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Megatron96 09-23-2020 04:59 PM

Chiefs release updated Depth Chart ahead of MNF 9/28
 
Don't think it's official yet, but it looks like Ward might play:
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/list...-chart-week-3/

-Taken from ChiefsWire

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15188867)
Don't think it's official yet, but it looks like Ward might play:
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/list...-chart-week-3/

-Taken from ChiefsWire

From your link:

Keep in mind that these depth charts are assembled by the team’s PR staff and not the coaching staff. It may not accurately reflect what happens on game day, especially since it’s crafted earlier in the week before the team has practiced or made any significant transactions.

Megatron96 09-23-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15188875)
From your link:

Keep in mind that these depth charts are assembled by the team’s PR staff and not the coaching staff. It may not accurately reflect what happens on game day, especially since it’s crafted earlier in the week before the team has practiced or made any significant transactions.

Yes, which is why I wrote "I don't think this is official yet . . ."

Learn to read.

dlphg9 09-23-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15188922)
Yes, which is why I wrote "I don't think this is official yet . . ."

Learn to read.

Your trying to find hope in a depth chart constructed by the PR staff. The coaching staff probably doesn't know if he's gonna play yet, so I really doubt that the PR staff knows shit.

Megatron96 09-23-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15188939)
Your trying to find hope in a depth chart constructed by the PR staff. The coaching staff probably doesn't know if he's gonna play yet, so I really doubt that the PR staff knows shit.

Eh, probably. I'm really just jonesing really hard for a smoke. Patches and gum only go so far. I need information. About any of them. Would take my mind off the whole "I need to eat a pack of cigarettes right now" thing.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-23-2020 06:13 PM

Clark and Sammy gonna be ready to go, right?

MGRS13 09-23-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15188956)
Clark and Sammy gonna be ready to go, right?

I would think there is zero percent chance Sammy is playing. That was a vicious hit. I doubt he can still be in a room with the lights on.

Wisconsin_Chief 09-23-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 15188966)
I would think there is zero percent chance Sammy is playing. That was a vicious hit. I doubt he can still be in a room with the lights on.

I believe Sammy Tweeted that he was fine and planning to play. We’ll see.

FloridaMan88 09-23-2020 06:51 PM

They haven’t even started practicing for the game yet and no official injury report has been released.

This depth chart means nothing.

Why Not? 09-23-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 15188966)
I would think there is zero percent chance Sammy is playing. That was a vicious hit. I doubt he can still be in a room with the lights on.

I don’t even think he’s in the concussion protocol.

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15188922)
Yes, which is why I wrote "I don't think this is official yet . . ."

Learn to read.

And you can just go **** yourself with your mom's favorite chrome dildo, ****hole.

Megatron96 09-23-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15189030)
They haven’t even started practicing for the game yet and no official injury report has been released.

This depth chart means nothing.

Yeah, someone else reminded me that even though it's Wednesday, they didn't practice because MNF. I got it. I'm putting a new nic patch on right now so I can use my whole brain in about 30 minutes.

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15188948)
Eh, probably. I'm really just jonesing really hard for a smoke. Patches and gum only go so far. I need information. About any of them. Would take my mind off the whole "I need to eat a pack of cigarettes right now" thing.

You should stick to PFF ratings because clearly, that's your level of understanding

Megatron96 09-23-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15189073)
And you can just go **** yourself with your mom's favorite chrome dildo, ****hole.

yada yada yada. When you're sucking my cock you never this sweet. Now shut the **** up.

DaneMcCloud 09-23-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15189077)
yada yada yada. When you're sucking my cock you never this sweet. Now shut the **** up.



Sorry, I don't swing that way but I'm sure your tiny cock will appeal to someone, somewhere, sometime.

Megatron96 09-23-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15189080)
Sorry, I don't swing that way but I'm sure your tiny cock will appeal to someone, somewhere, sometime.

That's it? Shit, I really expect better from you, dwayne. Your game is definitely slipping. you should do something about that.

Red Dawg 09-23-2020 07:20 PM

I read Sammy is fine. He will play.

Red Dawg 09-23-2020 07:35 PM

What about OLB?

htismaqe 09-23-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15189061)
I don’t even think he’s in the concussion protocol.

He's not.

htismaqe 09-23-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15189146)
What about OLB?

Wilson is your Sam and Niemann is your Will.

