Just figure out a way to get Tyler Biadasz.
 

The single biggest weakness on this team is interior offensive line play.

Let's go get the center that will be Mahomes' best friend for the next ten years and multiple Super Bowl wins.

No, the LB corps isn't in worse shape then the interior offensive line.

No, not the secondary either.

It's the interior line. By far.

Yeah, we're going to need CB's, and maybe a RB, and a WR, and we do need to get better at LB.

None of those spots are why we've lost 4 games this season.

Yeah, I'm good with it.

I'd sign a new LG as well.

We’ve got Rankins.

We’re fine at LG with Rankin, unless his knee is ****ed, but sounds like he’ll be ready for the season.

Good news is that the end of the first/top of the 2nd is the best value area to find interior OL.

Biadasz would be amazing, but Creed Humphrey would be a nice option if we can’t get the Wisconsin kid

Meh.

Dude....you’re ****ing meh.

Rankin just wasn't a dumpster fire like Wylie. I don't think that means we ought to be holding a starting spot for him.

We need the entire inside rebuild. LG-C-RG.

They're collectively awful. Our OT situation is decent.

I think you can plug and play at Guard if you have a quality center. If you don't then you're ****ed

I'm not sure I agree except that you're definitely f***** if your Center blows

I wouldn't throw away Rankin just yet though man. He's a 3rd round pick and was an all-SEC player as a senior. Not like he's complete garbage. He didn't work as a tackle in Houston, we made him a guard and he looked pretty solid. I'm not against bringing in competition but I don't think the Chiefs do what you're asking for unless a guy like Michigan's Ben Bredeson just falls in their laps in round 2.

I think it's reasonable KC brings in a center and I think it's high time LDT gets some serious competition.

Personally, I think taking interior o-lineman in round 1 is a fool's errand. I'm much more receptive to rounds 2 and 3.

OL and RB are greatest needs due to protecting Mahomes at any cost.

If it's through FA, cool but as of now the Chiefs must invest all their resources to keep Patrick healthy

I'm not saying throw him away. I'm just not handing him a starting spot.

I think in this modern NFL, in which the ball typically comes out fast, interior line is going to be a more valued asset than in the past. Fifteen years ago? Yeah, you don't draft an interior lineman in the first. Now? Look at how much poor interior line play screws up our offense. Look at the effect it has on Mahomes. Look at the effect it has on our running game. Damien Wilson looked just fine down the stretch last year; this year he looks like shit. What's different? Interior line play.

Yeah, the collective CP assertion that Rankin is clearly starter material is...odd.

I mean, there's little question we can find these exact posts about Wylie and Reiter from last year. And both of those guys had FAR more exposure last season before they came off the rails this year. And in the process I think Wylie actually looked better last season than Rankin did this season (I'm not sure I understand when Rankin became so good).

I think Rankin's performance in a short span is 1) being overstated a bit and 2) being given too much weight anyway given that he's suffered a significant knee injury and the last G we had who's' knee blew out (Ehinger) never recovered.

No - they can't bank on Rankin, IMO. And Reiter HAS to go. But regarding Biadasz, I can't see anything to call him a better prospect than Bradbury was a year ago. And while Bradbury has gotten better, he was rooouuuuugh over the first half.

So I'm not saying that Biadasz isn't worth keeping an eye on, but I don't think he's a panacea or sure thing in his own right. Honestly, the situation is just so damn bad in there (especially with LDT costing far more than he's worth) that I'm struggling to find a way to resolve it in a single offseason short of some big time luck in the draft.

If the Chiefs could luck into a Larry Warford type of guy in the 3rd round, that would just be aces. Gimme a nice young rookie C, a 2nd round RB (I think that's where the value is in this draft) and Warford 2.0 in the third, then a solid TE2 who can bring our 12 personnel up a notch (as we run that the 4th most in the league), and I'd be juuuuust fine with that draft.

The "WE NEED A CORNER!!!!" crowd would have kittens, but the amount of pressure that would take off Mahomes would just be immense.

