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Holladay 07-15-2021 09:52 PM

Teenager Stories
 
I think this will be interesting. Not your teenage years, but your kids/G-kids.

I thought that if I raised my kids correctly: right/wrong, tenants of honestly, morals et al. I wouldn't have to worry too much. WRONG. My kids are past that now, thank goodness.

Ex. "This driving cars is easy" said 16 yro son, then wrecked two cars. Sneaking stuff out of the basement, Popped for smoking weed...had to bail her out. "Hey Dad a great movie, Woman with the Dragon Tattoo" at aged 13 I had the V chip set at PG 13 but found out it was "Not Rated" therefore by passed the chip. (Throws hands up in disgust and futility)

Glad I don't have youngsters now days: the internet, social media, CRT, college.

All generations have had to deal with this throughout the ages. "Elvis The Pelvis", the Beatles are the Devil, Lizze Borden, the Menendez brothers

Of course I was an Angel, my halo was held up by horns:)

Thoughts? Stories? Don't want this to go to the DC thread.

Why Not? 07-15-2021 09:59 PM

Lol. I like the Lizzie Borden inclusion.

As for me, not quite there. My oldest is 12. I did, however, get my first middle of the night call from the police on him last week. He had spent the night at a buddy's and they had challenged each other to stay up all night. At around 3am, they got bored and tired so they went for a walk. Cop on patrol saw em about 1/4th mile from his friend's house right near Deanna Rose. He didn't get in trouble (by the police, got a nice talking to from me) and they let his friend's mom pick him up. She felt terrible but I wasn't bummed at her at all. Unless you padlock the doors, if they want to go out, I guess they're going out.

Even though he had a couple years head start, I would've easily bet his younger brother would've earned me my first cop call. Oh well, hope that's the only one of those I ever get but I'm not counting on it!

Holladay 07-15-2021 10:01 PM

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My oldest is 12
You are not even started.

Holladay 07-15-2021 10:02 PM

I am not sure which are harder, girls or boys. Both have issues.

Why Not? 07-15-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay (Post 15742682)
You are not even started.

I know it.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-15-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15742680)
Lol. I like the Lizzie Borden inclusion.

As for me, not quite there. My oldest is 12. I did, however, get my first middle of the night call from the police on him last week. He had spent the night at a buddy's and they had challenged each other to stay up all night. At around 3am, they got bored and tired so they went for a walk. Cop on patrol saw em about 1/4th mile from his friend's house right near Deanna Rose. He didn't get in trouble (by the police, got a nice talking to from me) and they let his friend's mom pick him up. She felt terrible but I wasn't bummed at her at all. Unless you padlock the doors, if they want to go out, I guess they're going out.

Even though he had a couple years head start, I would've easily bet his younger brother would've earned me my first cop call. Oh well, hope that's the only one of those I ever get but I'm not counting on it!

Is there a curfew for minors where you live? I'm curious to know under what authority he was able to force them to call a parent and detain them until they arrived.

Holladay 07-15-2021 10:06 PM

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Is there a curfew for minors where you live?
Great question. We live out in the country. I don't think is such a thing.

Why Not? 07-15-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15742688)
Is there a curfew for minors where you live? I'm curious to know under what authority he was able to force them to call a parent and detain them until they arrived.

You know what? That is a good question. I didn't give it much thought and I guess I assumed there is one but I'm not having much luck looking it up. The call came in when we were asleep and my wife answered and told me and I just kinda made sure he was okay and on the way back to his friend's and then went back to sleep. Never gave it much thought again since nothing really happened. I'm going to research this further. Thanks for brining it up

Baby Lee 07-15-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15742688)
Is there a curfew for minors where you live? I'm curious to know under what authority he was able to force them to call a parent and detain them until they arrived.

'Authority' is likely, first off a community where it's a good guess that the parents will be more grateful than hostile, and will exercise authority over their offspring sufficient to keep the minors from making a stink, . . . and likely 'soft' authority where the officer didn't so much detain them forcefully and compel them to call parents, as they persuaded them it's best to stay with the officer and contact the parents for rendez-vous, and finally the implicit final decision that, so long as things went smoothly, the only consequence would be reuniting the minors with the parents, tip of the cap, and have a good evening.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-15-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15742702)
'Authority' is likely, first off a community where it's a good guess that the parents will be more grateful than hostile, and will exercise authority over their offspring sufficient to keep the minors from making a stink, . . . and likely 'soft' authority where the officer didn't so much detain them forcefully and compel them to call parents, as they persuaded them it's best to stay with the officer and contact the parents for rendez-vous, and finally the implicit final decision that, so long as things went smoothly, the only consequence would be reuniting the minors with the parents, tip of the cap, and have a good evening.

