I cant wait til Fitz flames out and then we all laugh in Jameis Winston @ the Bucs

Yep. Everybody knows Fitz has one of his patented 4 INT meltdowns coming.

If I were a team like Pitt or SD, I'd call the Bucs and see what they'd take for Jameis to sit behind Ben or Rivers.

Yeah, but their player grading is... sketchy at best.

ESPECIALLY with offensive linemen. Having a talented QB or RB will cause linemen grades to skyrocket. Go back to 2009. KC replaced Johnson with Charles and the OL grade went form the NFL worst with Johnson to the NFL best with Charles.

Just like that. Am I supposed to believe the OL just started playing better?

From my time working for them it is not sketchy but it is largely about effeciency and not to do with a lot intangibles and reading defenses. For example The TD passes to Hunt (dump off), Conley (busted coverage) and Hill (Destroyed his press/man) will not attract massive scores. However fumbling his snap and missing a couple of shots downfield with good seperation will impact his score negatively a fair amount.

Jameis is never going to be jack or shit. He just doesn't have the mentality and nothing he has done since being drafted shows he is capable of changing.

PFF has Mahomes at 94.1 and Kelce at 90.5.

That's probably true.

But still, he's talented.

Tyreek Hill at 122.1^6.

I agree. Can't take it completely seriously, but it's interesting to track.

Now I'm seeing 93.5 (#2 QB) for this link. https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...-mahomes/11765

Weird. I swear this morning it was 83.8. Maybe that was his week 1 rating.

83.8 was indeed his week 1 rating, he is 2nd overall now behind Fitzmagic (Kirk Cousins is 3rd).

From the Steelers game only, Top 5 Offensive players:
Mahomes - 94.1
Kelce - 90.5
Watkins - 88.3
Hill - 86.7
Robinson - 77

Top 5 Defensive players:
Fuller - 72.7
Ragland - 72.6
Scandrick - 68.2
Hitchens - 64.5
Speaks - 63.4

Very surprised about those defense rankings, Scandrick's rating is so high because he only allowed one catch on 8 targets and it was for 0 yards, where as Nelson allowed 6 receptions on 11 targets for 47 yards.

Speaks is literally 5th by doing nothing, 62.5 appears to be the "no impact on the game at all" grade and that's what he did in his 20 snaps.

I'm not copy pasting / screenshotting the whole thing, but if there's anything else specific you guys wanna see let me know.

I find it hard to believe they had Ragland 8 points better than Hitchens in that game. I know Hitch blew a couple of coverages, but I still thought he had a better game than Ragland.

Hitchens had a much better game. He had quite a few spectacular plays. Ragland played ok but had some missed tackles. I would have assumed Hitchens would have had the highest rankings on our defense.