All I know is for the first time in my life I would be excited if we drafted some fatties early.

There's alot of value in drafting collegiate tackles that aren't quite good enough to be 1st round guys and stay out on the edge in the NFL in the 2nd round or later. The Packers are a case-in-point on this strategy.

I do agree on interior line play being critical now days, but tackles remain premium because edge rushers are faster than ever.


The center class is extremely weak this year. Last year it was really strong. If I'm KC, I probably target a guy like Glasgow in FA as a Center and draft a Guard prospect day 2.

Travis Frederick and Kevin Zeitler are probably the two best interior OL to come from Wisconsin in the past 10 years. And they took some time to adjust to the NFL. I remember Frederick's 2nd ever game as a starting C. He faced Dontari Poe as a 2nd year pro and got utterly ****ing demolished so bad I thought his prospects for being a starting pro in the league would be significantly delayed.

Bladasz has a lot more polish to transition to the pros than Frederick did, but it will be interesting. Somehow Andy Reid made it so Mitch Morse, a converted OT from college could start day one in the pros, so I'd like to believe given a 1st round talent he could find somebody pretty damn good.

You didn't use the 1st round pick above, I'd be fine with CB, RB, C, TE, whatever in the 5th. Cut Watkins, re-sign Jones and Ogbah then bring in a mid tier FA CB and LB for competition and I'd be down.

This years draft is stacked at WR. If you have some really good players falling to you in the first, maybe a team behind you in the first would give you a 3rd to jump up and grab someone.

You could stay in the first and pick up another pick.

Some of my favorite early clips of Andy were those of him coaching the OL. That dude knows offensive line play, man. He gets right into the nuts and bolts of it; talks mechanics with those guys.

That's why its so crazy to see him go all 'ride or die' with Wylie and Reiter. He KNOWS those guys are bad. He's not Todd Haley out there just yelling "GIVE ME MORE PASS PLAYS" and trying out his Madden Playbook. He actually knows what he's looking at.

I just don't understand it.

I was presuming that the #1 was spent on Biadasz in that scenario; he's your 'young rookie C'.

And I would still JIMP if we got Kenneth Murray in the 1st.

It's just gonna be tough to address that OL absent spending FA money on it and I'm just not sure where to find it if you intend to bring back Jones or extend Mahomes.

I'm guessing Murray gets looked at as a luxury item and they'll just stick with Hitchens for another year while hoping they can get Ragland on a $3.5-$4 million AAV deal for 2 years. Then they go heavy on OL in the draft.

And fellas, our OTs aren't getting younger - that's gonna need significant attention in the near future as well.

We've neglected the fatties for too long. It's time to pay that tab.

All you say there is true DJ, but it kind of just is the way it goes. You're always gonna have holes, have to rely on certain things.

I think the interior OL is definitely a spot you've got to address. Hell, I'm all for drafting a C and siging Scherff to play LG. It's not feasible I'm sure, but I'm tired of seeing the Ol get worked in there and Mahomes bear the brunt of it.

One thing i've kinda been thinking about, Could you flip Sammy to the Cardinals for David Johnson and financially make it work?

Stop trying to pay RBs.

The money isn't there. Johnson will cost roughly $11 million. And if you want to bring in IOL reinforcements, that's where it ALL has to go (unless you're letting Jones walk).

I've pondered him as an alternative to Bell as well but in the end, he's just slightly less expensive but still far TOO expensive.

Just keep Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson and then draft a RB at the end of the 2nd round.

I’m just tired of shit at rb

And at guard

I’ll choose a guard to pay I guess

Fixed

Fixed.

We need to shoot damn near the entire RB room into the sun. If you find yourself pining for Spencer Ware, who's agility and speed are just GONE, because he's capable of picking up a blitz....you're doing something wrong.

The fact that there's even an argument for Spencer Ware says as much as needs be said about the fundamental failures the Chiefs have had in putting together their RB stable.

