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ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2019 03:15 PM

Chiefs sign Alex Okafor [restructured]
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to sign former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> DE Alex Okafor, source said. He gets a 3-year deal worth up to $24M.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1106302624385634305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 03-14-2019 03:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have signed DE Alex Okafor to a three-year deal worth $18 million, a source tells me. Deal can reach $24 million with incentives.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1106303210451537926?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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KCrockaholic 03-14-2019 03:17 PM

Seems like a hefty price for him...

Red Dawg 03-14-2019 03:17 PM

Gettin deep up in here.

TambaBerry 03-14-2019 03:17 PM

I honestly don't know what to think about this

staylor26 03-14-2019 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 14157632)
Seems like a hefty price for him...

6 million a year (potentially 9) for a starter? Not really.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:18 PM

16 starts, 4 sacks, 9 QB hits.

KCrockaholic 03-14-2019 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14157635)
6 million a year for a starter? Not really.

But he's not really starter quality. Nor much of a pass rusher.

Imon Yourside 03-14-2019 03:18 PM

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Munson 03-14-2019 03:18 PM

Never heard of this dude.

Is he any good?

notorious 03-14-2019 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14157634)
I honestly don't know what to think about this

If the Chiefs sign him he’s a badass.


If the Chiefs release him he was an overpaid, worthless piece of shit.


There you go.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 14157632)
Seems like a hefty price for him...

$6 million for a 4 sack player or $21 million for a 9 sack player?

Value

Good pickup. Needed a vet 4-3 Defensive End. Now we have more flexibility this offseason

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2019 03:19 PM

Seems steep, but want to see the structure of the deal.

RunKC 03-14-2019 03:19 PM

Solid move. You couldn’t get Ogbah so this was plan B.

Productive, experienced pass rusher who can provide good depth and rotate.

O.city 03-14-2019 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14157650)
If the Chiefs sign him he’s a badass.


If the Chiefs release him he was an overpaid, worthless piece of shit.


There you go.

Words to live by

Simply Red 03-14-2019 03:20 PM

OMG CuyYUTE!

http://i66.tinypic.com/dw8fex.jpg

Marcellus 03-14-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 14157644)
But he's not really starter quality. Nor much of a pass rusher.

He started every game last year on a defense that also had Cam Jordan and Marcus Davenport at DE. :shrug:

gblowfish 03-14-2019 03:21 PM

So, does he replace Alan Bailey?

oldandslow 03-14-2019 03:21 PM

Had a busted achilles in 17 so he fits the profile.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14157664)
So, does he replace Alan Bailey?

No. Bailey is an interior DL

Okafor will play on the edge

Hydrae 03-14-2019 03:22 PM

So much for Golden?

KC_Lee 03-14-2019 03:22 PM

Criminal jaywalker.

Red Dawg 03-14-2019 03:22 PM

He can take on blocks and hit the rb better than Ford. That helps.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2019 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14157653)
Seems steep, but want to see the structure of the deal.

Yep.

What's the dead cap if/when cut after 2 and how much is he making in the first 2 seasons?

I mean if this turns into a 2 year $12 million deal with a bit of dead cap space on the other side...meh.

But I'd like to see the structure before I really care either way.

Bump 03-14-2019 03:23 PM

nothing to get excited about but I guess it's depth and I guess a 3 yr $18-24 mill is cheap these days?

Red Dawg 03-14-2019 03:24 PM

He's the next Reggie White until he's not. He gets it done 60% of the time 100% of the time.

dlphg9 03-14-2019 03:25 PM

Dude owns a cupcake shop.

petegz28 03-14-2019 03:25 PM

Probably not a bad signing

htismaqe 03-14-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14157676)
Yep.

What's the dead cap if/when cut after 2 and how much is he making in the first 2 seasons?

I mean if this turns into a 2 year $12 million deal with a bit of dead cap space on the other side...meh.

But I'd like to see the structure before I really care either way.

Yep, right. First two years and guarantees, those are the really important pieces.

New World Order 03-14-2019 03:26 PM

He looks like a good run defender.

We're going to be blitzing a ton this year.

O.city 03-14-2019 03:26 PM

It's so much nicer, to me atleast, to be able to sign guys to play the DL in a different system than previous.

