Subway Tuna May Be Mystery Meat
 

What is that smell???
https://www.eatthis.com/news-subway-...investigation/

There's been an interesting, ongoing discussion about the authenticity of Subway's tuna since two Subway customers filed a lawsuit against America's biggest fast-food chain last January. They argued that Subway "falsely advertised" its tuna as real tuna, while alleging that the ingredient Subway serves is "anything but tuna." Now, the New York Times has completed an investigation of multiple samples of Subway's tuna. The verdict? A fish-testing lab says it's hard to say.

On Saturday, Julia Carmel, the reporter who conducted the investigation just published in the New York Times, said on Twitter: "In January, @Choire thought it would be funny to test a Subway tuna sandwich." She refers to fellow writer and former New York Times Style section editor Choire Sicha, as the two seemed to have hit on a worthy question by fishing around about Subway's tuna—as Carmel tweeted: "Nearly 6 months later, I can finally show the world this 2,500-word deep dive into the world of Big Tuna."

It was a "deep-dive" indeed, as the journalist described her method of procuring samples of Subway tuna sandwiches from three Los Angeles-area Subway restaurants. "It seemed logical to order only tuna on the sandwiches—no extra vegetables, cheese or dressing—as the lab was already wary about the challenges of identifying a fish that's been cooked at least once, mixed with mayo, frozen and shipped across the country." Then, Carmel reported, "I was told that if I packed a Ziploc of Subway tuna into a Styrofoam shipping cooler with a few ice packs and mailed it across the country, the lab could test it."

Carmel reports that in a month's time, the lab (which requested not to be named in the New York Times report) relayed their findings, as quoted in this New York Times article excerpt:

"No amplifiable tuna DNA was present in the sample and so we obtained no amplification products from the DNA," the email read. "Therefore, we cannot identify the species."

The spokesman from the lab offered a bit of analysis. "There's two conclusions," he said. "One, it's so heavily processed that whatever we could pull out, we couldn't make an identification. Or we got some and there's just nothing there that's tuna." Subway declined to comment on the lab results.

Cliff notes: It's tuna, and Subway blows boat people.

Well, their new ad campaign makes a lot more sense now.

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Meatball sub. yes.

all others. No

And what, pray tell, is the "meat" in the meatballs, Mr. displacedin MN?

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I was thinking the same thing. Parts is parts!

A few years ago, a team did genetic research on fast food "chicken" from several restaurants.

McDonald's, BK, and several others were using chicken that was 95% or more real chicken.

Subway was using "chicken" that was 50% soy, IIRC.

Really makes you wonder what the top-down motivation is behind manipulating chicken to the point it's not really even chicken anymore.

Then there was the "pink slime" McDonalds was doing...

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I eat fast food maybe once or twice a year...and remember eating McDonalds and how terrible my body felt afterwards...I wont eat there for free...probably wouldn't if they paid me.

It's Subway. Do people really expect it to be actual identifiable food? If you want food, go someplace else.

To get to the other side...


...of the New World Order.

And they very carefully add their ingredients in tiny portions to a roll that is typically stale.

Gross.

This article seems odd to me. In the past, I've seen the tuna....it's in extra large "chicken of the sea" cans and they mix it there. Maybe they've changed their methods?


Also, it tastes, looks, and feels like cheap tuna. Why wouldn't it be cheap tuna? It's not like cheap tuna is hard to ship or keep from spoiling, and neither is cheap mayo. 1 can of tuna, N cups of mayo, mix with a fork - there's a day's worth of tuna. There's very little to be improved with that recipe (from a time/process/simplicity/cost perspective).


Some people just like to throw shit around.

Do you really wonder the motivation?


Cost. Everything is about profit. EVERYTHING.

Meat is meat. It doesn't say which cut of meat. They aren't called "NY strip balls".

"It seemed logical to order only tuna on the sandwiches—no extra vegetables, cheese or dressing—as the lab was already wary about the challenges of identifying a fish that's been cooked at least once, mixed with mayo, frozen and shipped across the country."

So.... the author could have and caught a tuna, cooked it, mixed it with mayo, froze it and then shipped it to the lab and still seen "inconclusive" results?
Maybe find another lab? One that isn't "wary" of testing it?

That's surprising cuz McDonalds chicken feels different

Chicken McNuggets are ground and pressed so that gives them a kind of rubbery texture.

Exactly. People are cool with going to a restaurant that named themselves after a mode of transportation that is famous for smelling like C.H.U.D. vomit and hobo urine and whose spokesman is a convicted pedophile but they'll be damned if they are going to give them $7.99 for a hoagie that doesn't contain 100% USDA certified organic free range dolphin safe tuna.

The shit is cheaper than Meow Mix, folks, so just relax, enjoy your sandwich, and pretend those green bits are diced celery and not recycled chunks of Ninja Turtle action figures that some Japanese fisherman dragged onto his boat while pulling "tuna" out of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

I'm sure they can buy some farm-raised imitation tuna for a fraction of the cost of actual tuna.

Yeah...one would think that using cheap tuna/mayo would be the simple way to go.

So why have tuna sandwiches that a lab cant find any discernible tuna DNA in?

Maybe the manufacturer has a deal in place with Subway...where they package it in normal branding containers...and it comes from specific plants. :shrug:

Who knows..but you would think finding traces of actual tuna in a ****ing tuna sandwich would be pretty easy...it would take some deliberate planning to create fake tuna. The real stuff is already cheap...

I Hate Big Tuna.

Suddenly, I'm getting a real Soylent Green vibe from Subway.

