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IT remake 2017 (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=300848)

Again, the only reason to do this is that you feel you can improve on the original.

Name one person, ON ALL THE EARTH, more creepy than Tim Curry...

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12323386)

Holy shit. I don't even understand why he would put that in there. Never read the book, and what a horrific ending.

It's not actually the ending. It's towards the end of the part that takes place in 1958 when the main characters are still children. The actual ending takes place when they are all adults.

Here's what King says about that part:

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I wasn't really thinking of the sexual aspect of it. The book dealt with childhood and adulthood --1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don't remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children--we think we do, but we don't remember it as it really happened. Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It's another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children's library and the adult library.

I found another post by someone that expanded on that and I tend to agree with his ideas:

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The force which is helping the Losers (in very much a Heaven helps those who help themselves kind of way) selects them as the perfect vessels to fight Pennywise (It) because of their youth and imagination. This other force provides them with an unnatural clarity a fast forward on their resolve and calculation as adults. They aren't just little kids (which is useful as king because isn't a little kid when he writes it); they are kids who have been bolstered by a force which allows them to straddle the line of adulthood and kids more fully than is normal. The magic of this other, protective force is allowing them to be kids with some adult strengths at the same time. This is true when they return as adults. It allows them to be adults with some of the strengths of kids. This magic is a very fragile thing which withdraws immediately as they wound and drive off It the first time. There are clearly some kind of cosmic rules in play for how much the "Other" can help them versus how much they can help themselves. This brings us to reason #2. When It is beaten (but not killed) by the Losers as children, the bolstering force departs. They are becoming just kids again, which means that the situation is overwhelming. They have lost an adult's focus and resolve. Panic is setting in. The bond that binds them together is falling apart. There is another bond between them all, as strong. It is their love for Bev and hers for them. What they need (require in fact) is to somehow maintain that adult clarity until they are out of the sewers so they don't die down there. Beverly channels that bond between them (and she has her own reasons as well) in a primitive, primal way. It is old magic. For better or for worst, we must not forget that children as young as ten to twelve were considered adults during the Middle Ages and having/raising children (if they survived). Our modern sensibilities are simply that, i.e. modern. Biology and magic transcend sensibilities. Beverly grabs hold of that magical force by overlaying it with one of her own. It works in the same way ancient sex rituals the world over were believed to have worked. King wasn't writing the episode just to write it. There is specific meaning and history to the magic. More to the point, had he censored it and had Bev go around and give them all a kiss like the Prince that wakes Cinderella, we the Constant Readers would have sensed the dishonesty immediately. You need more than kid's stuff to keep the adult part awake. So #2 ties in with #1 in that you need an appropriate magical ritual to achieve an appropriate effect that comes across honest to the reader. Censoring it would smell ripe in Denmark.

Seeing how I like to exhaust a topic, I'll go for a third reason. Three is, after all, one of the magic numbers. I'm going to play with rhetoric just a bit because I like being specific. Their antics in the sewer aren't an orgy. They are not all mutually involved at the same time. It isn't about that kind of sex for sex's sake act. Your portrayal of it in that manner is both incorrect and calculated. An orgy as part of magical ritual would be more appropriate historically in a fertility ritual like they had in ancient Mesopotamia. That wasn't going on in Derry's sewers. There was nothing dirty about the act. There was nothing in it which was intended to be lascivious either. In fact, their actions were emotional and clean even while everything outside and around them was dirty (they were in a sewer after all). There is that old saying, "where ever you go... there you are," and whenever someone reacts in a purely negative way to this scene in the book I always have to wonder about them. Why are all the other, profound implications and meanings invisible or irrelevant? It says far more about those who react with revulsion than those who seek to find greater meaning in it. No one is reading that section of the book for a sexual thrill. Bev has two reasons for her actions, and she is the instigator (make no mistake). She seeks to save their lives using a tool she alone has come to understand because of her disjointed home life. Her second reason is to wipe away the unclean stain that Pennywise (It) has placed on her sexuality when it manipulated her father. To be fair, her father was staining it by himself even before the monster pushed it further. Bev is saving their lives and trying to wipe her own slate clean by empowering herself. There is no degradation in her act. She isn't being used by the others. There are a lot of layers to this scene and I think we cannot discount that Bev, who hasn't lost that adult resolve as fast as the others, is doing some cold calculation to achieve several ends. That is, after all, what all the Losers discovered about adulthood. Bev takes the genuine love felt by the group and channels it in a way which all of them understand is purely adult. It is a ritualistic act intended to hold on to their receding adult magic. She empowers herself and through that act she empowers them. Again, going back to reasons #1 and #2... would a simple kiss have sufficed? What watered down, Leave It To Beaver replacement would have rung true to our ears?

