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Hoover 02-20-2020 01:09 PM
And you're right, you add Jones to that defense and its a top 15 unit. And their entire roster isn't that bad really. If NE tanks they could be a playoff team with a legit QB.

The Franchise 02-20-2020 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14805295)
So do you think we could get picks 18 & 70 for Jones, or could we get 26 and 56?

I'd be down for either.
My guess is a 1st and a 3rd. I’d be ecstatic to get a 1st and a 2nd.

Nightfyre 02-20-2020 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14799440)
For Watkins, I just don't see a team giving up draft capital for the right to overpay Sammy for one year. The team trading for him will absorb a $14 million cap hit, which is expensive, but not insane. The question for a Sammy trade is whether or not there's a team out there that would prefer to get him on an expensive one-year deal VS getting him on a cheaper long-term deal. He's an elite WR2 with an injury history that is getting cut unless rescued by a trade. That's going to push his value down.

We're not getting anything substantial in a Sammy Watkins trade.
I don't agree. Watkins contact lends itself to a long term extension with conversion of the 14 million to signing bonus and therefore prorated over the contract.

Hoover 02-20-2020 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 14805400)
I don't agree. Watkins contact lends itself to a long term extension with conversion of the 14 million to signing bonus and therefore prorated over the contract.
While I tend to agree, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility. Sammy is 26, still in his prime, and you have to realize that AJ Green is going to be asking for 15M a season. I think a WR team like the Packers. They could rent him for a year or get him in and extend him to make the contract more friendly. He's exactly what Rogers needs. but probably a pipe dream.

kccrow 02-20-2020 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14805295)
So do you think we could get picks 18 & 70 for Jones, or could we get 26 and 56?

I'd be down for either.
I tend to think 1-26 and 3-68

O.city 02-20-2020 04:21 PM
Man I just hate trading the guy. I think he's the best most important piece on the defense.

RunKC 02-20-2020 04:29 PM
I don’t think we are trading him with the new CBA. Instead of $10 million average, you can count on a $15-17 million increase with more overall games, gambling and more international games.

Sign him now. Have 2020 be his first year low cap hit and have 1 season (2021) be with a moderately high cap hit.

That extra $5-7 million increase starting in Spring 2022 will help us big time.

Chargem 02-21-2020 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14805664)
I don’t think we are trading him with the new CBA. Instead of $10 million average, you can count on a $15-17 million increase with more overall games, gambling and more international games.

Sign him now. Have 2020 be his first year low cap hit and have 1 season (2021) be with a moderately high cap hit.

That extra $5-7 million increase starting in Spring 2022 will help us big time.
Or, will he want $25m per because of the new CBA?

Chris Meck 02-21-2020 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14805648)
Man I just hate trading the guy. I think he's the best most important piece on the defense.
Nobody WANTS to.


It just may be necessary.

Direckshun 02-21-2020 08:38 AM
I think a Frank Clark deal is completely reasonable for Jones. Interior passrush may very well be the 2nd most important thing an NFL team needs.

A 1st this year and a 2nd next year, I anticipate.

O.city 02-21-2020 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14806405)
Nobody WANTS to.


It just may be necessary.
I'd rather trim the fat and go cheap and young elsewhere. He's an elite player and a corner stone of the defense.

KChiefs1 02-24-2020 01:16 PM
Detroit is the best trade partner for Stone Cold.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-24-2020 03:07 PM
Bullshit

Bill Brasky 02-25-2020 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14801538)
Tag cost will be big, and you can't work any of that cap magic by using signing bonuses etc, can't see him just playing a year on the tag, that would suck for the Chiefs.
We can afford the tag cost next year after we cut Sammy, which we will. $16.8M. However, I don't see Jones playing on a 1 year contract because it's too risky. If he gets hurt, it will jeopardize his chances at a 5 year deal.

The Dolphins makes a ton of sense.

KChiefs1 02-26-2020 12:54 PM
Guy on Twitter who covers the Colts says the Colts would give up 34th & 44th picks for him.


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