I don't know why.

HemiEd 03-14-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 14157648)
Never heard of this dude.

Is he any good?

ROFL

I am fricken thrilled with what he may bring. He was a stud at Texas, thought he would go earlier than the 4th round.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:29 PM

The Saints run defense was ranked No.1 last year. Okafor was a part of that, so there’s more to it than sack numbers.

TEX 03-14-2019 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 14157666)
Had a busted achilles in 17 so he fits the profile.

ROFL OUCH!

Okafor is a pretty tough dude. Never quits. Was a work out warrior in college and that had carried over to the pros. Very good work ethic. He'll help the Chiefs. Dont really know what to think about the cost until we see how its structured. But this guy can play.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2019 03:32 PM

$6M a year isn’t bad. We need players. He could start, so that’s good value more than likely.

Now where is Darby.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:32 PM

https://saintsreport.com/threads/def...saints.406005/

Saints fans thoughts on Okafor

Sounds like a solid pickup

TwistedChief 03-14-2019 03:33 PM

Quote:

On March 9, 2015, Okafor was arrested for evading arrest on foot and for a misdemeanor warrant for jaywalking in Austin, Texas. The Austin Police Department responded to a disturbance at 1:51AM in Austin's downtown entertainment district after he was running through an intersection and knocked over a pedestrian on the way to a bar. Police responded and after discovering the warrant, Okafor then ran on foot and was finally caught, taken down by three officers, and arrested.
Took 3 officers to bring him down. Most of the other DEs we were thinking of signing were brought down by 2 cops. I like his moxie.

booger 03-14-2019 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14157647)
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Good vid for people to look at on the Leo spot on some of their under looks.
Remember Reid interviewed their DC Dennis Allen before hiring Spags. So just in that way you get an idea what they look for in the weak side DE. And he fits the mold of the strong pursuit, high motor relentless type players Veach has brought up since the Speaks pick. It’s not flashy and lightning first step but it’s a solid rotational piece. And they do need a veteran as they tear down the old D and build it back up.

Easy 6 03-14-2019 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 14157717)
The Saints run defense was ranked No.1 last year. Okafor was a part of that, so there’s more to it than sack numbers.

That's a fact I can get behind

4 sacks in 16 games is no great shakes, but sacks aren't everything... this run D is in desperate need of improvement

nychief 03-14-2019 03:35 PM

Great. We got Tyson Jackson without spending the THIRD OVERALL pick on him.

loochy 03-14-2019 03:36 PM

I don't know much about him, but he sounds young enough and solid enough (but not flashy). Pair him with a draft pick and let them fight it out.

Iconic 03-14-2019 03:36 PM

necessary cog in the system, can't complain

KCUnited 03-14-2019 03:37 PM

Ace in the hole when we play them next February.

tyton75 03-14-2019 03:37 PM

Seems to use his hands really well. Looks like a taller, step-slower version of Justin Houston.

htismaqe 03-14-2019 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14157730)
Took 3 officers to bring him down. Most of the other DEs we were thinking of signing were brought down by 2 cops. I like his moxie.

ROFL

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14157650)
If the Chiefs sign him he’s a badass.


If the Chiefs release him he was an overpaid, worthless piece of shit.


There you go.

Amen brother

RunKC 03-14-2019 03:38 PM

It’s always a low first year cap hit. If it’s $6 million AAV, it will probably be roughly $4 million this year IMO.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2019 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 14157749)
Seems to use his hands really well. Looks like a taller, step-slower version of Justin Houston.

I am REALLY curious what Houston goes for.

I'm telling you, I still think that guy is a letter-perfect SDE here. I'd be pretty disappointed to see him sign somewhere for a reasonable figure that we could've brought him back under.

I do wonder if there aren't more hard feelings among the 'old guard' here than we were led to believe. Those contract negotiations in '15 and '16 seem to have rubbed that group of players (Houston, Berry and Hali) pretty raw.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2019 03:39 PM

Looks like all of his PFF grades dipped a little in 2018 from 2017. Probably related to the Achilles recovery.

If you get the 2017 player, he’s well worth it.

htismaqe 03-14-2019 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14157650)
If the Chiefs sign him he’s a badass.


If the Chiefs release him he was an overpaid, worthless piece of shit.