Willie Lanier 09-23-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15189080)
Sorry, I don't swing that way but I'm sure your tiny cock will appeal to someone, somewhere, sometime.

Well that escalated quickly...

I'm not 100% sure which post to reply to; they're all gold.

BigRedChief 09-23-2020 08:04 PM

Anyway...... it is a PR staff post, not an official coach depth chart

JakeF 09-23-2020 11:34 PM

We need Pennel is the worst way.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-24-2020 12:51 AM

I’ll be shocked if Watkins and Clark aren’t both out there.

Tell me that Pennel will fix the run D. Along with Jones pulling his head out of his ass. I think he usually rises to the occasion in big games.

Simply Red 09-24-2020 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15189500)
I’ll be shocked if Watkins and Clark aren’t both out there.

Tell me that Pennel will fix the run D. Along with Jones pulling his head out of his ass. I think he usually rises to the occasion in big games.

you bet!

Mahomes_Is_God 09-24-2020 01:31 AM

Clark + Pennel + Sammy = some dead ass birds!

Ward playing would be the cherry on top. Also when does Breeland's worthless ass come back?

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2020 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15189519)
Clark + Pennel + Sammy = some dead ass birds!

Ward playing would be the cherry on top. Also when does Breeland's worthless ass come back?

I wonder who Terrell Suggs is rooting for

Mahomes_Is_God 09-24-2020 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15189533)
I wonder who Terrell Suggs is rooting for

Not us.

RealSNR 09-24-2020 05:49 AM

Guys, I think Pennel is treated as too much of a savior around here.

He played like 10 snaps in the Super Bowl. That's it.

He's very nice depth to have, but if he were as amazing as we think he is, he'd probably be starting over Nnadi.

htismaqe 09-24-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15189568)
Guys, I think Pennel is treated as too much of a savior around here.

He played like 10 snaps in the Super Bowl. That's it.

He's very nice depth to have, but if he were as amazing as we think he is, he'd probably be starting over Nnadi.

The big thing that changed with the run defense last year was guys like Chris Jones playing more disciplined and not shooting upfield on every play.

RealSNR 09-24-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15189579)
The big thing that changed with the run defense last year was guys like Chris Jones playing more disciplined and not shooting upfield on every play.

Exactly. Us getting ripped to shreds in the regular season loss to Tennessee coinciding with Reid putting him down as a game inactive have created kind of a ridiculous legend around here.

I'm not going to deny that he's an effective run clogger, but he's playing with us on another dirt cheap ass contract, and I have a feeling it's not because he loves Kansas City THAT much. The way people talk about him, he should be on a multi-year deal with us or somewhere else earning Linval Joseph money (his last extension in Minnesota was 2 years $17 million). Most of all, he should be a freaking STARTER if he's that good.

My guess? He ends up being effective in the DL rotation this Monday. Putting in 10-20 snaps. That would be under 50%. They're quality snaps. He might even make a big play or two. But I don't think he's worthy of being thought of as a cure to any run defense problems we may encounter this year.

wazu 09-24-2020 07:31 AM

Okay that's about enough Pennel bashing! Mods, please lock this thread and move to Romper Room as it is now full of LIES!!!!

htismaqe 09-24-2020 07:35 AM

Nobody is bashing Pennel.

Just tempering expectations.

oldman 09-24-2020 08:39 AM

I don't think anyone is expecting Pennel to save our D, but it does allow for some flexibility . With Saunders on DL, I'd want as many big bodies up front as we can get.

htismaqe 09-24-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15189710)
I don't think anyone is expecting Pennel to save our D, but it does allow for some flexibility . With Saunders on DL, I'd want as many big bodies up front as we can get.

There's definitely some people here that think he's the difference between good run D and bad run D.

old_geezer 09-24-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15189724)
There's definitely some people here that think he's the difference between good run D and bad run D.

I would be one of those people. He's not a superstar but our run defense seems much better when he's in there. Strictly a situational player but a needed one IMO.

BWillie 09-24-2020 09:32 AM

When Pennell came to down last year our defense was automatically better. I don't know how well he will help the run game vs the Ravens since alot of it is Lamar sneaking around but vs teams like Tennessee he makes us so much better.

How as Hamilton looked so far? It's sometimes difficult to see everything that is going on in coverage on TV, but from my short glimpses he hasn't looked great. Maybe I'm wrong.

