"George Kittle is the best TE in the NFL"
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He’s a better blocker but that is the only thing he’s better at.
And who really gives a damn about that in today’s game when Kelce doesn’t even need to block much to score tons of points. |
One word: Bullshit
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Yeah, no. People need to stop that noise altogether.
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No way.
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I’ve never bought that
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naw, #87 is/was/will always be...
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Zeus
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Tar syrup
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And Lamar Jackson is the best QB. We’re just fooked.
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Trying to talk about blocking comparing TEs is hilarious. It's like talking about corners playing the run. It's just a cop-out. No one cares and it doesn't matter.
Kittle is legit, but Kelce is still the king. Not a doubt in my mind. |
Fake news
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That bum had 16 yards yesterday. Lmao. But his blocking!!!
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nope.
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Kelce dropped that pass and then literally destroyed the Texans the rest of the game. Dude is the best TE in the league and it’s not really close.
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Yeah I got tired of that shit yesterday
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He's a close #2, but nah. Kelce is better.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> I reported that there has been no movement between the <a href="https://twitter.com/49ers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@49ers</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/gkittle46?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gkittle46</a> on a contract extension since some preliminary discussions in February. Kittle's agent, Jack Bechta: "I don't care about the tight end market. I'm being paid to do a George Kittle deal."</p>— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1266511373116137473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Dude's a ****ing baller. Who cares if some talking head thinks he's better than Kelce? Hell, there are some game days he clearly is. Doesn't take anything away from Kelce. Same thing when someone says "so and so is better than Mahomes."
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Kittle: 3 seasons, 216 recs, 2945 yds, 13.6 avg, 12 TDs.
Kelce: 6 seasons, 507 recs, 6465 yds, 12.8 avg, 37 TDs. So if we double Kittle's stats to make it fair, it would be 432, 5990, 24. Let's cut the shit. Kelce > Kittle. |
West of the Rockies, perhaps.
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Kelce will go down as the GOAT. Even over Tony G.
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He's a great player, no doubt. And watching those mic'd up segments in the SB made me like him quite a bit.
Too bad he was born to be a loser. Playing for Corn East U and now catching inaccurate balls from Janeane Garafalo. |
Kittle trails Kelce in all categories over the past three seasons.
I even gave him the benefit of the doubt and compared his first three seasons with Kelce's (after his injury-ended rookie season) and outside of 100 more yards he STILL trails Kelce in all the stats. The whole "he's more complete" and "he's a better blocker", even if true, don't overcome Kelce's superior abilities everywhere else. And FWIW I saw Kelce make some fine blocks last year... |
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It would be fun to have both in a 2 TE set.... BUT..... I do not see Kelce screaming for the most money ever at his position. I do not see anyone on this team doing that besides Clark. Maybe Frank just wanted one ring and then make the big monies. Cannot blame anyone for doing that but that is not going to work out with Mahomes on the roster.
Great problems to have. |
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Kittle's blocking is great. But it was still awesome to see the Chiefs challenge him like they did. Breeland ran though his block and Clark threw him like a ragdoll on the Chiefs first defensive play. Kittle was still deadly on swing runs and bodied Sorenson repeatedly through the game.
Another excellent move by Spags was constantly sending a blitzer to Kittle (Spags didn't even seem to care about beating him, just keeping him engaged on the 49ers penultimate drive to keep him blocking in the backfield). Kyle deserves more heat than he's received for keeping Kittle in the backfield on multiple instances of that last drive. It's a huge win for the Chiefs every time Kittle isn't targeted on that last drive, and Spags made sure he wasn't going to get targets. |
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He's good, no doubt. But if he wanted to be the best he better get his butt over to the team that has Patrick Mahomes slinging the rock.
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It's really simple. We have the best QB, TE and WR in the game. Anyone that says otherwise is ****ing wrong.
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Kelce missed his rookie season, too.
And had to play with ****ing Alex Smith. |
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Kittle is the best TE in the NFL currently WITHOUT a Super Bowl ring maybe.
But the best overall... https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/sa...e-c6f600bda057 |
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No he's not. Awesome push off to get away from Sorenson
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In 10 years when Kelce retires we will looking at him as the GOAT
Greatest Of All Time Mark my words Edit—Greatest of all time at the Tight End position. |
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As a receiver, he's a total stud. My only complaint there, is he doesn't dominate in the red zone, but that could be a scheme thing, or that defenses are selling out on him. Solid blocker, but not the best of the best. Regardless, he's perfect for this offense. |
Travis Kelce
HOF SB Winner A Man of Great Taste. No one better. |
I love the kid.
Wish he was on the Chiefs. |
If I were his agent, I think the realistic approach would be to give him an average of the top WR (Julio Jones, $22M per year), top OT (Laremy Tunsil, $22M per), and top TE (Austin Hooper, $10.5M per) salaries. That equates to around $18M per year. Trying to shoot for top WR pay for him is too much of a stretch.