There you go.

That's actually like 180 degrees opposite of the usual PPL...

Skyy God 03-14-2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14157692)
Dude owns a cupcake shop.

That’s Orakpo.

tmax63 03-14-2019 03:41 PM

Sounds like a good piece of clay for Daly to shape into whatever he wants without breaking the bank. Jones, Nnadi, Okafor, Speaks, TK, Williams. I think Daly can create something with that.

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14157730)
Took 3 officers to bring him down. Most of the other DEs we were thinking of signing were brought down by 2 cops. I like his moxie.

Damn straight!

DJ's left nut 03-14-2019 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14157757)
That's actually like 180 degrees opposite of the usual PPL...

I keep two posts queued up at all times.

One for if Dorsey does a thing. Another for if Veach does that same thing.

Because that's just how I roll, man. You should've seen the posts I had for Earl Thomas. Oh had I been around CP when Dorsey had evidently signed him. So much gargling was going to happen. But had Veach done it - RAAAAAGE!!

Because I hate everything now.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14157761)
That’s Orakpo.

{googles}

Well shit. Those are different people.

And they both went to UT, which was all I thought I knew about Alex Okafor. Which is to say I probably don't know anything about Okafor afterall.

Carry on...

lcarus 03-14-2019 03:43 PM

Is he an under 26 All-Pro whose never been injured on a team friendly deal? If not then **** this signing.

YontsRBake 03-14-2019 03:43 PM

This forum starting to understand Veach isn’t a good GM yet? Or is it gonna take more time?

Iconic 03-14-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157781)
This forum starting to understand Veach isn’t a good GM yet? Or is it gonna take more time?

come back after the draft when he reaches on a guy no ones heard of with the first

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14157779)
{googles}

Well shit. Those are different people.

And they both went to UT, which was all I thought I knew about Alex Okafor. Which is to say I probably don't know anything about Okafor afterall.

Carry on...

I'd asked in the FA thread about Okafor and if he'd previously been a NYG. I think I was confusing the two as well

Chiefspants 03-14-2019 03:46 PM

From everything i’m reading he seems to be the complete opposite of Dee Ford.

Hydrae 03-14-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 14157736)
Good vid for people to look at on the Leo spot on some of their under looks.
Remember Reid interviewed their DC Dennis Allen before hiring Spags. So just in that way you get an idea what they look for in the weak side DE. And he fits the mold of the strong pursuit, high motor relentless type players Veach has brought up since the Speaks pick. It’s not flashy and lightning first step but it’s a solid rotational piece. And they do need a veteran as they tear down the old D and build it back up.

Me likey! Stout on the run, gets off blocks well, and some not bad moves to the QB as well. This could be a very good pickup for a relatively cheap price.

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157781)
This forum starting to understand Veach isn’t a good GM yet? Or is it gonna take more time?

I hope you contract the latest, and greatest, new and exotic form of AIDS. You should drink some antifreeze, though, in the meantime to ease the transition

YontsRBake 03-14-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14157782)
come back after the draft when he reaches on a guy no ones heard of with the first

I think spending 8 mil per year on a guy with 14 sacks in the last 4 years after tradinga guy with 13 in the last season instead of paying him 16m is enough.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157781)
This forum starting to understand Veach isn’t a good GM yet? Or is it gonna take more time?

:rolleyes:

Truthfully, we don’t know one way or another yet. Personally, I think the guy has a vision and it’s going to come together piece by piece.

You’re the type to hate that Ford trade now, but when a year or two goes by and cap space is harder to find, you’re gonna be damn glad he has that extra 2nd rounder that is a cheap, talented player.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157791)
I think spending 8 mil per year on a guy with 14 sacks in the last 4 years after tradinga guy with 13 in the last season instead of paying him 16m is enough.

It’s $6M per year. Incentives are built in.

Read. The. Posts.

Iconic 03-14-2019 03:48 PM

im personally withholding judgement till after this season ends. but i might get emotional post draft if he doesn't do what my armchair-gm ass wants

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157791)
I think spending 8 mil per year on a guy with 14 sacks in the last 4 years after tradinga guy with 13 in the last season instead of paying him 16m is enough.

