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Chief Roundup 03-23-2024 03:30 PM

Should we extend one of our own?
 
Ok, so we have roughly $27 Million in cap space. For easy figures sake we will just take $7 million for draft class and such off the top, leaving us with $20 Million to do something with.
With that part of that $20 Million in cap space should we go ahead and extend Humphrey, Bolton, or Smith?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2024 03:32 PM

I say Bolton and Reid

Nightfyre 03-23-2024 03:45 PM

Probably 5-7M on Donovan Smith or Veteran Tackle
Probably 5M on a backup QB - I propose Tannehill
Probably 5-6M on DE Mike Danna

That's 15-18M and would leave us with 9-12M for the rookie class and cap flexibility throughout the year (although, if Omenihu goes on PUP, doesn't that give us more space for flexibility?)

LoneWolf 03-23-2024 03:56 PM

Sign Donovan Smith. Sign Justin Simmons. Extend Humphrey.

Take BPA in draft.

Win the Super Bowl.

Chris Meck 03-23-2024 04:01 PM

Extending Reid could probably actually get you a little extra cap room, or at least be cap neutral. If they don't, I think it probably speaks to the team figuring on replacing him down the road.

Hoover 03-23-2024 04:06 PM

No, unless it saves us money.

I'm not extending anyone just to extend them. A lot can happen in a year.

Kman34 03-23-2024 04:08 PM

I wouldn’t extend Creed until he figures out how to snap the ball at Patrick’s waist instead of his shoe tops…

frozenchief 03-23-2024 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17455930)
Ok, so we have roughly $27 Million in cap space. For easy figures sake we will just take $7 million for draft class and such off the top, leaving us with $20 Million to do something with.
With that part of that $20 Million in cap space should we go ahead and extend Humphrey, Bolton, or Smith?

Definitely Humphrey. I don’t know when we can. He’s a second rounder so maybe we can’t extend until later. It we definitely need to extend him and Smith and Bolton if at all possible.

Basileus777 03-23-2024 04:58 PM

Other than Bolton I'm not sure who the team would want to extend. Creed and Trey Smith are going to be too expensive.

Megatron96 03-23-2024 05:06 PM

i would wait to extend Justin Reid, tbh. He's 27 (or going to be soon) for one thing. He's never been particularly good in coverage, and that fact probably will be more exposed in 2024 without Sneed out there to help camouflage that shortcoming. Now, if he shows that he can be better in coverage this coming season, then maybe extend him.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-23-2024 05:13 PM

Yeah, I'm all for bringing back the OL that won us a Superbowl and especially Bolton. Having a solid group of LB's has been a key to our success.

Nightfyre 03-23-2024 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17455996)
Extending Reid could probably actually get you a little extra cap room, or at least be cap neutral. If they don't, I think it probably speaks to the team figuring on replacing him down the road.

Yea, it looked pretty cap neutral when I was messing with it in OTC. But he is 28 now, so they may age him out - not sure where they sit with Safeties, specifically.

Chief Roundup 03-23-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17456006)
No, unless it saves us money.

I'm not extending anyone just to extend them. A lot can happen in a year.

We would not do it just because we can. :facepalm: We would do it because every position gets a little more expensive the next year. Plus players might and usually take a little less if they are signed a year early. It also leaves us not in a situation where we have 3 stars and one tag.

wheeler08 03-23-2024 05:24 PM

I didn't think about Tannehill. That's a good idea

Bump 03-23-2024 05:25 PM

Tannehill would definitely be the backup of choice for me too. Unless Giga Chad Henne wants to come out of retirement.

Chief Roundup 03-23-2024 05:26 PM

I am torn on Creed. He is awesome and I would love to have him but he will be expensive and we have been able to draft the C position fairly well.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-23-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17456088)
I am torn on Creed. He is awesome and I would love to have him but he will be expensive and we have been able to draft the C position fairly well.

Actually , yes , you're right. Love Creed but he is replaceable. Just like Mitch Morse was.

tyecopeland 03-23-2024 05:33 PM

I'm out on Tannehill. I'd rather have Carson wentz over Tannehill.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-24-2024 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17456088)
I am torn on Creed. He is awesome and I would love to have him but he will be expensive and we have been able to draft the C position fairly well.

With Guards getting paid this FA season, Creed could be a very effective guard at a discount, especially with his snap issues.

