Getting his QB signed long term, gives him a luxury few GMs have ever had. All he has to do is keep a core together around Mahomes while cycling through low cost guys to round it all out. He won't have a hot seat any time soon, unless he just totally shits the bed. If you ask me, that security is worth as much as any short term big payday.

Its a good time to be a Chiefs fan.

Yeah, **** Clowney for $15 million.


Like most here I think resigning Jones just became a helluva lot more probable. :thumb:

Can you read?

The only way they have $$ to add Clowney is under the scenario of extending Jones long-term and doing it in a way that frees up cap in 2020.

It’s plausible that Clowney will pick a one-year spot that gives him the best chance to increase his market value if he can’t find the mega-deal he’s looking for from a team he wants to play for. This has been rumored before.

So look at the contenders around and look at it from that context. KC definitely would be a situation that gives him the opportunity to have a big statistical, highly visible year.

Is it likely? Shit, I wouldn’t say that. But it would make sense and is feasible if he decides to take that one-year deal at a lower rate with a contender.

I don't think this is a realistic scenario. Clowney's already turned down $18.5 million per year from Seattle and he's turned down Cleveland among other teams. The Raiders recently made a huge pitch to him (the numbers haven't been disclosed but it's been reported that it was much higher than any other offer he's received this year) and he hasn't signed with them, either.

I just can't see a scenario in which Clowney agrees to play for the Chiefs for $10-12 million per and even if $12 million was his asking price, half the league would jump into a bidding war, which would most likely leave the Chiefs out in the cold.

I thought I read the Vegas offer was lower than what he had received so far, but longer in terms of years.

The whole scenario is built around the idea of Clowney not getting the long-term deal he wants and deciding to take a one-year shot. That's the key "if."

In that circumstance, what would he prioritize - straight money OR the best setup for him to have a crazy year and increase his market value?

There seems to be varying reports about the Raiders and Clowney, with some saying it's less dollars and others saying it's more dollars than he's been offered to date, so it's a bit difficult to decode.

I'm with you and would absolutely LOVE to see Clowney in KC on a one year deal. I'm sure they could find a few guys that would be happy to renegotiate and push their salaries down the line a bit in order to win another Super Bowl and having Clowney for 19 games would be awesome.

But that said, I have difficulty believing he'd sign a deal worth $10-$12 million when he's currently in his Prime. If he tears a ligament, whether it's an ACL, MCL, PCL, LCL, pectoral muscle or Achilles, he's not only looking at missing some serious time on the football field, his options for signing a long-term deal at age 28 while recovering from surgery would be slim to none.

With that in mind, I think he'd be better off long term by signing with the Seahawks, Raiders or Browns, who are offering in excess of $17.5 million per, instead of $10-$12 million with the Chiefs, especially considering the possibility of an injury ruining his chance for his big second contract payday.

I really hope Lamar is looking down going Hell yeah, my son is awesome!

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Thanks to reputable reporting, I do have some idea. It’s not ironclad but I rely on reputable reporting to give me some idea of what’s coming down the pipeline.

You do the same — you cited reporting that the Raiders offered the most to Clowney. (By the way, the reputable reporting I’ve read disputes that and cites Cleveland as the highest bidder, and that teams as of now have largely rescinded their offers as they’ve grown tired of Clowney’s intransigence.)

Just throwing out a name that could be an equitable player ina player-for-player trade. Sub another name in as you please.

There has been some ballyhooing since Spags arrival that Jones is an imperfect fit in the scheme. I agree that he is, but he’s so damn talented it doesn’t matter, which is why I’d pay him.

But we know Spags is a stickler for what players on his DL should look and how they should play. And if he thinks $20m could be better spent on a player that “fits” versus a player that imperfectly fits, who knows.

Any deal the Chiefs ostensibly sign Clowney to would be a one-year, in my mind. I could go on but I’d only reiterate what Duncan has said throughout the thread.

LMAO

I think, given Reid’s history, it was a valid concern that Veach would be his butt boy. Reid clashes with Dorsey on at least one key decision, and Dorsey was soon ousted.

Though his tenure was imperfect, Dorsey didn’t deserve to be ousted — he was probably the best GM we’ve had before Veach came along. It was reasonable to see this as a power struggle with Reid.

Fortunately, for whatever reasons the Chiefs dismissed Dorsey, they had an even better GM in the wings. What Veach has done the last two seasons has been truly extraordinary.

For whatever reason? Really? How can you not see the difference here?

Veach has been amazing managing the cap. Dorsey was purely a scout...he just could not manage the cap competently.

I agree with the criticism. But let’s be honest: dude was a hell of a scout, and his maneuvering to land us Mahomes was the single greatest draft move in Chiefs (and maybe NFL) history.

I’d say Dorsey was the best GM we’ve had so far, other than Veach, who other than his disastrous 2018 offseason has asserted himself since as the GOAT.