CaliforniaChief 09-24-2020 10:02 AM

Pennel isn't a savior, but he's an upgrade in the area we were hemorrhaging yards terribly.

I'm glad to have him back, and glad to have a find like Wharton as well.

But Derrick Nnadi is the OG when it comes to run defense.

RealSNR 09-24-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15189793)
When Pennell came to down last year our defense was automatically better. I don't know how well he will help the run game vs the Ravens since alot of it is Lamar sneaking around but vs teams like Tennessee he makes us so much better.

How as Hamilton looked so far? It's sometimes difficult to see everything that is going on in coverage on TV, but from my short glimpses he hasn't looked great. Maybe I'm wrong.

I have nothing against Hamilton, but due to the Breeland suspension and the Ward injury, he's been exposed. He's definitely not a starting CB, but I could see him being quite effective in dime situations.

Sorensen has the same issue now. Because he's playing in most base D sets, he's getting exposed more often on stuff that he looked impressive on late in the year and into the playoffs. But Thornhill has definitely struggled coming back from injury, so he's probably the best we've got to fill that position.

Scorp 09-24-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15189073)
And you can just go **** yourself with your mom's favorite chrome dildo, ****hole.

McDouche doing McDouche things as always. I was really hoping the Virus would wipe your stupid ass. :)

htismaqe 09-24-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 15189854)
Pennel isn't a savior, but he's an upgrade in the area we were hemorrhaging yards terribly.

I'm glad to have him back, and glad to have a find like Wharton as well.

But Derrick Nnadi is the OG when it comes to run defense.

If Chris Jones and the other guys can't play with discipline, it won't matter what Pennel does.

This defense is predicated on everybody doing their jobs and being in the right place at the right time.

Megatron96 09-24-2020 11:39 AM

Well it looks like the PR guys weren't just pulling stuff out of their asses. Looks like Ward will practice this week.

I know this is going to sound crazy, but the PR guys for the Chiefs organization, you know the PR guys that get paid by the Chiefs/Clark Hunt, The department within the company that probably has a budget in the tens of millions of dollars annually, might actually have some inside scoop on team information like who might be available from week to week. Shocker, right?

Megatron96 09-24-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15189929)
If Chris Jones and the other guys can't play with discipline, it won't matter what Pennel does.

This defense is predicated on everybody doing their jobs and being in the right place at the right time.

Let's just see how things go. Jones played pretty well last year in the playoffs just a few months ago. In fact, he made some great plays against the run in both of his playoff appearances. I'm just saying we can give him the benefit of the doubt.

htismaqe 09-24-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15190073)
Let's just see how things go. Jones played pretty well last year in the playoffs just a few months ago. In fact, he made some great plays against the run in both of his playoff appearances. I'm just saying we can give him the benefit of the doubt.

Don't get me wrong, we all know these guys can get it done.

Honestly, they looked like a preseason defense out there the last couple of weeks. They won a Super Bowl and without the benefit of a proper offseason, they've fallen back on some bad habits.

I'm sure they'll be fine. In fact, given the quality of the competition on Monday, I think they'll be extra-focused.

RealSNR 09-24-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15190068)
Well it looks like the PR guys weren't just pulling stuff out of their asses. Looks like Ward will practice this week.

I know this is going to sound crazy, but the PR guys for the Chiefs organization, you know the PR guys that get paid by the Chiefs/Clark Hunt, The department within the company that probably has a budget in the tens of millions of dollars annually, might actually have some inside scoop on team information like who might be available from week to week. Shocker, right?

PR guys have nothing to do with the owner or the head coach, especially if they're caught illegally videoing the sidelines of their opponent and that particular infraction has happened more than once during the tenure of the same head coach/owner.

/Pats fans

Megatron96 09-24-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15190179)
PR guys have nothing to do with the owner or the head coach, especially if they're caught illegally videoing the sidelines of their opponent and that particular infraction has happened more than once during the tenure of the same head coach/owner.

/Pats fans

Here's to hoping the Chiefs organization isn't anything like the Pats.:thumb:

Megatron96 09-24-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15190082)
Don't get me wrong, we all know these guys can get it done.

Honestly, they looked like a preseason defense out there the last couple of weeks. They won a Super Bowl and without the benefit of a proper offseason, they've fallen back on some bad habits.

