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Buddy Rich 04-19-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16908191)
An often-overlooked but legit great album.

Awesome album

AdolfOliverBush 04-19-2023 11:37 AM

Devin Townsend is another guy who is crazy talented. His music is hit-and-miss with me, but his ability is off the charts.

lawrenceRaider 04-19-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16908407)
Devin Townsend is another guy who is crazy talented. His music is hit-and-miss with me, but his ability is off the charts.

Agreed on that. Some of his music is phenomenal. Other is WTF.

InChiefsHeaven 04-19-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16908151)
You need to give extreme metal more of a chance, man. It might shock you to know that a lot of those growlers and squealers can actually SING. Some of the best hardcore and extreme bands have VERY versatile singers, which creates a sort of tension in the songwriting that can be really emotionally impactful.

Look, I appreciate that. I'm just saying, it's not my jam is all. I want to hear real emotion besides ****ing rage. Rage is good, it has it's place, but only every great once in a while...not every song.

And I know, I'm probably not hearing enough of it I guess.

Seriously, I appreciate the music, but the vocalizing is just awful in my ears is all. The screamiest I ever got was Pantera, and that shit got screamy, but I dunno...in an appropriate way. And was hardly ever unintelligible growling.

htismaqe 04-19-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16908683)
Look, I appreciate that. I'm just saying, it's not my jam is all. I want to hear real emotion besides ****ing rage. Rage is good, it has it's place, but only every great once in a while...not every song.

And I know, I'm probably not hearing enough of it I guess.

Seriously, I appreciate the music, but the vocalizing is just awful in my ears is all. The screamiest I ever got was Pantera, and that shit got screamy, but I dunno...in an appropriate way. And was hardly ever unintelligible growling.

I was much the same way as you even 10 years ago. Then a friend exposed me to some really quality bands. The good ones aren't "all rage". They alternate between heavy and soft, loud and quiet, aggressive and atmospheric. It creates a contrast and tension that isn't found in a lot of other music because the differences are so striking when they go from growing to singing.

Also, the growling isn't unintelligible. In many ways, it's like learning a new language. Once you listen to it enough, you start to understand what they are saying. Also, some of the music is so good that it's worth listening to the growling anyway.

InChiefsHeaven 04-19-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16908164)
Most of the metalheads here know I'm a massive stoner/doom fan.

My absolute favorite bands are Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Dio.

After that, it's stuff like Kyuss/QOTSA, Orange Goblin, Mastodon, The Sword, and High on Fire that gets me going. I love Motorhead. I love Ozzy's solo stuff. I also like a bit of metalcore/deathcore - bands like Phinehas and Impending Doom.

As far as controversial or disputable takes:

Megadeth > Metallica
Sabbath Dio > Sabbath Ozzy

Megadeth was my first thrash metal over Metallica. And over the years, I don't think there should be any dispute that Megadeth is superior to Metallica on just about any level...but I also love me some Metallica.

AdolfOliverBush 04-19-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16908716)
Megadeth was my first thrash metal over Metallica. And over the years, I don't think there should be any dispute that Megadeth is superior to Metallica on just about any level...but I also love me some Metallica.

I think "Rust In Peace" is better than any Metallica album, although neither band is exactly getting better with age. Both are nearly unlistenable at this point, imo.

Imon Yourside 04-19-2023 02:33 PM

I went from Led Zeppelin to buying Master of Puppets the day it came out. Wore out the tape completely. I've pretty much gotten away from the Metal thing these days but I occasionally go back and listen. I'm more into the Kyuss stuff now tho tbh.

Imon Yourside 04-19-2023 02:35 PM

Queensryche I still listen to occasionally and that Raven album is HIGHLY underrated amazing to this day still.

Imon Yourside 04-19-2023 02:39 PM

I'm more into this kind of genre now...

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Imon Yourside 04-19-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16908748)
I think "Rust In Peace" is better than any Metallica album, although neither band is exactly getting better with age. Both are nearly unlistenable at this point, imo.

Peace sells is still my favorite album from those guys.

Chiefnj2 04-19-2023 02:44 PM

In 1988 or 1989 I saw Manowar open up for Motorhead at the Ritz.

I would agree that Manowar was the loudest band I've ever seen. Not the best band by far, but the loudest.

AdolfOliverBush 04-19-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16908852)
In 1988 or 1989 I saw Manowar open up for Motorhead at the Ritz.

I would agree that Manowar was the loudest band I've ever seen. Not the best band by far, but the loudest.

I saw Metallica at Kemper Arena in 1991. We got there way early, so we were sitting out in the parking lot. The drums were being set up, and we knew that because my rearview mirrors were shaking. In the parking lot.

That concert remains the loudest thing I've ever heard. I couldn't hear right for 3 or 4 days after.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metal...o-3d6d9f3.html

InChiefsHeaven 04-19-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16908841)
Peace sells is still my favorite album from those guys.

Yep, front to back it's pretty awesome. That was my first Megadeth album. We had a guitar player back in the day who could thrash and we did a cover of Holy Wars...I ****ing LOVED Rust in Peace.

I checked out of Metallica after the Black Album. Haven't gotten into any of the new album yet.

They're all getting old. The one that kills me the most is Maiden. Holy shit, they've become pretty unlistenable to me, though I didn't hate "The Writing on the Wall" on their latest album.

InChiefsHeaven 04-19-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16908878)
I saw Metallica at Kemper Arena in 1991. We got there way early, so we were sitting out in the parking lot. The drums were being set up, and we knew that because my rearview mirrors were shaking. In the parking lot.

That concert remains the loudest thing I've ever heard. I couldn't hear right for 3 or 4 days after.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metal...o-3d6d9f3.html

Saw that tour in Omaha at the Civic Auditorium...one of my favorite concerts ever.


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