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Frazod 06-21-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 13600802)
That's asking for a total disaster.


Frankly The Orville ticks off all the boxes for me. I don't need a Star Trek show. Tried watching an episode of Discovery on Netflix while in Europe, and it just wasn't good enough to even make an effort to see any more.

I was primed to hate Discovery. Indeed, the first couple of episodes were fairly lame. I couldn't stand what they did to the Klingons. But slowly, much like a parasitic infection, it grew on me. By the end I really enjoyed it.

Beef Supreme 06-21-2018 09:27 AM

Make it so.


Actually I don't care either way. That line just seemed appropriate.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2018 02:10 PM

78

https://i.imgur.com/TqJC0J9.jpg

lawrenceRaider 07-13-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13600865)
I was primed to hate Discovery. Indeed, the first couple of episodes were fairly lame. I couldn't stand what they did to the Klingons. But slowly, much like a parasitic infection, it grew on me. By the end I really enjoyed it.

Perhaps I'll have to give it another try.

Frazod 07-13-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 13627158)
Perhaps I'll have to give it another try.

It's not easy. My best friend was visiting over the weekend and I talked him into giving it a shot. He watched the first episode and no interest in watching further, despite my assurances that it gets better. I hadn't watched the first episode since last fall, and frankly had forgotten how bad it was, so I really couldn't blame him.

Valiant 07-13-2018 02:54 PM

Maybe have him be a villainess Picard. If it is in the discovery reality, go all out and have him be evil captain. Warring on all other ships.

Though, I do think we need to get back to a Star trek of morals, diplomacy and kindness like Mr. Rodgers. Might help raise some nicer people.

Frazod 07-13-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13627170)
It's not easy. My best friend was visiting over the weekend and I talked him into giving it a shot. He watched the first episode and no interest in watching further, despite my assurances that it gets better. I hadn't watched the first episode since last fall, and frankly had forgotten how bad it was, so I really couldn't blame him.

I should add that I also showed him the final two part episode of the fan-made Star Trek Continues, and he loved that. If you haven't seen any of those, you should give them a look.

Hammock Parties 07-13-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13627223)
Maybe have him be a villainess Picard.

he's having a sex change? ROFL

Valiant 07-14-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13627247)
he's having a sex change? ROFL

Damn phone, villainous.

Bowser 07-14-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13627142)

Man, good for him. He's lived a life (and is still living a life) most of us would kill for and seems to be a genuinely great guy. I'll add him to the list of people I want to be in my next life (lives).

Molitoth 07-14-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13627142)

Damn, I hope to look that good at 78... errr umm, 48.

RealSNR 07-14-2018 02:27 PM

Somebody had told me that there's some weird legal thing over ownership of Star Trek property. Something like CBS and Paramount have the intellectual property rights over the names, universe, and the brand, but Viacom still owns the rights to various props, designs, and costumes?

So I guess what it means is that the old makeup and costume designs for the Klingons from the TNG era can not be reproduced in new Star Trek content? That's why the Klingons in Discovery are absolute abortions? And so I think that would also mean they'd have to likewise **** up any Romulans, Cardassians, Bajorans, Andorians, and all the other alien races?

I could have that totally wrong. Maybe I just misunderstood it, or maybe my source was just making shit up. But if it is true, how the hell are they going to expand the TNG universe, which is crucially dependent on those particular alien races?

RealSNR 07-14-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13600701)
This could lead to finally getting the Captain Worf series. Would be great to get to see Chief Engineer Nog.

Paramount declined Dorn's Captain Worf series and instead came up with another goddamn prequel nobody wanted with absolutely zero care for fan service. No, you can't just make the series 100% fan service, but you have to throw a LITTLE bit in there. A guest appearance by one of the actors, perhaps. Kind of like Richard Hatch's appearance as Tom Zarek in the new Battlestar Galactica. There was absolutely none of that shit to be found in Discovery, and that's not working out too well for them, among the other issues the show has.

Getting Dorn back, un****ing the Klingons, and getting a few more oldie favorite actors to come back and be recurring characters would go a long way. There are a bunch of those Star Trek actors from all of the post-TOS shows who are not doing anything important right now. Levar Burton. Nana Visitor. Armin Shimerman. Kate Mulgrew.

****, get Jeffrey Combs back and have him do his usual juggling of like 3 or 4 different alien characters at once.

Yeah, you can't just make the new show all about the old actors and characters, but you can throw them out every once in awhile. TNG had plenty of original series callbacks (at least one per season, I'd say) and that's with the setting taking place at least 100 years after Kirk's Trek.

BigRedChief 07-14-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13628308)
Damn, I hope to look that good at 78... errr umm, 48.

78?48? He looks damn good for 28!

Jamie 07-14-2018 07:29 PM

What I'd like to see is a limited series bringing the TNG crew back together. What I think it will be is Picard as superintendent of Starfleet Academy.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13628348)
Somebody had told me that there's some weird legal thing over ownership of Star Trek property. Something like CBS and Paramount have the intellectual property rights over the names, universe, and the brand, but Viacom still owns the rights to various props, designs, and costumes?

So I guess what it means is that the old makeup and costume designs for the Klingons from the TNG era can not be reproduced in new Star Trek content? That's why the Klingons in Discovery are absolute abortions? And so I think that would also mean they'd have to likewise **** up any Romulans, Cardassians, Bajorans, Andorians, and all the other alien races?

I could have that totally wrong. Maybe I just misunderstood it, or maybe my source was just making shit up. But if it is true, how the hell are they going to expand the TNG universe, which is crucially dependent on those particular alien races?

It seems like there is something weird about the Star Trek rights, but nobody knows what the terms are. There's no third party though, Viacom owns Paramount, so it's just CBS vs Paramount.

There was a thing that came out that the Enterprise in Discovery had to be at least 25% different from the original for legal reasons, so maybe if it's too similar you have to get approval from the other company? It's weird, because CBS owns the trademarks and controls merchandising, so the rights aren't really split down the middle at all. Maybe the 25% thing was just something they said to get the nerds off their back. After all, they didn't have to change the Vulcan makeup.


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