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Titty Meat 09-13-2019 12:22 AM

Mods this trade rumor shit is getting out of hand. Lock these threads plz.

Dante84 09-13-2019 12:25 AM

Hmm. If we did Minkah (49ers 2nd) and Peterson (our late 1st), that would be a pretty all-in move.
CB:
Peterson
Fuller
Breeland
Claiborne
Ward

S:
Honeybadger
Thornhill
Fitzpatrick
Watts
Sorensen

Chargem 09-13-2019 12:46 AM

Would be a cheap replacement for Fuller next year, but not that cheap based on how high he was drafted. Definitely not worth our 2nd.

Direckshun 09-13-2019 12:48 AM

There is absolutely no reason to sacrifice a 2nd rounder for a 3rd safety.

I was saying during draft season, I was saying it during free agency after we picked up Mathieu, and I'll say it now:

We are set at safety. Our depth chart there is very good.

We desperately need corners. And adding Peterson would give us the CB corps we need, moving Ward to 5th corner, and Breeland and Fuller to #2 and #3.

New World Order 09-13-2019 12:55 AM

What if you couldn't get PP, Howard or Ramsey.

Would you give up a third for Bouye?

Direckshun 09-13-2019 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14444347)
What if you couldn't get PP, Howard or Ramsey.

Would you give up a third for Bouye?

I don't know him too well, so no comment.

New World Order 09-13-2019 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14444348)
I don't know him too well, so no comment.

Second-team all-pro in 2017.

7th best corner going into 2019 via PFF.

BryanBusby 09-13-2019 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14444295)
Wrong question.

Why do we need a 22 year old DB who has proven he can play any position in the secondary at an extremely high level, having been nominated for Def Rookie of the Year, while also having a very affordable rookie contract?

Extremely high level? I think you've got him confused for Derwin James, m8.

At any rate, a second year player that has no clout has no room to be requesting shit. Suck it up and do what your coaches ask.

BossChief 09-13-2019 03:03 AM

Do it Veach. A 2nd for this kid is peanuts. Also, being the 11th pick means his 5th year option isn’t as expensive.

Put him at corner and keep him there.

I wonder if we could offer a 1 and 2 for Howard and Minkah.

BossChief 09-13-2019 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14444359)
Extremely high level? I think you've got him confused for Derwin James, m8.

At any rate, a second year player that has no clout has no room to be requesting shit. Suck it up and do what your coaches ask.

On a team that’s tanking? Nah, we disagree here. This kid has the skill set to play outside or inside corner and has safety versatility. That’s huge in a long season.

Getting him for the next 4 years (counting option year) for rookie wages would be a very smart move.

BryanBusby 09-13-2019 03:25 AM

Don't agree. The kid was drafted to a swiss army knife and when the Dolphins finally asked him to be one, he got pissed.

Tanking or not, the Dolphins made a huge commitment to him a year ago and passed up an elite talent for him. I'm pro player to a fault, but sometimes the player is in the wrong. Never gave the dude that helped coach a top tier passing D a chance.

That's not the attitude we need to install on this Defense. This team needs a proven outside cover corner, so I don't even know why this is a serious discussion.

BossChief 09-13-2019 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14444373)
Don't agree. The kid was drafted to a swiss army knife and when the Dolphins finally asked him to be one, he got pissed.

Tanking or not, the Dolphins made a huge commitment to him a year ago and passed up an elite talent for him. I'm pro player to a fault, but sometimes the player is in the wrong. Never gave the dude that helped coach a top tier passing D a chance.

That's not the attitude we need to install on this Defense. This team needs a proven outside cover corner, so I don't even know why this is a serious discussion.

“he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%.”

That’s pretty good for Rambo.

BossChief 09-13-2019 03:57 AM

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-top-10-...rating-in-2018

Top ten corners in terms of lowest passer rating allowed.

Minkah was 7th in the NFL and first in the slot, last year.

Xavien Howard was 3rd.

I’d be interested in giving up next years 1 and 2 for the pair of em.

Couch-Potato 09-13-2019 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14444379)
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-top-10-...rating-in-2018

Top ten corners in terms of lowest passer rating allowed.

Minkah was 7th in the NFL and first in the slot, last year.

Xavien Howard was 3rd.

I’d be interested in giving up next years 1 and 2 for the pair of em.

I'm in. Pull the trigger.

Mecca 09-13-2019 04:54 AM

If you think you can get quality play from Fuller on the outside or even Fitzpatrick out there then yea it's worth it because he's cheap.


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