Bond 25: No Time To Die
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daniel Craig returns as James Bond, 007 in… NO TIME TO DIE. Out in the UK on 3 April 2020 and 8 April 2020 in the US. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bond25?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bond25</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NoTimeToDie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NoTimeToDie</a> <a href="https://t.co/qxYEnMhk2s">pic.twitter.com/qxYEnMhk2s</a></p>&mdash; James Bond (@007) <a href="https://twitter.com/007/status/1163843400644403200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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IN for this one. Rami Malek as the bad guy, this has to be good.

Man, that trailer chugged cock. :shake:

EDIT: Referring to the longer one on Youtube.

Didn't realize there even was one. I'll add it.

Okay, not really a trailer. It's production shots, but still, something...

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In

Love me some bond

WTF was that trailer?

Wow, 25!? I quit watching after Octopussy.

LET'S ****ING GO!!!!!!! Inject this into my veins, now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Bond… James Bond” – The first trailer for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NoTimeToDie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NoTimeToDie</a> is here! In cinemas April 2020 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bond25?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bond25</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BondJamesBond?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BondJamesBond</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xo1pSYHgbc">pic.twitter.com/Xo1pSYHgbc</a></p>&mdash; James Bond (@007) <a href="https://twitter.com/007/status/1202217237848952832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I will never NOT get excited for a new Bond movie.

Looks pretty good. Maybe going back to the "Bond is old and busted" well a little too often at this point, but I'm always glad to see what kind of crazy set pieces these guys come up with.

Craig's got a shot at 'best Bond ever' if this one ranks.

I would also like to take this moment to point out 2 things:

A) DB5 with machine gun lights!!!!!!!

B) Lea Seydoux is just cruelly hot. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to speak in her presence.

GOD I love this shit. Can't get enough.

Can't disagree here. Especially with B.

I have to see this.... Daniel Craig is my favorite Bond..

My all time favorite franchise and Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery. Interesting casting Rami Malek as the villain. So strange that he is gonna be awesome. I cant wait to see ir.

I hated Spectre on account of its Austin Powersesque storyline. But I’ve never let a bad Bond film stop me from watching the next one up. I’m interested to see if they can redeem the stupid universe they have created. The trailer at least looks good.

Looks great!

When are they announcing Tom Hardy as the next James Bond? Seems like a no brainer.

Craig has been the best Bond. Casino Royale is a masterpiece and Skyfall was better.

Damn it I'm so in.

I thought Bond was going to be a black transgender this time around?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...151328186.html

The new 007 could be Lashana Lynch

Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.

Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.

They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.

This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).

I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."

Looks solid! Daniel Craig has been an excellent pick for James Bond. Casino Royale and Skyfall were two of the best.

Exactly.

I've warmed to Idris Elba as Bond, even though I kinda don't see the point. I just like the guy. The more I've seen of him, the more I like him. I still wonder if he has the 'suave' gear. He mostly plays 'rugged'. That said, Craig's Bond has kinda taken the franchise in that direction anyway so that stumbling block isn't as significant anymore.

The problem is that Elba has gotta be near 50 years old. And I know Craig is 50 but he's also been doing this for, what, 10+ years? Guy was in his late 30s when he was cast. He took the reigns damn near a full decade younger than Elba would be when Elba took over.

If you're gonna re-boot it with a new actor, you can't do the 'Bond is Old' thing for another 6-8 years.

Hardy presents a similar situation but I think Hardy looks a little younger than Elba. Hiddleston managed to turn into a parody of himself somehow and get knocked out of contention.

Nicholas Hoult ever get any traction in these conversations?

Side note: There's an actor I was thinking of who looks EXACTLY like Tom Hiddleston. His name is JJ Feild and the only reason I know him is because of the AMC Show "Turn: Washington's Spies: - pretty entertaining revolutionary war era show about the Culper ring. Problem is that Feild really is just a poor man's Hiddleston; same issues Hiddleston would present and nowhere near the actor from what I've seen.

But the guy that plays the main protagonist is an actor named Jamie Bell and he's damn good. He'd be the perfect age for Bond when the next movie is being filmed; mid 30s. I think he'd be a great fit.