I don't think anyone was 'pining' for Ware.

I think Andy trusts him to do things like...pick up a blitz.

I don't think he trusts Darwin to do that.

As for the running back room, things would look a lot more sunny if Reiter wasn't getting shoved back three yards every ****ing play.

I'm telling you guys. It's the interior offensive line.

I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the IOL and have been singing the same song for weeks. Again - I was leading the "Draft Garrett Bradbury in the 1st if possible" brigade last season (note - this was not a brigade. It was just me). Turns out Bradbury has been spotty thus far, but the fact remains - our IOL was a real potential problem coming INTO the season.

But the running backs still suck. Just from a pure skill-set standpoint, they're simply not very good. Thompson is the only one with something resembling a standout skill-set.

If the OL were good, we'd have a Derrick Blaylock situation where we see a guy performing well even though we all know he's pretty lousy.

Yes, there are ways to paper over our stable of lousy running-backs in an effort to make them appear less lousy. But they're not good, man.

Though watching Thompson on that early screen did my heart good. It was nice to see a RB outrun a pursuit angle and simply make 10 extra yards through being a skilled player. Damien looked like that guy at moments last year but has shown only the briefest glimpses of that explosion this year.

It would sure be nice to have someone who can take more than he's given again.

Sign me up.

Does Allegretti figure in on the offensive line going forward as a starter? If so, at C or G?

I don't think any of us have any real idea.

he hasn't played enough to tell.

I think only using low picks, reclamation projects and UDFA on the line in the last few years is showing up on the field though.

He has been inactive several games. Doesn't give my a lot of confidence going forward, considering how banged up our line has been.

Every time I do a mock draft, this guy is there at the end of the 1st round. Definitely false hope.

Jake Hansen in 2/3 range. A natural fit on the OL at Center.

Guys I don’t think Biadasz will be there. Travis Swanson and Garrett Bradbury have shown us that some team is going to place an emphasis on them early. It also doesn’t seem like Andy’s style to draft an IOL in the first rd.

Right now it looks like there will be some quality corners available in late rd 1. I think that’s our play with a move up in the 2nd rd for an IOL.

Well, I think Andy's style is to make sure he's got toys to play with on offense.

I think he's well aware, being an old O-Line coach, that this line is ****ing up playtime with those toys.

Obviously, the mock draft simulators don't really know much, and it's too early to really accurately project. (I mostly use them to familiarize myself with players in what I think are need positions.)

BUT, seems like the top corners are all gone and Biadasz is usually there right until the end of the first round.

Look at it like this-would you take Will Shields in the first when it's a huge position of need? Because that's kind of what this kid is, but he's a Center, which in this offense is arguably more important.

Andy Reid has drafted a 26 year old guard in the first round before.

Matt Miller dropped his first mock today. It has the Chiefs getting Kristian Fulton at CB in round 1 and Biadasz in round 2 (drafting from the 28 spot).

That type of outcome would be ideal,
I think. Not sure it will be possible drafting 32nd, though.

That would be insanely good.

I'm in favor of a mauling OL for sure. I tend to think if you give Mahomes a strong OL and weapons like Tyreek/Kelce, he can outscore anyone in a shootout. Give him more than a split second to throw the ball behind a trash OL and he will be a major problem for NFL defenses.

AND it'll make the running game better.

line play is way underrated by fans.

I like OL and CB for our 1st 2 picks and I really don't care which is first. What ever looks like the best value for the spot. I know you should draft BPA but I would also factor in position of need as well.

Is Biadasz a true mauler, though? The only questions I’ve seen about him as a prospect have been in how strong he is at the POA. He’s not a Quentin Nelson-type mauler up there.

And a better running game means easier play action opportunities for Mahomes with Tyreek/Kelce/whoever. It all ties together. Strong OL is never a bad thing. Needs to be a top priority moving forward.

He was not good in the bowl game...he was showing serious poor leverage with the guys Oregon threw at him. He's not a space guy and he's never going to be so he needs to be basically great with power and leverage and well he wasn't.

