Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14040289)

Mysterio's work sort of looks like Strange's magic.

I wonder if those are actually Sandman and Hydroman or just Mysterio illusions.

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 14040477)

Everything in the trailer was awesome except for 'MJ." What an annoying whiner.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14040592)

Anyone else think this kind of screws with Endgame? I mean, now obviously Spidey is going to survive somehow.

Just seems weird.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14040680)

Always wanted to see Mysterio in a movie.

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14040652)

What? When did she whine? Are you mad because she isn't ginger?

edit: She has literally two ****ing lines in this trailer and doesn't whine about anything. I'm pretty sure you're just being a bitch and hate that she isn't ginger.

Also, it looks like we get a bit of the stealth spidey.

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14040652)

What? When did she whine? Are you mad because she isn't ginger?

edit: She has literally two ****ing lines in this trailer and doesn't whine about anything. I'm pretty sure you're just being a bitch and hate that she isn't ginger.

Also, it looks like we get a bit of the stealth spidey.

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14041644)

No Ironman in trailer is telling

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14042450)

Wait, that was supposed to be Mary Jane? WTF?

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14041644)

No Ironman in trailer is telling

Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14040969)

This looks awesome! Can't wait to see it.

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14042450)

Wait, that was supposed to be Mary Jane? WTF?

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 14045652)

Yup. She was in the first movie as well. Don't you just love the modern twists on a classic character? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14045038)

I wanna bang Aunt May!

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14042450)

Wait, that was supposed to be Mary Jane? WTF?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14043054)

I have to admit I'm not real excited for this.

The MCU has earned the benefit of the doubt but I'm getting worried about the post-Infinity War movies...

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14040680)

Always wanted to see Mysterio in a movie.

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14063356)

SNIP

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14063356)

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14069223)

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

Originally Posted by youtube comments

Fury: "So nice to finally meet you, Spider-Man."
Peter: "You're Nick Fury..."
Fury: "I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GOD DAMN THING!"

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14063356)

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14069223)

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14091349)

You know how I know you are an idiot? You conflate SJW issues with the Civil Rights movement.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14092803)

Of course comics have always had the socialist/progressive undertones. I didn't read them to find my political center.

I think people finally had enough when they decided to start just straight gender swapping the most popular characters. Why did Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, any of them have to become female at the Secret Wars reset? You want a female Iron Man, develop a new character and have one, but don't nuke a long time favorite in the name of femininity or some SJW agenda. Do some work and actually MAKE a new character that can compete with/against the old one. Anyone not named Logan trying to be Wolverine is nothing but a poser, no matter the sex, and that includes X-23 (and she's pretty awesome). Goes for all the old time, long time characters. IMHO, of course.

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 14093374)

did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.

either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over? :D

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14091699)

ROFL

I'm hoping this is a troll comment because you can't be this ****ing stupid, but then maybe you are.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14069223)

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14093549)

There's a big difference between raising issues of social justice and being an SJW.

Women's suffrage, the civil rights movement, slavery: all legit social justice issues.

Free tampons, imaginary genders, and fanatical hatred of anything dissimilar are completely different.

SJW's are a complete perversion of liberalism and "tolerance." It's not a one sided problem: republicans hijacked morality in the 80's and 90's to suppress free speech in music and media. Now the Dems are.

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 14093374)

did you copy and paste this from another post of yours (ages ago)? i only ask as i feel i have read it before, and only remember it because i totally agreed with said post.

either that, or i am for an infinite number of times, asking you this same question over and over? :D

Originally Posted by LanTera (Post 14093528)

Well I think this movie would be great. Misterio 100% would be the villain, who would use a lot of illusions

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 14094080)

Stan Lee always had the good sense to bring up social issues with analogy and alegory. Marvel, currently, does not use the A&A approach. Marvel now spells everything out for the reader and throws social justice (Maoist) content into the comics in a very ham-fisted way. that's why the comics dont/wont sell

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14063356)

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14099855)

It's a visual medium, and I didn't recognize the character because she's not a smoking hot pale skinned red head. I happen to like smoking hot pale skinned red heads.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14254648)

Ok, so who is Gyllenhalls character? Tell me about him.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14254648)

Ok, so who is Gyllenhalls character? Tell me about him.

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14254675)

Mysterio. In the comics he was a goofy villain with no superpowers. Big dome over his head so you could never see his face. He was an illusionist. Used hallucinogenic gasses and holograms to create elaborate illusions. He would envelop himself in smoke to stay hidden and confuse his enemies. Seems weird that they would use him over so many other good villains, but whatever.

I'd bet a dollar that the giant monsters you see in the trailer are all just illusions. Mysterio is going to make himself a hero by defeating his own fake monsters, and then Spidey will get framed and have to prove the truth.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14254705)

So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14254705)

So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?

Originally Posted by Buns (Post 14254800)

I wonder if that's real Nick Fury...

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14254705)

So it's just all a ruse that he's from another multiverse?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14101561)

Exactly. That's her whole thing.

It makes as much sense as making Storm a white gal from Wisconsin or Wolverine from Mexico.

Yes, it actually is important to the character.

And if "race doesn't matter" why are the constantly changing it? I mean, that's the point is that it shouldn't matter what race you are, right? So why change it?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14255911)

Really good trailer.

If that multiverse thing is real and not a red herring, maybe that's how they get the X-Men and Fantastic Four into the MCU. Would certainly explain why they weren't around yet in canon.

I know this is supposed to be the end of phase 2 but that sure looks like a place to start phase 3.

Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14256087)

Because people of other ethnicities want heros they can relate too. Why can't super man be Asian? He's an aloen after all

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14256282)

So make new heroes who fit that mold. Leave existing characters as they have always been. Changing them is just pandering and if not for the movies would have bankrupted Marvel.

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14256292)

Quoting this post for when they make a Ms Marvel movie.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14256282)

So make new heroes who fit that mold. Leave existing characters as they have always been. Changing them is just pandering and if not for the movies would have bankrupted Marvel.

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14256292)

Quoting this post for when they make a Ms Marvel movie.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14256925)

Can't wait to see the reactions to that. Feige has already hinted at her possibly coming later to the mcu

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14257200)

Word has been that they're introducing her in the Captain Marvel sequel, but who knows.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14257207)

That'd pretty cool