Man, I don’t know. Hardy is the only here I’d consider but, the age is a factor. I just can’t come up with anyone that excites me, or who’s time for that roll hasn’t all ready passed.

It doesn’t seem like a good fit but, no one (myself included) thought Damon was going to pull off a character like Bourne - Benedict Cumberbatch? I’m trying to envision and only getting half way there. And even if it were a good fit we run into the age issue as he is already in his 40’s, putting him pretty close to that 50 mark by time his first film debuted. I don’t know. Actors from the UK play Americans all the time, perhaps we’ve reached the point where the opposite needs to happen to increase the size of the talent pool.

Bell is interesting. Wish he wasn't 5'7 though.

Don't forget Henry Cavill

Why do we even need another James Bond so soon? Who cares who will be Bond. If we are lucky they aren't even born yet. We have too many of these corny movies.

Cavill isn't bad but damn he is so on the nose.

I really enjoyed Taron Egerton in Kingsman, and think he could fill the shoes as well.

Well shit. Yeah, he was definitely short in Turn, but 5'7" is gonna be tough to camera trick around. Especially with a bunch of large action set pieces.

A 5'7" Bell fighting Dave Bautista would've been pretty laughable.

Craig isn't tall but hes not distractingly short. Bell probably would be at 5'7".

He's so damn wooden, though. His suave comes across as schmaltzy.

Though he was a pretty good villain in M.I.

I guess if he can merge his roles in U.N.C.L.E. and MI, that might work.

Yah I'm old and crotchety and set in my ways. I'm not going to be in to watching Jill Bond. Their making a terrible mistake. :doh!:

Woof.

There was nothing of her albeit limited performance in the trailer that was even remotely close to endearing or engaging.

I'll watch women action movies. I loved Atomic Blonde. I'm stoked about Black Widow. I watched Peppermint recently, and Jennifer Garner is a shit ass actress but the action was believable. I don't hate it and I'll see it, but do it right, and I think there is a less than 0% chance that making James Bond a woman.

I liked the Renner Bourne flick, I'm sure it didn't do well because they didn't go back to that well, but if Bourne doesn't work after what, 3 movies? No ****ing way they can do Bond after all the movies and books and just general pop culture that character has created.

I love everything Elba has done (It should be noted that I won't be seeing the Cats movie...FFS that looks bad). If you haven't checked out Luther, do it. It's just Elba being a fantastic ****ing actor. Obviously the Wire too, if you haven't (which would be a crime). But you're right. He's too old. Unfortunately.

I can't be a bigger fan of Elba.

I searched her name and the first headline to pop us was something like "Lashana Lynch steals the show in the new Bond trailer...."

Uh....what?

That other chick doing a badass kickflip thing and then Bond doing a doughnut while blasting machine guns out of the front of a DB5 stole the damn show. Oh, and Lea's back!

The shit people will try to force is just mind-numbing. OH HAI GUYS! SHE SAID SHE'D SHOOT BOND IN THE KNEE!! TIME TO MAKE 007 A BLACK WOMAN!!!!

Like I said, she wasn't even the most intriguing WOMAN in the trailer.

Just ridiculous.

If we're going American, I kinda think Bradley Cooper could do it.

I’d say Idris is nothing if not suave, but maybe I’m just fooled by his good looks.

Daniel Craig is short af, too, by the way. I believe I read he’s 5’9”. Think Robert Downey Jr and Jeremy Renner are also 5’9”. Tom Cruise is like 5’7”.. I don’t think that dude’s height would be too much of an issue.

Also, I’m just gonna go ahead and say it: I enjoyed Quantum of Solace. It got ****ed over by the writer’s strike.

Yeah, I defend Quantum as well.

I don't think Craig's done a 'bad' Bond or anything approaching one. Spectre was a bit hokey but I think that was the point after the series had gotten as heavy as it had. I actually liked the universe it created and see potential there.

Quantum is held back a bit by lower stakes than we often see in a Bond movie and a sub-standard Bond sidekick, IMO.

But Gemma Arterton pulls of redhead damn nicely...