Sofa King 03-24-2024 03:05 PM

Creed had a hand injury, that's why the snaps were the way they were

BigRedChief 03-24-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17456007)
I wouldn’t extend Creed until he figures out how to snap the ball at Patrick’s waist instead of his shoe tops…

This! Love me some creed but it happens way too often. He doesn’t roll that back to Mahomes, it’s a TD to Rice and we win the SB without overtime.

loochy 03-24-2024 03:47 PM

Nah, trade them all for 2025 4th rounders

BWillie 03-24-2024 04:57 PM

If we didnt extend Sneed or even let him play the year on the tag so we can extend Creed Im gonna lose it

Bump 03-24-2024 05:28 PM

we've really only extended Mahomes, Jones and Kelce. It's not the Veach way

Bump 03-24-2024 05:28 PM

But I fully expect them to extend McDuffie, that dude is something special and that's what it takes to get an extension in KC.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-24-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17456770)
If we didnt extend Sneed or even let him play the year on the tag so we can extend Creed Im gonna lose it

He had a hand injury going on. Was brought to light yesterday.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-24-2024 05:46 PM

We should and will.

I expect Creed, Bolton, and Butker to get deals this offseason.

While I hope we can keep Justin Reid beyond this year, they will not extend him yet. It’s because the safety market is so down that I don’t think he can get his $14m per year salary even on the open market now. But he is very unlikely to accept any less than that this offseason since it’s his current salary. And then if he takes a step back or Conner gets better, you may just move on.

Hoover 03-24-2024 05:59 PM

I'd sign Creed because he's going to be cheaper than Tre Smith, which is nuts to me.

If you found yourself in the draft with a good center available you take him and slide Creed to guard. I'd wait on doing anything with Bolton, love the player but not at the price people are talking. All that said, if I'm Veach I'm drafting a guard and LB in this draft.

RunKC 03-24-2024 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17456803)
We should and will.

I expect Creed, Bolton, and Butker to get deals this offseason.

While I hope we can keep Justin Reid beyond this year, they will not extend him yet. It’s because the safety market is so down that I don’t think he can get his $14m per year salary even on the open market now. But he is very unlikely to accept any less than that this offseason since it’s his current salary. And then if he takes a step back or Conner gets better, you may just move on.

Don’t think they’ll take any more money that way. Karlaftis, Bolton, McDuffie are the future leaders on defense. Lot of money will go into those 3 from 2027-2029

Nickhead 03-24-2024 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17456007)
I wouldn’t extend Creed until he figures out how to snap the ball at Patrick’s waist instead of his shoe tops…

And without crossing the neutral zone with his head every play as the ball is snapped.

Chief Roundup 03-24-2024 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17456770)
If we didnt extend Sneed or even let him play the year on the tag so we can extend Creed Im gonna lose it

Most of us know you lost it long ago...... :LOL:

Sofa King 03-24-2024 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17456808)
I'd sign Creed because he's going to be cheaper than Tre Smith, which is nuts to me.

If you found yourself in the draft with a good center available you take him and slide Creed to guard. I'd wait on doing anything with Bolton, love the player but not at the price people are talking. All that said, if I'm Veach I'm drafting a guard and LB in this draft.

Creed quarterbacks the offensive line. Leave him there. He had a hurt hand affecting his snaps, he'll be fine.

Kman34 03-25-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17456683)
Creed had a hand injury, that's why the snaps were the way they were

Where did you see this because I can’t find anything to backup your claim..

SD15 03-25-2024 05:28 PM

Despite the snap concerns from the outside world, it doesn't bother head coach Andy Reid. Speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine on Tuesday, Reid said he isn't one bit worried about Humphrey in that regard.

Related video: Andy Reid talks at the 2024 NFL Combine (KMBC Kansas City)

Yeah, listen, Creed is a diligent, diligent player," Reid said. "He'll take care of that. I'm not worried about that. He's a relentless worker, and we'll get all that taken care of."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ps/ar-BB1j04EM

Megatron96 03-25-2024 05:34 PM

Meh. Jason Kelce wasn't ever the most accurate snapper and it didn't hurt the team or his career as far as I could tell. At least they're all consistently low. If he was jerking them 3 yards over Pat's head/way off to one side I'd be a lot more concerned.

BigRedChief 03-26-2024 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17456091)
Actually , yes , you're right. Love Creed but he is replaceable. Just like Mitch Morse was.

We have let our starting centers walk after their initial contract ended. He cant get the ball to Mahomes, as much as I love the guy, we will move on because we cant keep everyone.


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