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I thought the same thing...just watched that movie last week.

I'm referring to their chicken breast it also feels rubbery

What seafood do you prefer?

Edward G. Robinson was a fantastic actor. I think I read somewhere that he was completely deaf when he made that picture.

Lobster rolls.

Cole Beasley won't eat it. He will just shoot up some more painkillers.

Hot with melted butter or cold with mayo?

Reminded me of this Onion video...still awesome.

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The latter.

Did anyone here work at Subway in their younger years? Would you care to elaborate on the tuna practices (or any other interesting tidbits)?

I didn't, but a friend that owns a little deli shop fists his tuna

That's probably because they cook everything ahead of time and then just heat it up.

Subway's meat is bottom of the barrel, that's just a known fact. All their deli meats are turkey based and absolutely loaded with sodium.

However, I can't see the need to 'cut' their tuna with anything considering a tin of tuna is cheaper than a can of cat food at this point.

Unless they're mixing it with potted meat, which is the cheapest food on Earth next to ramen noodles. I guess I could see that.

"Fake" fish (cheaper fish sold as something more expensive) is apparently fairly common in restaurants and grocery stores.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/the-...r-seafood.html


For years, Long John Silvers and Red Lobster were selling "lobster" that was really langostino, which is also known as a squat lobster, but actually isn't a lobster. Now they have to call it "langostino lobster," which is still misleading since it really isn't lobster.

But it wasn't a rock...

Just call it Toona and move on. Hell, a lot of the catfish you get in restaurants isn't catfish.

Subway Tuna has a distinct smell. Can anyone guess what it smells similar too? Here's a clue....

https://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/we...0x350_itch.jpg

I smell subway poontang

Anyone who eats at Subway because they think their subs are good has no taste.

Is that what you ate growing up in England?

I remember learning a few years ago (from a Subway corporate exec…) that their “ham” products are actually just turkey dyed with food coloring. For legal reasons, they do contain like 1% ham… but they are 95% turkey.

My old “go to” on the rare occasion I visited Subway prior to that news was a turkey and ham sandwich, now I just get turkey. I’ve got no issue with turkey, but the fact that it was fake ham really bothered me.

Agree that subway is sh*t, but I’ll pick them over McDonalds on a road trip in small town America when nothing else is available.

No. In no particular order:

Marmite on toast
Eggy Soldiers
Shepard's Pie
Fisherman's Pie
Fish and Chips
Pickled Onions

Those are the standouts.

Is that what you ate growing up in England?

freak.

I thought you were an ass man

The British will take something everyone else in the world knows as lobster rolls and name it piddywinkles and chonkers

Oh, and Bangers and Mash

The only thing close to it that I've had since moving here was at a pub in the Gaslamp.

Pretty sure everything at Subway is a mystery "food"

Yeah, I'm just messing with ya. I like pretty much all of the things you listed. :)

I was only seven, so it's not like I had much of a choice.

:)

Found the pub:

https://thefield.com/

I forgot that it's an Irish pub. But the food makes tolerating that easier.

Jimmy John's tuna salad seems alright to me. Just rare that I'm ever in the mood to run out and order a tuna sandwich from anywhere. And I never have the urge to run out and get some Subway.

As the immortal Jared Fogle used to aver ...

"If you can gag it down, it's meat."

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Then you must not have seen some the documentaries about commercial fishing industry...

Never been to a Subway.

That's just ****ed up...I mean if they are willing to go to those lengths to deceive their customers....who knows what else they are doing.

It takes real effort to be that dishonest...

I dont even want to think about what's in their meatballs....

Here is a picture of the meatballs before they're meatballs. A little bit of sauce and Mmmmmmm :drool:

https://image.shutterstock.com/image...-192977519.jpg

Tuna is one of the cheapest proteins on the planet. Hell, I can buy a 5 oz can for 39 cents. What are they substituting?

Wait. I'm pretty sure Subway sells tuna salad, not pure tuna. No wonder there's such a conundrum. Stupid journalists are stupid.

5 oz can = 2 ounces of water .30 ounces of oil and the rest tuna/ whitefish product.

They don't buy tuna in oil and there's about 4.5 oz tuna in water. "Whitefish" by any definition is way more expensive than tuna.

who goes to subway and orders anything other than the spicy italian anyway?

Yes, Italians, the only meat cheaper than tuna.

Reminds me of when This American Life tracked down the rumor that 'imitation' calamari was hog butthole.

Ended up strongly doubting, but unable to definitively debunk.

Some mused that the entire episode was conjured to slyly promote food origin legislation.

Ep segment here - https://www.thisamericanlife.org/484...angers/act-one - no embedding enabled.

No Chip Buttys?

FYP

people actually buy the tuna in oil?

I used to buy that because it's what I got as a kid. Then at some point I finally looked at the labels and realized that I was eating a lot of calories of oil, so I switched.

Why do they make cans of tuna in both oil and water? They don't really taste much different.

I remember learning a few years ago (from a Subway corporate exec…) that their “Italian” products are actually just Turks dyed with bronzer. For legal reasons, they do contain like 1% Snooki…

ikr, it's subway and they don't use kurobuta pork. gah.

i don't expect mcdonalds to serve waygu either.

Well, you should raise your expectations.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-or9ViRSXI...5%2529%2Bt.jpg

Probably a Wagyu kangaroo.

Hope Solo approved

pssh, clearly overcooked.

I'm trying watch my figure.

i'd rather them cook it well done at an establishment like mcd than try for any temp. besides that lol

"Pink slime" is actually real beef

Bologna.