I'm sure they'll be fine. In fact, given the quality of the competition on Monday, I think they'll be extra-focused.

When I was reviewing the first half of the Chargers game I realized a couple things: if you only have two legit starters at DT and they get doubled nearly every down, their effectiveness in both pass-rushing and run-stopping goes way down really fast. They just get gassed. Without Pennel or Saunders we were subbing in back-up DEs and guys I didn't even know. Getting Pennel back, even though he's probably not 100% ready to go in game shape is going to make a difference.

The other thing I realized was that Spags was kind of staying basic up front. Maybe even in the back, but I wasn't focused on that so all I can really say is I only saw a couple coverages that looked 'exotic' to me.

I think if we get Ward and Pennel back, even if just for limited snaps, the defense will look a lot more like what we were doing late last season.

I will say that Tyrann and Nnadi looked like they were in mid-season form. And that Chris Jones started that game looking like he'd worked on his run defense. You watch the first couple series and he's doing all the right things vs. the run, most important being that he's being a team player. He was helping build the wall that Spags likes to talk about, he was staying in his lane, shedding his blocks, etc. It was really interesting. Somewhere in the second quarter I think he got tired and I think he got impatient. But if Pennel can spell him and Nnadi some, Chris might not have those issues on Monday. And if that turns out to be the case, he could have a really good game.

I know, a lot of "ifs" but my point is that I really think Chris is going to be significantly better against the run this year because I think he's been working on that part of his play. I don't think all that talk about being "the best DT in the game" was all talk for him.

htismaqe 09-24-2020 12:40 PM

Great post.

I will say this:

I'm not sure stopping the run, at least from the RBs, is that much of an issue anyway. It certainly wasn't last year.

Ingram had a monster game and it just didn't matter.

They need to contain Jackson, that's the most important piece.

Dunerdr 09-24-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15189061)
I don’t even think he’s in the concussion protocol.

around the nfl tweeted that he is.

lewdog 09-24-2020 01:21 PM

Has the PR team determined that Niemann is a piece of shit?

Megatron96 09-24-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15190351)
Has the PR team determined that Niemann is a piece of shit?

I don't believe that's a PR team's job? A PR does things like "Scott Pioli-greatest football exec in Chiefs history."

Okay, that's extreme, but you get the idea. They're into spinning the positive.

TEX 09-24-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15190259)
Great post.

I will say this:

I'm not sure stopping the run, at least from the RBs, is that much of an issue anyway. It certainly wasn't last year.

Ingram had a monster game and it just didn't matter.

They need to contain Jackson, that's the most important piece.

Yep. The important stuff goes through Jackson.

dlphg9 09-24-2020 05:46 PM

Andy said that Sammys neck is more of a concern than the concussion

Mahomes_Is_God 09-24-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15190861)
Andy said that Sammys neck is more of a concern than the concussion

Sammy's neck is fine. Put some medical tape on it and get him back out there.

ChiefsFanatic 09-25-2020 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15190259)
They need to contain Jackson, that's the most important piece.

I know this is an unpopular opinion on CP, but I think Jackson poses a bigger threat to our secondary, than our run defense.

Many here dismissively label Lamar Jackson as a RB playing QB, but he led the NFL in passing TDs and QBR last year, and has become an even better passer this season. You don't lead the league in those two categories if you are a RB playing QB. You lead the league in those two categories by being a damn good QB.

I think Mahomes is the best QB that I have ever seen, but Lamar Jackson is becoming a scary version of Michael Vick & Steve Young combined.

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htismaqe 09-25-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 15191470)
I know this is an unpopular opinion on CP, but I think Jackson poses a bigger threat to our secondary, than our run defense.

Many here dismissively label Lamar Jackson as a RB playing QB, but he led the NFL in passing TDs and QBR last year, and has become an even better passer this season. You don't lead the league in those two categories if you are a RB playing QB. You lead the league in those two categories by being a damn good QB.

I think Mahomes is the best QB that I have ever seen, but Lamar Jackson is becoming a scary version of Michael Vick & Steve Young combined.

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Our CB's were up to the task last year, with the defense in even more disarray early.

They'll be up to the task again, IF the front 7 can keep Jackson from extending plays forever with his legs.

Keeping Lamar in the pocket and letting Chris Jones work is what needs to happen.


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