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BigRedChief 07-16-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 13628644)
What I'd like to see is a limited series bringing the TNG crew back together. What I think it will be is Picard as superintendent of Starfleet Academy.



It seems like there is something weird about the Star Trek rights, but nobody knows what the terms are. There's no third party though, Viacom owns Paramount, so it's just CBS vs Paramount.

There was a thing that came out that the Enterprise in Discovery had to be at least 25% different from the original for legal reasons, so maybe if it's too similar you have to get approval from the other company? It's weird, because CBS owns the trademarks and controls merchandising, so the rights aren't really split down the middle at all. Maybe the 25% thing was just something they said to get the nerds off their back. After all, they didn't have to change the Vulcan makeup.

so it was legal reasons that they ****ed up the look of Klingons?

Jamie 07-17-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13631461)
so it was legal reasons that they ****ed up the look of Klingons?

Maybe? I'd lean toward 'no' since they didn't have to change the Vulcans, but maybe it's different because the classic Klingon makeup first appeared in TMP.

loochy 07-17-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13628355)
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****, get Jeffrey Combs back and have him do his usual juggling of like 3 or 4 different alien characters at once.

He could be Weyoun #524.
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Mephistopheles Janx 07-18-2018 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13632517)
He could be Weyoun #524.
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The Vorta cloning facility in the Alpha Quadrant was destroyed. The female Changeling made lamented to Garak, after he had killed the final Weyoun, "I wish you hadn't done that. That was Weyoun's last clone."

But Combs would most definitely play some race of Alien. Perhaps we will finally find out what the Breen look like.

BigRedChief 08-04-2018 03:50 PM

Looks like it’s officially official. From Paramounts Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/10730595427...6133001438512/

Discuss Thrower 08-04-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13633454)
The Vorta cloning facility in the Alpha Quadrant was destroyed. The female Changeling made lamented to Garak, after he had killed the final Weyoun, "I wish you hadn't done that. That was Weyoun's last clone."

But Combs would most definitely play some race of Alien. Perhaps we will finally find out what the Breen look like.

Non-canon novel sez that the Breen are actually four races as a retcon to all the conflicting shit about the Confederacy that popped up throughout the canon.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2018 07:50 PM

This is going to be ****ing awesome. So many places they can take this. So many ways to flesh out the character and make him deeper.

I hope we get Worf on the show, too.

The rest of the cast is almost completely melted.

Mephistopheles Janx 08-04-2018 10:56 PM

I wonder, then, if the animated series is going to be based on the Star Trek countdown graphic novel. This would allow Brent Spiner to return despite his having aged out of, physically, playing a near immortal android on screen.

Bowser 08-04-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13659841)
I wonder, then, if the animated series is going to be based on the Star Trek countdown graphic novel. This would allow Brent Spiner to return despite his having aged out of, physically, playing a near immortal android on screen.

Is that the story of Captain Data going after Nero?

Simply Red 08-04-2018 11:12 PM

just watched him in Green Room last night - fun!

Mephistopheles Janx 08-04-2018 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13659847)
Is that the story of Captain Data going after Nero?

Data/B-4... yup.

RealSNR 08-05-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13659635)
This is going to be ****ing awesome. So many places they can take this. So many ways to flesh out the character and make him deeper.

I hope we get Worf on the show, too.

The rest of the cast is almost completely melted.

I know Frakes gave up acting long ago, but he NEEDS to make at least a brief appearance as Captain Riker of the USS Titan.

If humankind was able to doll up a coked-out senior citizen Carrie Fisher for two goddamn Star Wars movies, they can get Frakes to sit in a goddamn chair and talk to people on a ****ing viewscreen.

Hammock Parties 08-05-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13661030)
I know Frakes gave up acting long ago, but he NEEDS to make at least a brief appearance as Captain Riker of the USS Titan.

If humankind was able to doll up a coked-out senior citizen Carrie Fisher for two goddamn Star Wars movies, they can get Frakes to sit in a goddamn chair and talk to people on a ****ing viewscreen.

The guy has morphed into Orson Welles. I'm not sure you can rehabilitate this.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/MP76EG/bon...ews-MP76EG.jpg

Now, Levar Burton on the other hand...

https://gazettereview.com/wp-content...3980092750.jpg

Jamie 09-12-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 13628644)
It seems like there is something weird about the Star Trek rights, but nobody knows what the terms are. There's no third party though, Viacom owns Paramount, so it's just CBS vs Paramount.

There was a thing that came out that the Enterprise in Discovery had to be at least 25% different from the original for legal reasons, so maybe if it's too similar you have to get approval from the other company? It's weird, because CBS owns the trademarks and controls merchandising, so the rights aren't really split down the middle at all. Maybe the 25% thing was just something they said to get the nerds off their back. After all, they didn't have to change the Vulcan makeup.

So I think I understand this now. Old Viacom owned Star Trek. Old Viacom merged with Old CBS to form New CBS. Eventually New CBS spun New Viacom off from itself, but it'a a new company and doesn't include all the pieces Old Viacom brought into the merger. New Viacom gets Paramount, but ownership of Star Trek stays with CBS. Paramount does get the right to continue distributing the ten movies.

Eventually Paramount wants to make new Star Trek movies so they license it from CBS. For some stupid reason this licensing deal includes a provision that what they make has to be 25% different. Then CBS decides they want to have Star Trek TV shows. But instead of producing it themselves, they go back to Paramount to do it for them, under the terms of the original licensing deal. So even though it's for CBS, who own Star Trek, it's produced by Paramount, who have to abide by this reeruned 25% deal.

RealSNR 09-12-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 13726947)
So I think I understand this now. Old Viacom owned Star Trek. Old Viacom merged with Old CBS to form New CBS. Eventually New CBS spun New Viacom off from itself, but it'a a new company and doesn't include all the pieces Old Viacom brought into the merger. New Viacom gets Paramount, but ownership of Star Trek stays with CBS. Paramount does get the right to continue distributing the ten movies.

Eventually Paramount wants to make new Star Trek movies so they license it from CBS. For some stupid reason this licensing deal includes a provision that what they make has to be 25% different. Then CBS decides they want to have Star Trek TV shows. But instead of producing it themselves, they go back to Paramount to do it for them, under the terms of the original licensing deal. So even though it's for CBS, who own Star Trek, it's produced by Paramount, who have to abide by this reeruned 25% deal.

Great, so we can expect the same out of the new Picard show.

That pretty much means Michael Dorn ain't making any guest appearances. You can't give him the Discovery treatment and still maintain that he's the same Klingon.


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