Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17023579)

LMAO Also, that 'hard truth' I've seem him mention a multitude of times? Loses quite a bit of bite when you take into consideration Reid has head coached in the second most playoff games in NFL history.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17023634)

Yeah, if guaranteed money is the issue, figure that out.

Ultimately I just don't have many concerns regarding his level of effort. ESPECIALLY when he's a guy who's done nothing but mature and get better in that regard since he's gotten here. He's gotten more trim, more fit, more dedicated seemingly every year.

Why would that flip? The only worry I ever had was when we flipped from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and I was worried he wouldn't be willing to do the grunt work from an interior tackle that would've been more extreme than as a 3-tech. But he's very obviously proven that concern was unfounded.

Pay the man. Guarantee the largest percentage in league history for a DT. The only concern I might actually have would be on a 3 vs. 4 year extension. Paying him through age 32 is just fine for me but age 33 at top of the market money? Eeeeehhhhhhh......

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17023449)

A head coach should know how to properly use, or not use timeouts, and along with that, challenges on plays that don't ****ng matter early in a contest, that potentially cost you one of your 3 timeouts.

I'll go slow here, so try to keep up.

Superbowl V Buccanneers.

Game situation: Defense has not been able to stop a nosebleed, Patrick Mahomes has had zero protection, and our receivers forgot how to catch footballs.

2 minute warning of first half, Brady and the bucs run the football on first down, and do not spend a timeout, nor do they rush to the line.

Bruce Arians is content to surrender this possession, and go to half up 14-6, a mere 8 point lead.

Andy knows we get the ball to start second half. A possession is being surrendered and the chance to get out of this shitshow half and adjust with an opportunity to tie next drive.

Nah. It's not like our defense has already been flagged 6 times this half. TIMEOUT!!

Defense proceeds to give up 2 spot fouls leading to a TD when Brady, enraged at his gift being refused goes into scoring mode, now we're down 21-6 at half. Brilliant. Who saw that coming?


AFCCG V Bengals. Early in the game Andy throws a challenge flag for spot of the ball. In no way should this have been challenged on such an insignificant play so early.

KC loses the challenge, and a timeout.

Mere seconds left at the end of the half, 0 timeouts left, Andy Reid passes on a gimme FG. Patrick Mahomes tosses an ill fated pass to Hill behind the line of scrimmage, where he is tackled immediately and Mahomes is frantically calling timeout, a timeout he no longer has, because Big Red gambled it and lost it on a ****ing ball spot challenge in the first quarter.

The aftermath lives in infamy. The Chiefs are thrown into disarray after getting nothing before half, Mahomes seems to forget how to play football, Rabblerouser loses his mind and the Bengals go on to lose to stat padford and the lambs in the superbowl we should have been in.

I could go on, but yeah. Timeout and challenge management are pretty God damn important. Especially when ****ing it up on the biggest stage cripples your chances of winning.

Hard truth remains fellas, Andy Reid has lost more post season contests that he was the favorite to win, than any other head coach in history.

It doesn't happen by accident.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17023644)

He's such a freak I think he ages well. He takes care of himself, isn't a fat shit and is just huge. I also think he really wants to be in the Hall of Fame.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17023644)

He's such a freak I think he ages well. He takes care of himself, isn't a fat shit and is just huge. I also think he really wants to be in the Hall of Fame.

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17023868)

JFC.. Dude let it go..

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17023936)

That man's build cracks me up.

He's just built like a regular person who got put in an enlargement machine or something. He's not exactly yoked, he isn't fat.

He's just the living embodiment of the square/cube law. He's like 25% bigger everywhere (except...there) and somehow it makes him 80% more massive. But if you have him just standing in front of a white screen with nothing to provide perspective, he looks like the most normal dude in the world.

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17023958)

Look at this glorious specimen. He has the physique of a tailless TRex

https://www.denverpost.com/wp-conten...poe1.jpg?w=978

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17023973)

I guess he had a biiiiiig ass. Didn't really have the pure gut like some other dudes, though.

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17023958)

Look at this glorious specimen. He has the physique of a tailless TRex

https://www.denverpost.com/wp-conten...poe1.jpg?w=978

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17023981)

I love this play so much.

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17023981)

I love this play so much.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17023941)

He's been ****ing this chicken for 4 years. What makes you think he's going to suddenly become LESS idiotic?

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17023991)

https://youtu.be/zcuenyI-PKM

I love how Michael's says they'll store that in their memory bank for next season. They've been getting owned since before that pass, and for like 6 years after that pass. LMAO

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17024052)

It's so great how Andy saves all the embarrassing trick plays for the Raiders and Broncos, pisses them off real good, and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it. Because if they do anything trolly like a midfield logo stomp, we'll blow them out by 30+ points.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17023973)

I guess he had a biiiiiig ass. Didn't really have the pure gut like some other dudes, though.