Delayed by 007 months to Thanksgiving.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MGM, Universal and Bond producers, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, announced today that after careful consideration and thorough evaluation of the global theatrical marketplace, the release of NO TIME TO DIE will be postponed until November 2020. <a href="https://t.co/a9h1RP5OKd">pic.twitter.com/a9h1RP5OKd</a></p>&mdash; James Bond (@007) <a href="https://twitter.com/007/status/1235248760260874241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No Time to Die, the latest James Bond film, delayed until November in response to coronavirus

Well that’s just dumb, we’ll all be dead by then and it won’t make any money.

What’s crazy is the marketing campaign was in full swing and they already released the Billie Ellish theme song.

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Oh yea, Craig is hosting SNL this weekend too.

He gets to promote a movie that’s 7 months out.

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Wood

That looks ****ing beautiful. Christ. Even the ship firing missiles looked amazing. Every shot looks like it should be a picture hanging on the wall.

Definitely toned down the black chick one-upping Craig. That helps me anyway.

I just realized a few days ago that I never watched it, oddly enough. So I watched it on Netflix and I loved it. Wall to wall kick ass action. The lulls were perfectly placed. Very enjoyable.

It was way too twitchy. The endless quick cuts between camera angles was annoying as hell. It's like it was edited by a crackhead trapped in a Starbucks.

I was into it. I may have been mildly annoyed and craving a movie just like that. I remember thinking while watching it that I wished all of the Bond movies were like that, and how cheesy the long drawn out villain soliloquies were.

I might risk COVID to go see this after that trailer.

If I was mildly annoyed and watched that twitchy ****er it would have just made me severely annoyed.

I seriously found the way it was shot to be so offputting that I basically don't remember anything else about it. Can't remember who the villain was, what he was trying to destroy, who the girl was, anything.

Daniel Craig is gone after this movie, wonder who will replace him?!

Not only was I (I think) mildly annoyed going into it but I did not recall the events of Casino Royale at all. I just went in pretty cold and enjoyed the harsher Bond that was willing to kill people for no real reason.
I remember thinking, "Yeah. **** that guy. **** that guy too, kill him." Very enjoyable.

Whomever it is they have big shoes to fill.. Graig is an excellent Bond.. By far my favorite...

Have not read the posts but obviously, 009 is the next "James Bond" count on it! Daniel Craig is sooo wanting to move away from the James Bond role.

I loved Casino Royale. I've never been much of a Bond fan, but that movie is brilliant. So was Skyfall.

I never saw the last one because I heard it sucked. Seems like the Craig Bond movies are the opposite of the Star Trek movies; the odd numbered ones are good and the even numbered ones suck.

Supposedly the black chick.

Damn

I have seen every Bond movie from day one. Wouldn't miss one.

I worked as a CI in the DIA for over 20 years. I was involved in operations of one kind or another all over the world. As much as I love the "thought" of James Bond - it's nonsense (and we all know it). But I have to be completely forthcoming here....There WERE times when I was in a situation and it "felt" like a 3 minute Bond movie. :thumb:


And Damn! I would give my left nut to own that Aston-Martin!! I was on leave from the Army back in 1967-68?? and as I was driving to the store for my folks - there in the parking lot was an exhibition of the ORIGINAL Bond Aston Martin. Obviously, I checked it out. Had all the props installed on it - and it was nothing short of cool......

Sean Connery will always be Bond in my mind - but damn if Craig doesn't do a fine job as well! He will be next to impossible to replace..

Probably buried in this thread somewhere, but I think she replaces him before the movie. He's out, she's the new 007.

Which does not necessarily mean she's 007 after...

I really don’t think that would go over well. Some characters just aren’t meant to be gender switched. They just wouldn’t be the same character.

It's been pushed again, this time to April 2, 2021

Saw that.

Good lord, Hollywood is gonna kill off theaters. Maybe they want to? But I keep seeing conflicting reports a hour how well stuff like Mulan is performing on VOD....

Serious rumors out there right now that MGM is looking to sell this to Apple TV or Netflix.

I guess they money offers are too good for MGM to pass up?

https://www.imore.com/apple-frontrun...ing-deal-swirl

Apple may be a frontrunner in a new bidding war to land No Time to Die for its Apple TV+ streaming platform in what could be one of the biggest streaming deals ever.

