I think some of it is part of why its the same genre. I refuse to pay for HBO though. Still, Veronica Roth came up with her story before Suzanne Collins. So who is copying who? I say Hunger Games is the copy but it just was made into a movie first. Or are these things common to dystopia stories?