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staylor26 09-07-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15152578)
Has anyone done a wellness check on staylor?

I’ve said on multiple occasions that I wasn’t a big fan of the Speaks pick. Sure, I thought he’d make the roster if for no other reason than Clark and Danna are the only DE’s we have under contract for 2021. I definitely thought he’d get a year playing his natural position before they considering moving on, but apparently coming to camp in great shape was’t enough to make up for the bad impression he gave the new staff last year. I’ll eat crow on that, but I never hyped Speaks up to be anything special and am on record saying I thought Jessie Bates should’ve been the pick at the time.

Mecca 09-07-2020 01:41 PM

Speaks didn't even get put on the PS we put a punter on there but not him, that's a pretty serious **** you.

DJ's left nut 09-07-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15152603)
Speaks didn't even get put on the PS we put a punter on there but not him, that's a pretty serious **** you.

I said it at the time they did it - putting him on the IR BEFORE cut day last season made it clear what they thought of him. Wait one more day and he could’ve returned that season from an injury with an 8-12 week recovery time.

They said ‘no thanks...’ and put him on the IR a day sooner and took the possibility of a return off the table. They very clearly had no use for him and it was obvious by that decision last season.

If they thought he had any value at all to this club they’d have left him a window to return in 2019. They didn’t.

Speaks sucks. Speaks has always sucked. Any assertions to the contrary have always been blind homerism.

CasselGotPeedOn 09-07-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15152597)
I’ve said on multiple occasions that I wasn’t a big fan of the Speaks pick. Sure, I thought he’d make the roster if for no other reason than Clark and Danna are the only DE’s we have under contract for 2021. I definitely thought he’d get a year playing his natural position before they considering moving on, but apparently coming to camp in great shape was’t enough to make up for the bad impression he gave the new staff last year. I’ll eat crow on that, but I never hyped Speaks up to be anything special and am on record saying I thought Jessie Bates should’ve been the pick at the time.

I'm just giving you shit. I thought he'd make it too.

Mecca 09-07-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15152611)
I said it at the time they did it - putting him on the IR BEFORE cut day last season made it clear what they thought of him. Wait one more day and he could’ve returned that season from an injury with an 8-12 week recovery time.

They said ‘no thanks...’ and put him on the IR a day sooner and took the possibility of a return off the table. They very clearly had no use for him and it was obvious by that decision last season.

If they thought he had any value at all to this club they’d have left him a window to return in 2019. They didn’t.

Speaks sucks. Speaks has always sucked. Any assertions to the contrary have always been blind homerism.

Also if you want a highly drafted guy that hasn't put it together yet, Taco is far more talented in the comparison.

Pitt Gorilla 09-07-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15152611)
I said it at the time they did it - putting him on the IR BEFORE cut day last season made it clear what they thought of him. Wait one more day and he could’ve returned that season from an injury with an 8-12 week recovery time.

They said ‘no thanks...’ and put him on the IR a day sooner and took the possibility of a return off the table. They very clearly had no use for him and it was obvious by that decision last season.

If they thought he had any value at all to this club they’d have left him a window to return in 2019. They didn’t.

Speaks sucks. Speaks has always sucked. Any assertions to the contrary have always been blind homerism.

And, yet, Veach saw the need to actually trade up for him. Was he really that worried that some other team was targeting him?

RealSNR 09-07-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15152734)
And, yet, Veach saw the need to actually trade up for him. Was he really that worried that some other team was targeting him?

By his words, he thought there was a sharp drop off in pass rush talent, and if the Chiefs wanted to acquire somebody in the draft to help them in that department, it was now or never.

It's clear that he's learned his lesson from the past two drafts he's put together. Not every player will work out, and some of them may fizzle out just as quickly as Speaks did, but I think Veach is confident enough in himself now that if he perceives a particular "need" to fill a hole through the draft, he goes the other way and just trusts his own process in finding solutions elsewhere.

Pitt Gorilla 09-07-2020 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15152745)
By his words, he thought there was a sharp drop off in pass rush talent, and if the Chiefs wanted to acquire somebody in the draft to help them in that department, it was now or never.

It's clear that he's learned his lesson from the past two drafts he's put together. Not every player will work out, and some of them may fizzle out just as quickly as Speaks did, but I think Veach is confident enough in himself now that if he perceives a particular "need" to fill a hole through the draft, he goes the other way and just trusts his own process in finding solutions elsewhere.

Agreed. It just never made sense. To anyone.

Chris Meck 09-07-2020 05:20 PM

I thought he would be an ok player. I thought the pick signaled that a 4-3 was coming the next season.

I was half right.

It's his own fault.

Tribal Warfare 09-07-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15152745)
By his words, he thought there was a sharp drop off in pass rush talent, and if the Chiefs wanted to acquire somebody in the draft to help them in that department, it was now or never.

It's clear that he's learned his lesson from the past two drafts he's put together. Not every player will work out, and some of them may fizzle out just as quickly as Speaks did, but I think Veach is confident enough in himself now that if he perceives a particular "need" to fill a hole through the draft, he goes the other way and just trusts his own process in finding solutions elsewhere.


It should be mentioned that Veach said he wasn't a big " metric fan" and relied more on game film after he drafted Speaks.

Then every draft after that one were full of SPARQ heroes on the defensive side of the ball .



Due to Speaks inability to produce has amended Brett's draft philosophy considering accomplishments and athletic potential.

Rain Man 09-07-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15152746)
Agreed. It just never made sense. To anyone.

In the 2018 official CP mock draft, he went with the last pick of the fourth round. We all knew the story.

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RunKC 10-02-2020 10:03 AM

Tried out for Raiders this week

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today&#39;s tryout/visit list includes ...<br><br>• The Bears working out RB Lamar Miller.<br>• The Broncos hosting DT Timmy Jernigan. <a href="https://t.co/p3TF3JeVHJ">pic.twitter.com/p3TF3JeVHJ</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1311403580687958016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

thabear04 10-02-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15210614)
Tried out for Raiders this week

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today&#39;s tryout/visit list includes ...<br><br>• The Bears working out RB Lamar Miller.<br>• The Broncos hosting DT Timmy Jernigan. <a href="https://t.co/p3TF3JeVHJ">pic.twitter.com/p3TF3JeVHJ</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1311403580687958016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Raiders sign him to the Practice Squad.

In58men 11-03-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15210614)
Tried out for Raiders this week

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today&#39;s tryout/visit list includes ...<br><br>• The Bears working out RB Lamar Miller.<br>• The Broncos hosting DT Timmy Jernigan. <a href="https://t.co/p3TF3JeVHJ">pic.twitter.com/p3TF3JeVHJ</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1311403580687958016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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