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17024190)

It's probably already mentioned and this was before Quinnen Williams signed his new contract BUT there was a report that suggested Chiefs and Jets trade Jones for Williams+pick/player or something I believe. It talked about how Jets could give Jones the money he wants and would be an upgrade to win now with Rodgers while Williams would fit more in the young defensive movement we are doing at the moment. Williams is not on Jones level BUT is right below it. I don't see the Jets still doing this but if they would do a player for player that would save a ton of cap because Jets would eat Williams bonuses. Again just thought it was interesting but never gonna happen kinda thing.


Also I see people saying Jones wants money and HOF. What do you think he needs to do to make the HOF?

Looking at pro-football-reference "Hall of Fame Monitor" it shows Bob Lilly with 159 HOFm points with Aaron Donald 2nd overall at 146.25 points followed by Randy White with 143.68.

The average HOF points for a DT is 105. ATM Jones is at 43.93 with 107 games played. Guys like Fletcher Cox(173) and Geno Atkins(161) are sitting at about 76 HOF points. The closest active player to 105 not named Aaron Donald is Suh with 84.58 points and 199 games played...He won't make it to 105.

This tells me Jones will have to have at least 4 more "Chris Jones" type years to even get close to being considered for the HOF and how fuking good Aaron Donald has been over his relative short career.

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17024190)

It's probably already mentioned and this was before Quinnen Williams signed his new contract BUT there was a report that suggested Chiefs and Jets trade Jones for Williams+pick/player or something I believe. It talked about how Jets could give Jones the money he wants and would be an upgrade to win now with Rodgers while Williams would fit more in the young defensive movement we are doing at the moment. Williams is not on Jones level BUT is right below it. I don't see the Jets still doing this but if they would do a player for player that would save a ton of cap because Jets would eat Williams bonuses. Again just thought it was interesting but never gonna happen kinda thing.


Also I see people saying Jones wants money and HOF. What do you think he needs to do to make the HOF?

Looking at pro-football-reference "Hall of Fame Monitor" it shows Bob Lilly with 159 HOFm points with Aaron Donald 2nd overall at 146.25 points followed by Randy White with 143.68.

The average HOF points for a DT is 105. ATM Jones is at 43.93 with 107 games played. Guys like Fletcher Cox(173) and Geno Atkins(161) are sitting at about 76 HOF points. The closest active player to 105 not named Aaron Donald is Suh with 84.58 points and 199 games played...He won't make it to 105.

This tells me Jones will have to have at least 4 more "Chris Jones" type years to even get close to being considered for the HOF and how fuking good Aaron Donald has been over his relative short career.

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17024281)

Apparently Veach has a price and Jones is saying no. Is there any other reason no extension yet?

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17024190)

It's probably already mentioned and this was before Quinnen Williams signed his new contract BUT there was a report that suggested Chiefs and Jets trade Jones for Williams+pick/player or something I believe. It talked about how Jets could give Jones the money he wants and would be an upgrade to win now with Rodgers while Williams would fit more in the young defensive movement we are doing at the moment. Williams is not on Jones level BUT is right below it. I don't see the Jets still doing this but if they would do a player for player that would save a ton of cap because Jets would eat Williams bonuses. Again just thought it was interesting but never gonna happen kinda thing.


Also I see people saying Jones wants money and HOF. What do you think he needs to do to make the HOF?

Looking at pro-football-reference "Hall of Fame Monitor" it shows Bob Lilly with 159 HOFm points with Aaron Donald 2nd overall at 146.25 points followed by Randy White with 143.68.

The average HOF points for a DT is 105. ATM Jones is at 43.93 with 107 games played. Guys like Fletcher Cox(173) and Geno Atkins(161) are sitting at about 76 HOF points. The closest active player to 105 not named Aaron Donald is Suh with 84.58 points and 199 games played...He won't make it to 105.

This tells me Jones will have to have at least 4 more "Chris Jones" type years to even get close to being considered for the HOF and how fuking good Aaron Donald has been over his relative short career.

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17024190)

It's probably already mentioned and this was before Quinnen Williams signed his new contract BUT there was a report that suggested Chiefs and Jets trade Jones for Williams+pick/player or something I believe. It talked about how Jets could give Jones the money he wants and would be an upgrade to win now with Rodgers while Williams would fit more in the young defensive movement we are doing at the moment. Williams is not on Jones level BUT is right below it. I don't see the Jets still doing this but if they would do a player for player that would save a ton of cap because Jets would eat Williams bonuses. Again just thought it was interesting but never gonna happen kinda thing.


Also I see people saying Jones wants money and HOF. What do you think he needs to do to make the HOF?

Looking at pro-football-reference "Hall of Fame Monitor" it shows Bob Lilly with 159 HOFm points with Aaron Donald 2nd overall at 146.25 points followed by Randy White with 143.68.