I re-read the book recently and the endings (1958 and present) actually seemed more cohesive than I remembered from when I read the book when I was younger. I had missed a lot of the mystical parts with the Turtle, apparently.

http://comicbook.com/2016/08/12/step...ranger-things/

Netflix's Stranger Things has earned rave reviews from critics and viewers alike, because it perfectly captures the look and feel of classic sci-fi and coming-of-age films from the '70s and '80s. That includes Stand by Me, a 1986 film directed by Rob Reiner and based on Stephen King's 1982 novella The Body. You can also make the case that some elements are inspired by Stephen King's IT.

I guess why it isn't too surprising to hear Dan Lin, a producer of the feature film adaptation of IT, comparing the upcoming film to Stranger Things.

“I think a great analogy is actually Stranger Things, and we’re seeing it on Netflix right now,” Lin told Collider. “It’s very much an homage to ’80s movies, whether it’s classic Stephen King or even Spielberg. Think about Stand by Me as far as the bonding amongst the kids. But there is a really scary element in Pennywise.”

IT began filming in late-June, spending most of its time on the young cast, but according to Lin, it's time to send in the terrifying, shapeshifting clown. Taking on Pennywise, a role made famous by Tim Curry (Clue), will be Hemlock Grove star Bill Skarsgard.

“His build is really interesting; he’s really tall and lanky, and feels a little clown like in his movement,” Lin said of Skarsgard. “When he came in — we had a lot of different actors read, and when he came in he had a different spin on the character that got us really excited. You’ve had Heath Ledger doing almost a clown joker, you’ve seen obviously Tim Curry as a clown. We wanted someone who created a Pennywise character that would stand on its own and Bill came in and created this character that frankly freaked us out.”

IT is about a group of childhood friends who reunite in their small home town in Maine to once again confront an evil entity that they thought they had destroyed 30 years earlier.

The cast features Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise, Javier Botet as The Leper, Jaeden Lieberher as Bill Denbrough, Jeremy Ray Taylor as Ben Hanscom, Sophia Lillis as Beverly Marsh, Finn Wolfhard as Richie Tozier, Jack Dylan Grazer as Eddie Kaspbrak, Chosen Jacobs as Mike Hanlon, Wyatt Oleff as Stanley Uris, Nicholas Hamilton as Henry Bowers, Owen Teague as Patrick Hockstetter, and Logan Thompson as Victor Criss.

The film is being directed by Mama-helmer, Andrés Muschietti.

IT will float into theaters September 8th, 2017.

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"The cast features Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise, Javier Botet as The Leper, Jaeden Lieberher as Bill Denbrough, Jeremy Ray Taylor as Ben Hanscom, Sophia Lillis as Beverly Marsh, Finn Wolfhard as Richie Tozier, Jack Dylan Grazer as Eddie Kaspbrak, Chosen Jacobs as Mike Hanlon, Wyatt Oleff as Stanley Uris, Nicholas Hamilton as Henry Bowers, Owen Teague as Patrick Hockstetter, and Logan Thompson as Victor Criss."

That casting actually looks fantastic.

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12364561)

Between this and Dark Tower I'm very excited

Does anyone know where I can find the original for free perhaps? I can't remember it really, but I do remember that it was the only horror anything, even to this day, that scared me.

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12365133)

Does anyone know where I can find the original for free perhaps? I can't remember it really, but I do remember that it was the only horror anything, even to this day, that scared me.

It's one of those "must own" dvd's for me. Classic growing up as a kid. I use to do his voice spot on.

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I really hope they do the book justice. The mini-series had its moments but ended up being kinda campy.

One of my favorite parts of the book was when it flashed back to Mike Hanlon's dad when he was stationed at the army base in Derry. I hope they include that.

They need to go in depth with Pennywise. Explain how long It's been around and really give the character some backstory.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 12365685)

Haven't read a King book since for close to 15 years. I always found his method of story telling unnecessarily long-winded and his endings so abrupt and anti-climatic it's like his publisher knocked on the door and said "OK, times up!" and he had to quick make something up.

I might have to try "It" based on your responses. I do recall enjoying "The Shining" quiet a bit now that I recall.

If it sucks there will be hell to pay Gonzo! Hell, I say!!!! :cuss:

Just looking at the cover image, I don't have much hope. It will probably be a cgi fest with tons of special effects, annoying celebrities, and forced scare tactics.

The beauty of IT as originally done was simplicity and subtlety. I can't imagine we'll see either in the remake.

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12365660)

It's one of those "must own" dvd's for me. Classic growing up as a kid. I use to do his voice spot on.

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Just bought it, thanks.

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12368721)

Just bought it, thanks.

No problem.

That miniseries scared the ever-loving **** out of me. I've never been so terrified in my life, and I've hated clowns ever since.

It could have a Katy Perry bukakke scene in it and I still don't think I'd watch it.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12368758)

I think there's a time in every guys life, where you have to man up. I think in this situation you'd have to man up. Put your fears to the side and man the **** up.

every time i see this thread, i think of the IT crowd. i dont see the letters as the word 'it' :D