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BigRedChief 08-08-2020 10:14 AM

Hill and Hardman had a 40 & 60 yard race today
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me and <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cheetah</a> raced today, who y’all think won? We did 40yds and the 60yds 👀👀</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1292124463736205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coogs 08-08-2020 10:41 AM

You've piqued my interest. I'm guessing since Hardman posted the tweet, that Hardman may have won both?

Direckshun 08-08-2020 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15105304)
You've piqued my interest. I'm guessing since Hardman posted the tweet, that Hardman may have won both?

That’s where my money is.

lcarus 08-08-2020 11:13 AM

Don't know but I'm sure it was pretty close.

Cosmos 08-08-2020 11:16 AM

Don’t know who won, but I can’t think of any WR that gets in and out of his cuts quicker than Hill.

It’s all about separation.

CervezaChill 08-08-2020 11:19 AM

In football gear - Hill.

Without it - who knows, they both fast.

BossChief 08-08-2020 12:13 PM

Hopefully he keeps running when the play breaks down, going forward.

kcxiv 08-08-2020 12:15 PM

He said Tyreke won.

BigRedChief 08-08-2020 12:21 PM

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Na He Won�� <a href="https://t.co/Shazk7knfj">https://t.co/Shazk7knfj</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1292161773848662019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-08-2020 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105286)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me and <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cheetah</a> raced today, who y’all think won? We did 40yds and the 60yds 👀👀</p>&mdash; Mecole Hardman Jr. (@MecoleHardman4) <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4/status/1292124463736205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The best response I saw on Twitter was "Coach Reed".

Yeah, I'd say Andy's the winner whoever came across the line first.

BigRedChief 08-08-2020 12:23 PM

Wheres the damn video? These guys off today?

Direckshun 08-08-2020 12:36 PM

I’d take the younger Hardman any day of the week in a pure footrace.

Hill has unreal speed but it’s his unearthly short area quickness and football intelligence that make him a special football player.

Jerok 08-08-2020 12:41 PM

Mecole Said Ty won, then Ty said Mecole won. Maybe they split.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Na He Won😌 <a href="https://t.co/Shazk7knfj">https://t.co/Shazk7knfj</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1292161773848662019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tribal Warfare 08-08-2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 15105430)
Mecole Said Ty won, then Ty said Mecole won. Maybe they split.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Na He Won�� <a href="https://t.co/Shazk7knfj">https://t.co/Shazk7knfj</a></p>&mdash; Ty Hill (@cheetah) <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah/status/1292161773848662019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tyreek won, by emoji use deciphering.

Until we get a 3rd party confirmation that's the way I'm taking it

Chiefspants 08-08-2020 01:01 PM

Ty in the 40, Micole in the 60.

dlphg9 08-08-2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15105425)
I’d take the younger Hardman any day of the week in a pure footrace.

Hill has unreal speed but it’s his unearthly short area quickness and football intelligence that make him a special football player.

Hill is only 26. That's like peak age for a sprinter, so not sure why you'd take Mecole.

Hayneplane 08-08-2020 01:51 PM

Tyreek Hill would have been a top 10 200 metres sprinter maybe more if he had stuck with Athletics full time. To have another player in our ranks that can make a foot race with him a genuine contest will strike fear into all opposition cornerbacks and safeties.

Hardman showed some elite qualities last season and with more time in the system learning the playbook and gelling with his superstar QB and fellow legion of zoom members could be the most lethal number 2/3 Wide Receiver in the league.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 08-08-2020 01:53 PM

Hardman made the most of his opportunities last year. He just needs to learn the playbook more

TLO 08-08-2020 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15105501)
Hardman made the most of his opportunities last year. He just needs to learn the playbook more

Or he could just run in a straight line as fast as he can and wait for Pat to chuck him the ball 60 yards downfield.

digger 08-08-2020 02:07 PM

We all won!!!

Dante84 08-08-2020 02:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A few minutes ago, Tyreek Hill posted on his Instagram account his 40-yard dash victory over Mecole Hardman during training camp. <a href="https://t.co/cgRnKONFhx">https://t.co/cgRnKONFhx</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qc28a9fEQk">pic.twitter.com/Qc28a9fEQk</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1292194048787337217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TwistedChief 08-08-2020 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15105425)
I’d take the younger Hardman any day of the week in a pure footrace.

Hill has unreal speed but it’s his unearthly short area quickness and football intelligence that make him a special football player.

It's comments like these that make me miss Ubeja.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15105539)
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LOL, that wasn't even close

Rasputin 08-08-2020 02:30 PM

I'm glad Hardman is brave enough to take on Tyreek I think they push each other a lot and it pushes Tyreek I think he is a great mentor for Hardman.