I would venture to say that he likely implied they could be in trouble with the police if they didn't call a parent to come pick them up. If there is no curfew and the kids were not committing, or suspected of committing, a crime... then the officer simply used his position to get some kids off the street because he didn't want them there (whatever his internal motivation be it their safety or his thoughts on where kids their age should be at that time of day).

He could have just hung back and watched them and let them have their 3AM stroll while making sure they were safe when they were doing absolutely nothing wrong. Some of my best memories were of late night / early morning strolls through my neighborhood as a kid.

Either way... we are both just guessing as to the exact interaction they had along with the officer's motivation. I just prefer it when officers do things according to law vs their personal beliefs on child rearing and what times of the day are age appropriate to be walking down a sidewalk... so I ask questions like I did.

Why Not? 07-15-2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15742702)
'Authority' is likely, first off a community where it's a good guess that the parents will be more grateful than hostile, and will exercise authority over their offspring sufficient to keep the minors from making a stink, . . . and likely 'soft' authority where the officer didn't so much detain them forcefully and compel them to call parents, as they persuaded them it's best to stay with the officer and contact the parents for rendez-vous, and finally the implicit final decision that, so long as things went smoothly, the only consequence would be reuniting the minors with the parents, tip of the cap, and have a good evening.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up exactly. I am still curious on if there is a curfew ordinance , so I'm gonna look into it, but since my son's "consequence" from me was to write a thank you letter to the officer for helping keep him safe, I was certainly more grateful than hostile.

Why Not? 07-15-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15742706)
I would venture to say that he likely implied they could be in trouble with the police if they didn't call a parent to come pick them up. If there is no curfew and the kids were not committing, or suspected of committing, a crime... then the officer simply used his position to get some kids off the street because he didn't want them there (whatever his internal motivation be it their safety or his thoughts on where kids their age should be at that time of day).

He could have just hung back and watched them and let them have their 3AM stroll while making sure they were safe when they were doing absolutely nothing wrong. Some of my best memories were of late night / early morning strolls through my neighborhood as a kid.

Either way... we are both just guessing as to the exact interaction they had along with the officer's motivation. I just prefer it when officers do things according to law vs their personal beliefs on child rearing and what times of the day are age appropriate to be walking down a sidewalk... so I ask questions like I did.

My best guess would be that they were in really close proximity to Deanna Rose (not sure if you're in the KC area or know what that is, but it's like a kid's zoo/farm center) and he may have initially thought they were up to no good or trying to sneak onto the property. Then he probably just played it out from there.

Buehler445 07-15-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15742702)
'Authority' is likely, first off a community where it's a good guess that the parents will be more grateful than hostile, and will exercise authority over their offspring sufficient to keep the minors from making a stink, . . . and likely 'soft' authority where the officer didn't so much detain them forcefully and compel them to call parents, as they persuaded them it's best to stay with the officer and contact the parents for rendez-vous, and finally the implicit final decision that, so long as things went smoothly, the only consequence would be reuniting the minors with the parents, tip of the cap, and have a good evening.

Good post.

I know in my case, given the description here, I’d have been happy for the call.

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15742708)
Yeah that pretty much sums it up exactly. I am still curious on if there is a curfew ordinance , so I'm gonna look into it, but since my son's "consequence" from me was to write a thank you letter to the officer for helping keep him safe, I was certainly more grateful than hostile.

Right on. That’s good punishment.

I’m here to lock down ideas. My daughter is 7 and periodically pops an attitude so I’m thinking teenage years are going to be not awesome. My son is stubborn as a geriatric mule. I have no idea what to expect from that kid.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-16-2021 12:54 AM

Nothing good happens after midnight. Kids wondering the neighborhood at 3 am is asking for trouble. Cops did the right thing getting them home.

Holladay 07-16-2021 02:34 AM

Still wanna hear some stories:) Prolly most inconvenient, but still pithy.


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