First reported by Binged, there are rumors swirling that No Time to Die, the 25th James Bond title starring Daniel Craig, has been offered to streaming platforms for "insane amounts of money".

No Time To Die's box office release was delayed until Easter 2021 as the global pandemic continues to hamper the operation of theaters worldwide. According to Binged, MGM "is under tremendous pressure to sell the film to the highest bidder" with no sign of the current situation coming to an end anytime soon.

A source has separately confirmed to iMore that MGM has indeed offered the film to streaming platforms and that Apple is understood to be a frontrunner in the bidding war, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.


As Binged notes, No Time to Die is one of the most highly anticipated Bond films ever, as it's 25th anniversary of the franchise and the fact that this will be Daniel Craig's last outing as the James Bond.

Apple has already signed a deal with No Time to Die's director Cary Fukunaga for the upcoming Apple TV+ show Masters of Air. Fukunaga will direct the shows first three episodes and join the show's production team.

There is no clear indication of how much the deal could be worth, or whether it might include rights to previous Bond films, however, Binged reports that top streamers are "offering monstrous sums of money."

Acquiring the broadcast rights to a Bond movie is exactly what Apple TV needs to get eyeballs on their streamer but IMO, they need to substantially beef up their catalog before airing because their offerings are weak, especially when compared to Disney+, Hulu, Amazon and of course, Netflix.

In the end, it's all about a consistent revenue stream for Apple, most of which will come from advertising but a consistent revenue stream, nonetheless.

MGM has been a disaster for decades and they've repeatedly flirted with bankruptcy.

I don't think it would take much of an offer for the Broccoli's to accept a licensing deal with a streamer, probably something like at least half the production costs (approximately $125 million) and a 65/35 revenue split in favor of the streamer until all costs are recouped.

Otherwise, they'll most likely need to sit on the film until at least 2022 and even then, there's no guarantee they'll do anything other than break even at best.

On top of that, they'd need to spend another $100 million in worldwide marketing for a film that by that time, is 4 years old.

LMAO

So, MGM's asking price for Bond was $600 million???!!!!

LMAO

There's no way Apple or Netflix would pay that kind of money at this point in time.

MGM/Broccoli's are morons.

Looks that way. From a Variety article.

James Bond Film ‘No Time to Die’ Explored $600 Million Sale

Apple, Netflix and other streaming services explored the possibility of acquiring “No Time to Die,” the upcoming James Bond movie that was originally slated to debut last April. The film’s release has been postponed multiple times, with the Daniel Craig vehicle moving back to November before being pushed into 2021 as the number of coronavirus cases kept growing.

MGM, the studio behind the film, reportedly lost between $30 million to $50 million due to the delays, insiders said. Bloomberg first reported the discussions, which have been the topic du jour in Hollywood this week. Other studios, such as Paramount and Sony, have raked in tens of millions by selling movies like “Greyhound,” “Coming 2 America” and “Without Remorse” to streaming services while the exhibition sector continues to struggle during the pandemic.

I got a new I-phone and they have me a year of Apple TV. Tried to use the app and you can’t just easily broadcast to your TV. I don’t like watching movies and TV shows on a laptop or a phone.

But, I guess if there was something I really wanted to see, I’d figure it out.

There's an Apple TV app for Roku, Samsung, LG and just about every other Smart TV and streaming device.

Asking $600 million is literally a joke.

Instead, it appears that this will sit on the shelf until 2022 at the earliest while MGM will need to spend another $50-$100 million worldwide in marketing costs, which is extremely risky considering that there's no guarantee that audiences will return to movie theaters, or if movie theaters will even be open at that time.

The only word that fits this decision by the Broccoli's and MGM is dumb.

yeah, I figured that. Like I said, no motivation. What’s on there I should see?

Yep. It’s very likely this film moves again.

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Just read it’s most likely getting bumped down the road again from its April spot. Crazy.

The budget to date sits right around $300 million.

Netflix and other streamers offered as much as $425 million but MGM passed.

What a disaster.

Got bumped to Oct 2021 today. A bunch of other stuff got bumped to the fall as well.

I’ll bet Disney will bump Black Widow soon. Disney + perhaps?