Jesus Christ.. You FB/Twatter fans do know there's more to defensive football than sacks, correct?

RealSNR 03-14-2019 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14157755)
I am REALLY curious what Houston goes for.

I'm telling you, I still think that guy is a letter-perfect SDE here. I'd be pretty disappointed to see him sign somewhere for a reasonable figure that we could've brought him back under.

I do wonder if there aren't more hard feelings among the 'old guard' here than we were led to believe. Those contract negotiations in '15 and '16 seem to have rubbed that group of players (Houston, Berry and Hali) pretty raw.

I don't see how or why. All three of those guys got paid out the ass.

Did Dorsey **** their sisters while at the negotiating table or what?

YontsRBake 03-14-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14157796)
:rolleyes:

Truthfully, we don’t know one way or another yet. Personally, I think the guy has a vision and it’s going to come together piece by piece.

You’re the type to hate that Ford trade now, but when a year or two goes by and cap space is harder to find, you’re gonna be damn glad he has that extra 2nd rounder that is a cheap, talented player.

And when a year goes by we’ll still be paying this garbage 8 mil per year instead of a guy who will have 12+ sacks next season.

Pretty sure the result will be the opposite.

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14157796)
:rolleyes:

Truthfully, we don’t know one way or another yet. Personally, I think the guy has a vision and it’s going to come together piece by piece.

You’re the type to hate that Ford trade now, but when a year or two goes by and cap space is harder to find, you’re gonna be damn glad he has that extra 2nd rounder that is a cheap, talented player.

Or when Ford misses half if next season with a back injury, a topic I'm VERY familiar and well versed in...

RealSNR 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

Did we sign this piece of shit yet????!!!!

DJ's left nut 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14157803)
I don't see how or why. All three of those guys got paid out the ass.

Did Dorsey **** their sisters while at the negotiating table or what?

So'd that shitty Mormon offensive lineman we drafted like 20 years ago but King Carl cussed at him or said he had an ugly girlfriend or something so he never really got over it.

Just seems like some bruised egos never really got unbruised even after they cashed those signing bonuses...

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157807)
And when a year goes by we’ll still be paying this garbage 8 mil per year instead of a guy who will have 12+ sacks next season.

Pretty sure the result will be the opposite.

Oh my gerd.. sacks. Because having the best pass rush helped tremendously with our SB victory last year?

Spoiler!

smithandrew051 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157807)
And when a year goes by we’ll still be paying this garbage 8 mil per year instead of a guy who will have 12+ sacks next season.

Pretty sure the result will be the opposite.

Can you name one player that the Chiefs have released/traded/not re-signed under Reid that we’ve really regretted?

If Reid allows them to get away, we won’t miss them.

ntexascardfan 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

This deal also gives us a ton of flexibility with that first pick.

There will be some solid edge guys in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds who could be solid players for us with some maturation.

If we sign Darby, we could take a developmental corner in the 2nd or 3rd...someone like Trayvon Mullen.

We're essentially winnowing down our needs for a guy we draft to come in and be a starter from day one.

It'll be interesting to see if we sign a second safety.

Naptown Chief 03-14-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14157812)
Did we sign this piece of shit yet????!!!!

WE DID!!!

SUPERBOAL!!

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157807)
And when a year goes by we’ll still be paying this garbage 8 mil per year instead of a guy who will have 12+ sacks next season.

Pretty sure the result will be the opposite.

It’s $6M per year. How long are you gonna ignore that?

YontsRBake 03-14-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 14157802)
Jesus Christ.. You FB/Twatter fans do know there's more to defensive football than sacks, correct?

Right. In a 4-3 with the best offense in the NFL, I want my DEs to stand there locked with the tackle on passing plays while teams are throwing every down.

Best22 03-14-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14157807)
And when a year goes by we’ll still be paying this garbage 8 mil per year instead of a guy who will have 12+ sacks next season.

Pretty sure the result will be the opposite.

Ford??????????????

He’s the reason we didn’t play in February

Why do the Pats win? They don’t make stupid mental mistakes. You think the Pats would’ve kept Ford after that? Lol

He’d be shipped off to SF for a 2025 6th round pick

JakeF 03-14-2019 03:54 PM

We went from 8m for Bailey to 6m for Okafor?


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