The market for TE's is going up though, unlike RB's that are staying stale if not lowering, because the TE has become the more Kittle-esque and is more needed in today's NFL to have a great TE rather than a great RB. Kittle isn't one of the best receivers, but you can argue his blocking is second to none. |
Kittle is an excellent player but Kelce could truly be the best receiving TE ever. Kelce was tailor made for this league while Kittle was made more for 10 years ago.
I do t think there has ever been a TE that was as athletic and gifted running routes as Kelce |
The Kelce “wiggle” at the top of his routes is the NFL version of Hakeem’s Dream Shake.
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great player. team has peaked. bye
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Oh my favorite lines from the SB LOSS - "I will be back" ROFLROFLROFL
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Kittle needs to take less so Kelce can take less
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Hell no.
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Kittle is where Kelce was when Gronk was at his peak. Kittle is a star that is definitely rising and in a couple of years will be the best TE assuming he does not get hurt and Shanarat quits crapping the bed.
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I love Kelce, and his expanded route tree trumps Kittle's blocking by a mile.
But, Tony Gonzalez is currently number 3 on the All-Time Receptions list. Not for Tight Ends, but for every position. In the history of the NFL. He was number 2 behind Jerry Rice, and now he is number 3 behind Rice and Larry Fitzgerald. Even though TG did play in Dick Vermeil's offense, he also played in Marty's offense too. Teams were not nearly as pass happy as they are now, and he still made it as high as number 2 All-Time. If Kelce puts up a few more 1000 yard seasons, and racks up a couple more all-pro awards and another ring or two, he could be the best ever. But, it's not a done deal like so many seem to think. Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk |
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Tony G: 270 games, 1325 rec, 15127 yds, 11.4 ypc 111 TDs. Average per game with mostly crap QBs: 5 rec, 56 yds, 0.4 TDs.
Rob Gronkowski: 115 games, 521 rec, 7861 yds, 15.1 ypc, 79 TDs. Average per game with one of the GOAT QBs: 4.5 rec, 68 yds, 0.4 TDs. George Kittle: 45 games, 216 rec, 2945 yds, 13.6 ypc, 12 TDs. Average per game with mostly crap QBs: 4.8 rec, 65.4 yds, 0.25 TDs. Travis Kelce: 96 games, 507 rec, 6465 yds, 12.8 ypc, 37 TDs. Average per game with mostly crap QBs until recently: 5.28 rec, 67.3 yds, 0.385 TDs. Average receptions per game, in order: Kelce, Tony G, Kittle, Gronk Average yards per game, in order: Gronk, Kelce, Kittle, Tony G (but Gronk played with a GOAT and the others didn't) Average yards per catch, in order: Gronk, Kittle, Kelce, Tony G Average TDs per game, in order: Gronk/Tony G, Kelce, Kittle (last by a wide margin, which is worse because guys like Gronk and Kelce have to share the ball with other great pass-catchers) Putting them in finishing order per category, where your total is "lowest is best": Gronk's positioning: 4, 1, 1, 1T -- total of 7 Kelce's positioning: 1, 2, 3, 3 -- total of 9 Tony G's positioning: 2, 4, 4, 1T -- total of 11 Kittle's positioning: 3, 3, 2, 4 -- total of 12 But we have to knock Gronk down a bit for playing his whole career with Brady. Although he and Kittle do get some extra credit for blocking--Gronk more so, in my opinion. So what does all this mean? Personally, to me it means that Kelce is better than people give him credit for. A lot better. I think in his career, if he can stay healthy, he's going to be right up there with Gronk and above Tony G as one of the GOATs. Kittle? He's good but, honestly, there are a lot of good young TEs in the league right now. Kittle didn't even finish #1 in any of those average categories, and only had one #2 spot (YPC). |
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I can take or leave his corn
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I'd rather choose Bell over Kittle. I was kinda disappointed he was traded to Dallas.
Kittle is way overrated. He's just an average TE who fits quite nicely in the 49ers offense IMHO, hence his figures. |
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Kittle is dam good. Hard not to like the kid.
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May be blaspheme, but I was thinking the other day that Kittle has a right to be considered better than Kelce, as his blocking is far superior.
Kelce has a right to be considered better than Kittle, as he is a more dynamic receiver. It's splitting hairs. They're both amazing. Kittle + Kelce and then there's the field. |
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Kittle's a YAC monster as well. I believe he led the league in YAC in 2018.
One of my favorite plays from the 2019 season: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OrneryIdea...restricted.gif |
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For right now, which is really what the OP is about, Kittle is damn good and probably a better blocker than Kelce. He's still not as good a receiver as Kelce. If they ran a pass heavy offense and he was getting doubled up constantly, the route running would be more apparent. |
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I'm just glad we got the one that showed up in the super bowl.
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Watch his right leg/knee as #22 brings him down. A regular dude's knee might have been shredded. |
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Kittle - 8.3 Kelce - 6.2 Gronk - 6.2 Gonzo - 3.9 |
Madden declares Kittle #1
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kittle and Kelce go 1-2 in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Madden21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Madden21</a> TE overall ratings <a href="https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EAMaddenNFL</a> <a href="https://t.co/GoUvxGCswC">pic.twitter.com/GoUvxGCswC</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1284171816903356416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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