I've never thought of Rivers as top 5. Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger were all better than him IMO. There was always some other QB you could throw into the mix as well during that time.

Rivers kind of reminds me of Romo

That's an interesting comparison, but I agree that your last sentence tells the story. Rivers did it in an era when Manning*, Brees, and that patriot guy* were far above him. No one was above Marino in his era.



* - Some cheating involved.

Yep. And while I wouldn't vote for either of them, I'd vote for Rivers easily over Manning because Rivers played for a team that Manning was afraid to go to. Rivers manned up when Manning ran crying to his daddy.

Dane, even you could have run for north of 1,000 yards and 15 TDs behind that Chiefs OL. It was perhaps the best OL ever assembled.

A Smith or Sanders would have gone for 2500 yards on the ground and likely even more TDs.

I'd rather have Romo than Rivers.

Yeah, looking back at the stats, you're probably right. He wasn't often top 5, though there were maybe three or four seasons in which I'd argue he was. Generally, top 8 would be a better billing for him.

But the rules during Rivers career were favoring the offense pretty heavily comparative to Marinos time, and I think that hurts Rivers more so than people realize. There was a reason why Rivers bitched every time a play didn't go his way, I don't remember seeing Marino cry that much during his career to get calls to go his way.

In terms of Hall of Fame status I would say that Eli deserves to get in on his Super Bowls and Playoff record alone, and will likely get in, however with Rivers I think he should have to wait awhile. He's close enough to Marino to warrant him getting in eventually, and they'll shove him in first ballot and say he's the next Dan Marino, but Phillip Rivers isn't Dan Marino, imo he should have to wait for a ballot or two to pass before he gets in.

They'll desperately try to play off Rivers, Eli and Big Ben's year as the closest to 1983 that you can get, and that is technically true as it hasn't been seen since that time, but I'll take John, Jim and Dan over Eli, Ben and Phillip any day of the week.

I don't think Rivers was good enough to overcome his lack of playoff success. King of the wild card round and not much else...whoop de doo. If eli gets in, frank clark and sammy watkins should also get in.

I'd put Drew Bledsoe into the HOF before Phyllis... which is more of an indictment of Phyllis' candidacy.

At least Bledsoe had some postseason success... leading the Faketriots to the Super Bowl under Parcells.

The only way Rivers gets in is if his luck changes. Dude must have been born under a ladder in a room full of broken mirrors and black cats. Nobody could find ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory quite like the Phyllis-led Chargers. All the talented teams he was on and they couldn't win shit.

That victory formation fumble against us kind of sums up his career.

Although I don't believe either player should be inducted, I have no doubt both will be inducted. Frank Gore will get in as well.

Does anyone not see Rivers and Manning both getting in?

He retired in the offseason, so the only way his luck is changing is that he'll likely never choke away a game again. But it's still possible that he'll be on the sidelines as a guest and will accidentally trip a Charger who's running for a winning touchdown.

LMAO

He's the football version of Bad Luck Schleprock.

He's a high school football HC now so he has new ways of choking, both as a coach and teaching a new generation of future chokers.