The average HOF points for a DT is 105. ATM Jones is at 43.93 with 107 games played. Guys like Fletcher Cox(173) and Geno Atkins(161) are sitting at about 76 HOF points. The closest active player to 105 not named Aaron Donald is Suh with 84.58 points and 199 games played...He won't make it to 105.

This tells me Jones will have to have at least 4 more "Chris Jones" type years to even get close to being considered for the HOF and how fuking good Aaron Donald has been over his relative short career.

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17024364)

Chris Jones is a Chief for life, he will not play for another team.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17024372)

I really hope you're right.

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17024289)

Show your work son, link that shit. Otherwise you made it up.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17024716)

CJ said this same quote when going up against the Eagles in the Super Bowl ��

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17026977)

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17023637)

Alex Smith was fine in the regular season, but couldn't handle the playoffs. I'd assume that's where most of the losses came from. Imagine thinking you have some kinda gotcha when the guy has the 2nd highest playoff winning percentage in history, has 2 Super Bowls, 4 Super Bowl appearances, and has been the the conference title game 6 times.

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17027003)

Do the idiots downvoting me really think this team would be fine without Chris Jones? He is the engine behind the entire defense.

Trading Tyreek worked because the real engine on offense is Mahomes.

Not keeping Jones would cripple the defense. I don’t think Veach is an idiot and will eventually see reason but this shit should’ve been done a long time ago.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17027025)

Been a while since you've been a total ****ing reerun. Got that itch, huh?

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17027003)

Do the idiots downvoting me really think this team would be fine without Chris Jones?

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17027061)

Bit disappointed to see 'far apart' but whatevs.

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17027061)

Bit disappointed to see 'far apart' but whatevs.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17027140)

It is what it is.

It’s definitely unfortunate but Veach knows his value and you trust him. The guy wants to be the 2nd highest paid DT which can mean Aaron Donald -$1 or Quinnen Williams +$1. There’s like a 7mm AAV differential between the two and my guess is Veach 25-26 and Jones is 28-29.

We’ll see how it works out but there’s nothing the team itself could’ve done different.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17027143)

What if he wants 33?

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17026993)

No Alex Smith is horrible on 3rd down. Has nothing to do with playoffs or not playoffs. It's just in close games he's not going to win you jack shit.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17027155)

We were right in the middle of the pack in regards to 3rd down. We won all kinds of regular season games. Alex just couldn't handle the big game.

2017 - 14th
2016 - 18th
2015 - 19th
2014 - 19th
2013 - 27th

He's wasn't Mahomes, but he wasn't god awful or "horrible". It has everything to do with playoffs. We were 1-4 in the playoffs, but we were 53-27 in the regular season with shitty Smith. He was a risk adverse pussy and that can be fine during the regular season, but won't win you any big games.

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027159)

I LOVE Chris Jones but he's being a greedy BASTARD. He's handicapping the team with his bullshit. You know how many Boars I had to jerk off to make a million$$ , I don't know either because I never made a million $$ jerking off Boars but I did it anyway!

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17027163)

You and you're ilk are such douche bags. He can ask for whatever the **** he wants. He's not handicapping anything. Good thing you can be brain dead and still jerk off a boar.

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027159)

I LOVE Chris Jones but he's being a greedy BASTARD. He's handicapping the team with his bullshit. You know how many Boars I had to jerk off to make a million$$ , I don't know either because I never made a million $$ jerking off Boars but I did it anyway!

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027167)

If he'd signed a team friendly deal like Mahomes and Kelce have done we'd have Hopkins in Camp. Not that we need him but just sayin. Belichick would say adios mother ****er. Veach knows this and that's why he's not here dumbass!

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027159)

I LOVE Chris Jones but he's being a greedy BASTARD. He's handicapping the team with his bullshit. You know how many Boars I had to jerk off to make a million$$ , I don't know either because I never made a million $$ jerking off Boars but I did it anyway!

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17027174)

Hog is a Chiefsplanet legend. How he correlates jacking off hogs to so many of lifes lessons is just an uncanny ability.

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027159)

I LOVE Chris Jones but he's being a greedy BASTARD. He's handicapping the team with his bullshit. You know how many Boars I had to jerk off to make a million$$ , I don't know either because I never made a million $$ jerking off Boars but I did it anyway!

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17027177)

Supposed to be 100 damn near every day next week I wouldn't report either

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17027192)

What if money wasn’t the option here and he wants more years? We have no idea what he’s asking for nor do we know what the Chiefs are offering.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17027261)

100 degrees and it's St. Joe. I think I would hold out as well

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17027159)

I LOVE Chris Jones but he's being a greedy BASTARD. He's handicapping the team with his bullshit. You know how many Boars I had to jerk off to make a million$$ , I don't know either because I never made a million $$ jerking off Boars but I did it anyway!

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17027305)

Looking back on your career do you ever think your boss took advantage of your love for jerking off boars and used it as an excuse to severely underpay you? Like deep down he knew you would never go on strike because at the end of the day you can’t keep your hands off hog genitalia for more than a few days.