I think Hardman wants to be great too.

Third Eye 08-08-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105552)
LOL, that wasn't even close

In fairness, it sure looks like Mecole let up when it was clear he wasn’t going to win.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 15105558)
In fairness, it sure looks like Mecole let up when it was clear he wasn’t going to win.

Yeah, on my second viewing, it looks like he gave up around the 10 yard line.

I'm sure he'll receive an earful from Mahomes.

:D

Coogs 08-08-2020 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105571)
Yeah, on my second viewing, it looks like he gave up around the 10 yard line.

I'm sure he'll receive an earful from Mahomes.

:D

I think the 10 was the finish line. It looks like they started on the 50, but I could be mistaken.

Or maybe you meant 10 yards from the finish?

BigRedChief 08-08-2020 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 15105558)
In fairness, it sure looks like Mecole let up when it was clear he wasn’t going to win.

Yeah he let up 30 yards in because it was clear he was going to lose.

Wouldn’t Hill have qualified for the 100 meter dash in the Olympics based on his high school track time

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15105578)
I think the 10 was the finish line. It looks like they started on the 50, but I could be mistaken.

Or maybe you meant 10 yards from the finish?

It's pretty clear to me that they started on the 40 yard line, Mecole slowed down around the 10 and Tyreek put a cap on it on the 5.

Dante84 08-08-2020 02:56 PM

I think Hill was ahead when they were 25 yards in. That's insane.

Coogs 08-08-2020 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105594)
It's pretty clear to me that they started on the 40 yard line, Mecole slowed down around the 10 and Tyreek put a cap on it on the 5.

I think it is the 50 Dane. When they cross the 30, they have already crossed another line marker which has to be the 40. Again, I still could be wrong, but it sure looks to be the case.

Coogs 08-08-2020 03:06 PM

Maybe it is 45 to 5?

Rasputin 08-08-2020 03:20 PM

Doesn't really matter who is fastest between them too but as long as they are both faster than the DBs that chase them is what really matters ;)

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 08-08-2020 03:54 PM

Started at the 50 and 10 was the finish

Tribal Warfare 08-08-2020 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105586)
Yeah he let up 30 yards in because it was clear he was going to lose.

Wouldn’t Hill have qualified for the 100 meter dash in the Olympics based on his high school track time

In high school Tyreek ran a 10.19 in the 100 Meters

Jamaal who went on a dual scholarship at Texas ran a 10.21 in the 100M

BigCatDaddy 08-08-2020 04:03 PM

I'd like to get Ubeja's breakdown of the race.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-08-2020 04:20 PM

Mecole is so smart he's already baiting other teams.

kcxiv 08-08-2020 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15105727)
Mecole is so smart he's already baiting other teams.

Howis he bating other teams? lol Everyone knows dude is still stupid fast, this changes nothing.

TRR 08-08-2020 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15105603)
I think it is the 50 Dane. When they cross the 30, they have already crossed another line marker which has to be the 40. Again, I still could be wrong, but it sure looks to be the case.

Definitely the 50 yard line.

Rain Man 08-08-2020 04:59 PM

I saw a little clip from that Ravens game last year today, and it was the part of the game where Mecole had the 80-plus yard touchdown reception. Earl Thomas was basically that chick in the hot rod movies who throws the flags down to start the race. Mecole blew by him so fast that you could see his jersey flutter in the wind.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 05:04 PM

This is what Hill said on Instagram:

I really had fun today racing my brother in the 50m @mecolehardman4 , we pride ourselves everyday to prove who the fastest guy in our room. Madden I need that 100 speed please ������

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If it was 50 meters, they'd have started on the other side of the field on the 46.

BigCatDaddy 08-08-2020 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105759)
This is what Hill said on Instagram:

I really had fun today racing my brother in the 50m @mecolehardman4 , we pride ourselves everyday to prove who the fastest guy in our room. Madden I need that 100 speed please ������

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If it was 50 meters, they'd have started on the other side of the field on the 46.

So 55 yards? Makes no sense

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15105833)
So 55 yards? Makes no sense

Yep. It would have been nice to have a different angle but oh well.

Kiimo 08-08-2020 05:58 PM

Mecole said on instagram that he almost pulled his hamstring so that's why he probably let up and that's also why this should be the last of these races no matter how awesome they are

Megatron96 08-08-2020 06:17 PM

It was 50 yards, I think Ty accidentally typed the 'm.' They were lined up at the 50; ran to the 10. you can see Hill lean as he reaches the 10 (very typical sprinter's lean at the end of a race), then take his foot off the gas as he crosses it. I think they ran it that way because I think the wall is just a few feet past the back of the endzone. I figure they wanted at least an extra ten yards to be able to slow down instead of getting to the front of the EZ and only having 10 yards and then potentially running into the wall.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15105868)
It was 50 yards, I think Ty accidentally typed the 'm.' They were lined up at the 50; ran to the 10.

