Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14075316)

not sure if this is where I should say this but-

I did some looking back through Spags' personnel on his better defenses. He'll play rookies in key spots and 2nd year guys. In 2007 he had a rookie corner and a couple of second year starters. So if guys can play, they'll play.

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14074703)

I've been saying all season that Boyd was tremendously over rated in mock drafts and I think senior bowl week has proven that out. He was atrocious in his time during the first half.

With that said...here's some scouting feedback on the two Longhorn targets we've talked to.

My personal opinion is that if we tag + trade Dee Ford that Charles Omenihu could be an interesting take for us to slide into the LEO alongside Chris Jones in Spags defense.

" The bottom line is that neither Charles Omenihu nor Kris Boyd blew the doors off the Senior Bowl in the way many would have hoped. There is good news, though. I've talked to tons of scouts and professional analysts this week and no one thinks Omenihu falls out of the second round. Sitting at the airport and typing this, I was talking to a well-known sportswriter who said hello and I told him I was writing an update on the two and asked his opinion. He said that he couldn't see Charles going any later than Day 2 (meaning rounds 2 and 3) and a scout sitting at my gate next to me overheard the conversation and agreed that he will not. Armed with all this information, I think it is fair to project Omenihu's draft floor currently as late third-round with upside to move up from there with a good combine and/or a great game on Saturday.

We've seen edge guys like Ezekiel Ansah and even as recently as last year, Marcus Davenport, have a slow week of practices and then explode in the game to help their stock. Such an event for Omenihu would surely be a boon.

"There were so many good DL," one scout said when I asked about Omenihu's week, "it was hard to stand out. Better using his hands. You saw his arms, but I like the way he used his hands. The (North OL) is tough."

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14075336)

I'm assuming the rookie corner was a 1st rounder?

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14075326)

Disagree. Williams done well no doubt, but he's still not as good as Kareem Hunt and that's why the Pats were able to be successful in the first half because they didn't respect our run game at all. Getting a stud rb should be a priority imo and i'm hopeful that they already know who like and their targets weren't at the senior bowl.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14075680)

The dude had 3 TD's last Sunday, and would have had 4 without the overthrow. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14075352)

Or Jaylon Ferguson, DE/Edge, Lousiana Tech. Either would be nice.

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14075680)

The dude had 3 TD's last Sunday, and would have had 4 without the overthrow. :shrug:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14076445)

He was schemed open imo. We need a dominant rb to really enhance this O and keep it at a high level I think.

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 14076307)

Man, I really like Jaylon too.

Honestly, reading more about him after the senior bowl he might be my favorite edge rusher that we could realistically have a shot at drafting.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14076760)

You should re-read your sentence. And think about what you said in it. And what it means.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14077094)

If he's relying on being schemed open then he's not top class. The better rb's don't need to be schemed open, THEY DOMINATE either way. I hope you can fathom my point this time.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14077165)

I got it in the first place. I think you're misguided.

RB's always do well in Reid's scheme. Always. Because, as you say, they are 'schemed open'.

Hunt had some particular physical attributes, notably outstanding balance. Damien Williams is a good receiver, pass blocker, shifty runner with some power and 'want to'. He produces like a top 10 back projected over a full season. You also have Darrel Williams, who has looked like an excellent power back in limited duty. And Ware, who just a couple of years ago was your #1 back and has 4 years now in the offense. If you had to, West has also been decent. You have a stable of RB's that can all produce.

Statistically speaking, however, we lost absolutely nothing when Hunt left. The production didn't drop off.

When you have a top flight offense with everyone returning, including depth at RB, and a #31 ranked defense, you don't spend draft capital or FA money on RB's. Even with Hunt here, RB is like the 3rd option of this offense.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14076445)

He was schemed open imo. We need a dominant rb to really enhance this O and keep it at a high level I think.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14077179)

Well firstly Ware is a free agent this offseason and is unlikely to be back. Secondly Williams has been in the league for a while now and this is his best ever period of production and why is that? It's because he's scheme reliant imo and isn't someone who's natural ability can change a game like Kareem could. Tbh I would be stunned if the Chiefs follow your logic and don't get a new rb. Yes, the defense needs attention but there is no harm in strengthening your strength (offense) a little more too.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14077211)

prepare to be stunned.

Only so many cap dollars to go around. Big, gaping holes on defense and only so many draft picks.

mid to low round RB pick, sure, perhaps. More likely a small school UDFA.