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Buehler445 11-21-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13907963)
I was gonna day just that Buehler. 4 quarters don’t always equal a dollar.

It’s tough but some guys you can’t replace

A more succinct metaphor is two bills don’t always equal $100.

Math people! :D

Buehler445 11-21-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13908072)
I agree if you add Kelce.

Everyone else is expendable.

I’d wager Kelce is on his last contract with KC. He’s making big money now, has concussions, and will be on the downside when his contract expires.

wazu 11-21-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13908072)
I agree if you add Kelce.

Everyone else is expendable.

I’d love to add a few years for Kelce. He’ll be 32, so want to make sure he doesn’t start to break down, but he seems like he could be one of those guys that plays late into his 30s at a high level.

notorious 11-21-2018 09:04 AM

I will take a reduction in offense if we can balance the team.

Can you accept a reduction in offense if it means getting 2 really good players on defense?

Buehler445 11-21-2018 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13908079)
Hill should be the #1 priority this off season. I'd sign him to his second contract but not a 3rd contract. I'd also sign Chris Jones. I think the only way to play defense now is to rush the passer with ball hawking DB's and the new lean Chris Jones is becoming one of the best on the DL in the league.

They don't want to wait till next year for either of them.

Chris Jones is a prime example of what I’m talking about. He’s had a lot of games where he disappears. I get where we are all coming from given our luck with DL but I don’t see the value there. I say that as he has a pretty ridiculous Sack streak on so I’m open to the idea that I may be full of shit.

But if he wants Donald money he needs to get it elsewhere IMO.

notorious 11-21-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13908083)
I’d wager Kelce is on his last contract with KC. He’s making big money now, has concussions, and will be on the downside when his contract expires.

Yeah, I was on the fence a little with Kelce. His style of play lends that he will end up on the cart eventually.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2018 09:11 AM

I think if you tag Ford next year and he replicates what he has done this season so far, you may go ahead and replace Houston’s contract with a new one for him.

But idk if it will be financially feasible at that point or not.

RunKC 11-21-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13908096)
I think if you tag Ford next year and he replicates what he has done this season so far, you may go ahead and replace Houston’s contract with a new one for him.

I think Chris Jones is getting Houston’s money, but I hope they can make it work.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2018 09:15 AM

This whole conversation really makes you appreciate the roster we currently have. Window is wide open.

Gravedigger 11-21-2018 09:19 AM

Franchise Ford. Pay Jones. Pay Hill. Cut Houston, or renegotiate way down. Cut Berry, or settle through a buyout. Focus on Defense and Oline in the draft.

Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13908063)
Coincidentally Belichick hasn’t paid WRs top money as far as I know. Moss and Stalworth were on criminally small contracts and the short white guy crew isn’t making big money.


BB paid Gronk top money -- he was the highest paid TE in the NFL for a while.

Let's face it, other than Moss, the Patriots haven't had a WR that was remotely worth top money. Cooks makes it now, but, I mean, does anything think he's a top 5 WR? He's paid like he is, and he's really good, but he'll never wear a Gold Jacket.

And half of the Patriots run with BB was "old NFL", before all these rules changes that make Hill twice as dangerous as he would've been 10-15 years ago.

I think you MUST keep Hill tbh. 25 and entering his prime, with an elite QB. Those are two big pieces to any championship formula.

Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13908100)
This whole conversation really makes you appreciate the roster we currently have. Window is wide open.


ESPECIALLY while Mahomes is dramatically underpaid. That's alot of spare cheddah to throw around to do things precisely like extend Hill or bring in someone that you think fits a key need.

RunKC 11-21-2018 09:35 AM

Something else to keep in mind is paying our defensive guys and nobody on offense outside of Tyreek/Mahomes.

Look at all the talent Andy is able to find through the draft since he became a coach?

Brian Westbrook
DeSean Jackson
Brett Celek
Jeremy Maclin
DeSean Jackson
Donovan McNabb
Jason Kelce
Travis Kelce
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
LDT

Also a few steals for production like Albert Wilson and Zach Fulton.

Morse and LDT are out and we are fine this year. Coincidence? I think Andy will keep talent on the offense at a low price. It’s the defense that has been worrisome.

BigRedChief 11-21-2018 09:36 AM

Man, I’m getting tired of saying this but it has to be said again.......

the Chiefs have an option year in 2021 to keep Mahomes on his rookie contract. It was a 5 year contract if the Chiefs want that option year.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-21-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13908138)
Man, I’m getting tired of saying this but it has to be said again.......

the Chiefs have an option year in 2021 to keep Mahomes on his rookie contract. It was a 5 year contract if the Chiefs want that option year.

An option that will still probably put his cap hit around or beyond $20M.

You may as well just extend him as fast as possible. Get ahead of it and pay less.


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