That makes it a 40 yard dash

Megatron96 08-08-2020 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105880)
That makes it a 40 yard dash

Sorry, yeah, that's what I meant. It was a 40 yard race, but they started on the 50, for the reasons I stated above.

smithandrew051 08-08-2020 06:33 PM

3 thoughts:

1. These two are very fast
2. They both play football for the Kansas City Chiefs
3 (and best yet). The Kansas City Chiefs are my favorite professional football team in the National Football League

KC Hawks 08-08-2020 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15105883)
3 thoughts:

1. These two are very fast
2. They both play football for the Kansas City Chiefs
3 (and best yet). The Kansas City Chiefs are my favorite professional football team in the National Football League

OH yesss I prefer the Kansas City Chiefs too!

penchief 08-08-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15105555)
I think Hardman wants to be great too.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. From the very beginning Mecole has struck me as someone who loves being in the limelight and is willing to put in the work to achieve success. I think he has a confidence about him that will get him there.

BigRedChief 08-08-2020 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 15105900)
I agree with this wholeheartedly. From the very beginning Mecole has struck me as someone who loves being in the limelight and is willing to put in the work to achieve success. I think he has a confidence about him that will get him there.

and most of us thought he was insurance in case Hill got suspended. But now we know that the Chiefs and the NFL had the tape clearing Hill the whole time. They were just adding more firepower for Mahomes.

kevrunner 08-08-2020 09:13 PM

Terrell Owens and Hardman would be a good race. Tyreek is in a class by himself.

Rasputin 08-08-2020 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105920)
and most of us thought he was insurance in case Hill got suspended. But now we know that the Chiefs and the NFL had the tape clearing Hill the whole time. They were just adding more firepower for Mahomes.

See this is exactly what Veach envisioned i believe when he drafted Mecole. It had little to nothing to do with Tyreek except havining another sppeedster opposite side to run down field.

Although i thiank insurance over Sammy Watkins is more than likely for reason to draft Mecole .


I'm excited for the future of Mecole hne is alryeadyh one of my favoriette Chiefs his kick rerturun was something special againts hte Texaasses

chiefzilla1501 08-08-2020 09:51 PM

Pretty cool idea. Tyreek is quicker. But watch mecole burst on the mahomes jump pass vs Tenn. He did that a few times last year where he gets crazy separation moving from a walk to a sprint. They're fast in really different ways.

Deberg_1990 08-08-2020 10:24 PM

Matt Breida can take both of these guys.

Gravedigger 08-08-2020 11:08 PM

This is the Flash vs Superman.

ThaVirus 08-08-2020 11:32 PM

I need Rich Eisen super imposed for scale.

On a similar note, I loved that commercial where Don Cheadle raced Dante Hall. Cheadle gets dusted and through his huffs and puffs says "And I'm pretty fast" while Hall just scoffs.

Buehler445 08-08-2020 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15105883)
3 thoughts:

1. These two are very fast
2. They both play football for the Kansas City Chiefs
3 (and best yet). The Kansas City Chiefs are my favorite professional football team in the National Football League

4. The Kansas City Chiefs are defending Super Bowl Champions.

srvy 08-08-2020 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15106093)
Matt Breida can take both of these guys.

He is pretty fast but nope!

Rasputin 08-09-2020 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15106111)
This is the Flash vs Superman.

Indeed Tyreek Superman Mecole the Flash

smithandrew051 08-09-2020 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15106148)
4. The Kansas City Chiefs are defending Super Bowl Champions.

GOD PINT!!!!!

ChiefsFanatic 08-09-2020 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 15105900)
I agree with this wholeheartedly. From the very beginning Mecole has struck me as someone who loves being in the limelight and is willing to put in the work to achieve success. I think he has a confidence about him that will get him there.

I said this in another thread, but I will always remember Hardman walking off the field after the Texans game. He wasn't hooping and hollering, even though he sparked the comeback with a great kick-off return, and just looked at the camera, pointed to his head, and said stick around, we have a bigger goal in mind.

I thought that moment showed how mature he was, but it also showed how the front office and coaching staff had this team focused on a singular goal.

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ChiefsFanatic 08-09-2020 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15105425)
I’d take the younger Hardman any day of the week in a pure footrace.

Hill has unreal speed but it’s his unearthly short area quickness and football intelligence that make him a special football player.

Hill does everything fast, whether it's getting off the line, making hard cuts or breaks, or running back to the huddle, etc. I have never seen another human being with his fast twitch muscles engaged in almost every movement he makes. I think it takes Hill about a stride and a half to be at top speed.

