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Rain Man 03-27-2024 08:55 PM

Arkansas' or Arkansas's
 
Okay, I want to test this in a poll. Look in the fallen bridge thread for background.

Which is your preferred grammar? See the poll.

BWillie 03-27-2024 08:56 PM

I don't know but I think there is inbreeding involved

WhawhaWhat 03-27-2024 08:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arkansas&#39; is correct. For singular proper names ending in S, use only an apostrophe: Achilles&#39; heel. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ACESchat?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ACESchat</a> <a href="https://t.co/8yqGadgLl2">https://t.co/8yqGadgLl2</a></p>&mdash; APStylebook (@APStylebook) <a href="https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/753325020173197312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 08:59 PM

It's Arkansas' because it's a proper name that ends in s.

Why Not? 03-27-2024 09:17 PM

Who?

2bikemike 03-27-2024 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17460155)
It's Arkansas' because it's a proper name that ends in s.

I agree.

Now for a fun fact. Did you know the toothbrush was invented in Arkansas? If it had been invented anywhere else it would've been called a teethbrush! :D

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 17460171)
I agree.

Now for a fun fact. Did you know the toothbrush was invented in Arkansas? If it had been invented anywhere else it would've been called a teethbrush! :D

Lol.

Arkansas is typically ranked in the mid-40s in education.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 09:44 PM

So we all seem to be of like mind. Why does the State of Arkansas disagree with us, per Chitownchiefsfan's post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan (Post 17460134)
Apparently Arkansas passed a bill declaring it to be Arkansas's

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2007/...sass-statutes/


RollChiefsRoll 03-27-2024 09:50 PM

Chicago Manual of Style and Supreme Court would say Arkansas’s. Pretty good writers at those spots.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 09:55 PM

So are we the idiots?

I can't imagine that we're the idiots.

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17460183)
So we all seem to be of like mind. Why does the State of Arkansas disagree with us, per Chitownchiefsfan's post?

If you read the article it's because of gov of the time, 2007, and some historian saying that it should be apostrophe s because the s is silent when you pronounce Arkansas. But the grammarital rule isn't based on pronunciation it's based on the spelling of the word. So like I said; lower end of the spectrum in education.

tk13 03-27-2024 10:05 PM

Arkansases.

DaFace 03-27-2024 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17460194)
If you read the article it's because of gov of the time, 2007, and some historian saying that it should be apostrophe s because the s is silent when you pronounce Arkansas. But the grammarital rule isn't based on pronunciation it's based on the spelling of the word. So like I said; lower end of the spectrum in education.

Sytlebooks conflict, but I was taught that it's a matter of singular vs plural, not just whether it ends with an S. Arkansas is singular, so the correct (albeit clunky) way would be to use Arkansas's.

A parallel would be, "I'm going to my friend Wes's house" rather than, "Wes' house."

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17460200)
Sytlebooks conflict, but I was taught that it's a matter of singular vs plural, not just whether it ends with an S. Arkansas is singular, so the correct (albeit clunky) way would be to use Arkansas's.

A parallel would be, "I'm going to my friend Wes's house" rather than, "Wes' house."

If Arkansas wasn't a proper noun then it would be apostrophe s regardless of the word ending in an s. Since it's a proper noun the general correct spelling regardless of style books or style guides is Arkansas'.

DaFace 03-27-2024 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17460203)
If Arkansas wasn't a proper noun then it would be apostrophe s regardless of the word ending in an s. Since it's a proper noun the general correct spelling regardless of style books or style guides is Arkansas'.

Nah. There are differences.

https://grammarist.com/punctuation/a...s-ending-in-s/


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