If that bowl game is the player he is....3rd rounder.

New mock from Matt Miller:

1. Kristian Fulton CB LSU
2. Tyler Biadiasz IOL Wisconsin
3. Markus Bailey LB Purdue

No idea how realistic that is but man that would be best case scenario

I get people being on this Biadiasz stuff but the Chiefs are a smallish fast line that uses a lot of zone concepts, Biadiasz is awful at that.

I agree with this take.

I watched the game looking at Biadasz and came away unimpressed. He didn't look at all strong or get much push. Too many times he would stand up and lean on his guy. He looked really slow and unatheletic.

The announcers talked up Oregon's OL in pregame so I watched them too. I didn't see a whole lot there to get me excited either. The strength of this year's OL draft is at tackle where we don't have a glaring need. I'm guessing if we go IOL this year it will be in lower rounds.

Wonderful, another year of watching trash like Wylie and Reiter on the roster.

Not by this guy.

I’m the guy that constantly pushes back on high running backs.

Hell the Holmes years is all you need to look at. With Baltimore who had a good line he was meh. He got to a great OL and became a monster. Then there was LJ. Who was better until Roaf and Shields left then he was a 3YPC guy.

QB OL Front 7 is the way to win games.

I see where Cesar Ruiz C from Michigan declared for the draft. I like Ruiz and think he's a better fit for KC. He's listed anywhere from early round 2 to round 5 on various draft boards.

Hennessy from Temple did too and he's also a good fit. Athletic and very intelligent player. Reminds a bit of Jason Kelce. Not quite that athleticism, but nobody is as athletic as Kelce at the position. He's close though, and a tad bigger at 6'3" 295. Probably a 3rd rounder.

Let's not forget that Andy took a college LT and put him at C in Morse. Granted, Morse had played some C early in his college career, but Andy's not above a conversion project.

Maybe there's a T in this draft who's getting knocked as 'having short arms' but who was winning on strength/technique in college. That's a guy that Andy'd probably be willing to gamble on.

Not sure who that might be, but Reid's a creative cat who knows how valuable his QB is and will be turning over any rock he can to ensure he's protected.

EDIT: half-assed internet research turns up someone like Kevin Jarvis out of Michigan State. Appears to be pretty strong at the point of attack, should be available in the middle rounds and with a solid combine could test well enough to convince Andy he can play some of the zone concepts we'll utilize. May not be an immediate solution but could be the kind of value play we could try and see if he's able to unseat Reiter over the course of a season.

or maybe Creed Humphrey?

Just heard he's rumored to be going back to school

Remember guys DGAF Chiefs should everything in their power to protect Mahomes through FA and the draft if that means drafting an IOL or RB do it.

Can't say that enough, because FFS it'll extend his career if doesn't have to go GOD.MODE_ or every game.

Humphrey is a borderline late 1 if he comes out...Hennessy is probably the best fit for the scheme.

Chiefs interior line needs to improve.

Nick Allegretti might help with another year.
Martinas Rankin can also improve the interior.

Lots of possible free agents including Stefen Wisniewski.

B.J Finney 28, 6-4, 318,Pittsburgh Steelers. Played at K-State
Connor McGovern 27, 6-4, 306,Denver Broncos. Played at Missouri
Brandon Scherff 28, 6-5, 315,Washington Redskins. Played at Iowa.
Ereck Flowers 26, 6-6, 330, Washington Redskins. Played at U of Miami (FL)
Andrus Peat 26, 6-7, 316, New Orleans Saints. Played at Stanford.
Evan Boehm 27, 6-3, 321, Miami Dolphins. Played at Missouri.
Graham Glasgow 28, 6-6, 310, Detroit Lions, Played at Michigan.
Max Garcia 28, 6-4, 309, Arizona Cardinals. Played at Florida.

I'd be in favor of drafting line but would prefer it not be one of our earliest picks.

Scherff would be amazing but no way the Chiefs can afford him.