Hardman is obviously very fast, but I think it's more top end speed. It takes him maybe 3-4 strides to reach top speed. Someone referenced the catch and run from the Tennessee game, but his long TD against Baltimore is also a good example. On that 3rd and 4th stride he just pulls away from the defenders like they are standing still.

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penguinz 08-09-2020 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15106172)
Indeed Tyreek Superman Mecole the Flash

Flash is a faster runner than Superman.

Coogs 08-09-2020 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15105844)
Mecole said on instagram that he almost pulled his hamstring so that's why he probably let up and that's also why this should be the last of these races no matter how awesome they are

:clap:

BWillie 08-09-2020 10:44 AM

Tyreek ran the 40 in 4.29 seconds at the NFL Combine.
Mecole ran it in 4.33 seconds.

Tyreek is still in his prime. If anything he might be faster now at 26. Once athletes get to be 28 or 29 then the descent can start but no reason to think he is slower than he was in the NFL Combine.

Direckshun 08-09-2020 11:49 AM

It’s insane that Hill crushes Hardman so bad in the first 30 that Hardman just tanks it in the last 10.

If you ever watched NFL Films footage of Bullet Bob Hayes, this is what he used to do to people. Now add great hands, possibly-best-on-the-planet short area quickness, and high football IQ, you get Tyreek Hill.

Direckshun 08-09-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15106364)
Tyreek ran the 40 in 4.29 seconds at the NFL Combine.
Mecole ran it in 4.33 seconds.

Tyreek is still in his prime. If anything he might be faster now at 26. Once athletes get to be 28 or 29 then the descent can start but no reason to think he is slower than he was in the NFL Combine.

He’s taken a couple hundred hits that Hardman hasn’t.

Three7s 08-09-2020 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15106093)
Matt Breida can take both of these guys.

Why are you even here?

Chief Roundup 08-09-2020 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15106364)
Tyreek ran the 40 in 4.29 seconds at the NFL Combine.
Mecole ran it in 4.33 seconds.

Tyreek is still in his prime. If anything he might be faster now at 26. Once athletes get to be 28 or 29 then the descent can start but no reason to think he is slower than he was in the NFL Combine.

Those numbers are from Hills Pro Day. Hill was not invited to the combine.

BWillie 08-09-2020 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15106422)
Those numbers are from Hills Pro Day. Hill was not invited to the combine.

Ahh google failed me. Then I would have expected the race to be closer. Everyone runs faster at their pro day.

HemiEd 08-09-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15105425)
I’d take the younger Hardman any day of the week in a pure footrace.

Hill has unreal speed but it’s his unearthly short area quickness and football intelligence that make him a special football player.

Actually, IMO Hill's ability to catch the damn ball(sick) is likely as big of deal as his speed.

BigRedChief 08-09-2020 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 15106768)
Actually, IMO Hill's ability to catch the damn ball(sick) is likely as big of deal as his speed.

also the vertical leap is off the charts.

smithandrew051 08-09-2020 06:52 PM

Even when Tyreek “slows down” in 5 or 6 years, he’s still going to be one of the fastest receivers in the league. He might be an upper third speed guy instead of being otherworldly fast.

He’ll know all of the veteran tricks of the trade by then, so I think he’ll be productive for a long time.

FlintHillsChiefs 08-09-2020 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15106172)
Indeed Tyreek Superman Mecole the Flash

You do realize that the Flash can run circles around Superman don't you?

VAChief 08-09-2020 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15106093)
Matt Breida can take both of these guys.

Last time I checked 4.24 and 4.33 are faster than 4.38.

CapsLockKey 08-09-2020 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15106980)
Even when Tyreek “slows down” in 5 or 6 years, he’s still going to be one of the fastest receivers in the league. He might be an upper third speed guy instead of being otherworldly fast.

He’ll know all of the veteran tricks of the trade by then, so I think he’ll be productive for a long time.

Not so sure he slows down much barring injuries. Ted Ginn Jr is 35 and still got his wheels for the most part. He's just never had very good receiving skills to pair with them.

BigRedChief 08-09-2020 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 15107053)
Not so sure he slows down much barring injuries. Ted Ginn Jr is 35 and still got his wheels for the most part. He's just never had very good receiving skills to pair with them.

obviously he’s also keeping himself in world class tip top shape.

staylor26 08-09-2020 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15106093)
Matt Breida can take both of these guys.

Are you ever right about anything?

Tribal Warfare 08-10-2020 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 15107020)
Last time I checked 4.24 and 4.33 are faster than 4.38.

Brieda's 100M time is 10.99


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