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mdstu 10-25-2015 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 11833231)
I guess so, or a good shock collar.

http://lawandorder4k9s.weebly.com/up...02291_orig.jpg

I don't know much about this whole Fanduel thing you guys got into, but when I saw a few of the posts about it and picked up who was involved (Hootie, self proclaimed betting guru) I knew it wouldn't end well.

So from what I can gather 50 people went in on this thing at $100 a pop? I tried to follow one of BigRedChief's quotes in there to look around and see what happened and I can't even get in there. :shake:

What the **** guys, do you have some kind of double secret opium den going on over there or what? I guess I could go into my administrative privileges and make myself a mod to go take a look, but I'm not that curious. It looks like enough details are coming out in this thread and the mod lounge to pick most of it up.

As far as I can tell, I don't think anyone was in this to "get rich". It was more about having fun and making Sunday a little bit more interesting.

There was an immediate clashing of ideas and egos and the fun and money dwindled after week one.

Having said that I definitely got my moneys worth.

Brock 10-25-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 11833245)
This. **** that drunk bitch CC. Bring back Hootie. This is ridiculous

Yep.

Cc brings nothing but drunk drama

TLO 10-25-2015 09:31 AM

CC?

ChiefsCoalition?

TLO 10-25-2015 09:32 AM

Joke.

DaFace 10-25-2015 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11833257)
Yep.

Cc brings nothing but drunk drama

Mission accomplished it seems.

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:32 AM

And has it even been proven that the big tragedy is even true?
Seems weird to tell someone that you don't get along with AT ALL something so terrible and personal...

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833225)
Now I wish I'd have ponied up the $100 to get into this.

Me too, I mean shit it's only a 100 bucks.

DaFace 10-25-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833262)
And has it even been proven that the big tragedy is even true?
Seems weird to tell someone that you don't get along with AT ALL something so terrible and personal...

My daughter was impaled on a monument to Genghis Khan by a pack of wild giraffes. Don't tell anyone.

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833265)
My daughter was impaled on a monument to Genghis Khan by a pack of wild giraffes. Don't tell anyone.

Sorry, I never knew we didn't get along at all.

Molitoth 10-25-2015 09:34 AM

People are naturally competitive, especially with real currency involved.
As soon as I saw the original post by Hootie about this whole idea... I laughed.
50 people working together, Chiefs homers who would pick Alex Smith included? yikes!

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:34 AM

Hootie twisted some panties up pretty tight apparently. Not surprising CC was involved in all of this nonsense.

Bugeater 10-25-2015 09:36 AM

I predict this thread will have more posts by the end of the day than the gamethread.

DaFace 10-25-2015 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833264)
Me too, I mean shit it's only a 100 bucks.

This should be the approach of CP's next fundraiser:

For only $100, you will have access to a private forum where we'll lock Clay, Hootie, CC, and SDH in a room. Each week, one gets voted out. The winner gets half of the donations, and Kyle gets the rest.

That could damn well be worth the money.

DaFace 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833268)
Sorry, I never knew we didn't get along at all.

I'm gonna get you banned, you ****ing asshole. WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP THIS TRAGEDY???!?!??!????

;)

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Can someone at least link us to a lineup made by OTWP that had Alex smith at qb?


Or at least the post Hootie referenced?


I need some future ammo on OTWP. ROFL.

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833271)
I predict this thread will have more posts by the end of the day than the gamethread.

Nah, Hootie got booted or he would have kept it alive. This will probably get locked. Fun fun.

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833274)
I'm gonna get you banned, you ****ing asshole. WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP THIS TRAGEDY???!?!??!????

;)

LMAO

So good.

Bwana 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 11833254)
As far as I can tell, I don't think anyone was in this to "get rich". It was more about having fun and making Sunday a little bit more interesting.

There was an immediate clashing of ideas and egos and the fun and money dwindled after week one.

Having said that I definitely got my moneys worth.

Good for you, it has to be better than what we have been putting on the field for the last few weeks trying to pass off as entertainment. :hmmm:

Donger 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Maybe crazycoffey has had enough of people denigrating his profession and vis-à-vis him?

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833272)
This should be the approach of CP's next fundraiser:

For only $100, you will have access to a private forum where we'll lock Clay, Hootie, CC, and SDH in a room. Each week, one gets voted out. The winner gets half of the donations, and Kyle gets the rest.

That could damn well be worth the money.

**** voting one out. Just let them eat each other.

KCUnited 10-25-2015 09:38 AM

The meltdown thread(s) was pretty much a post-Trent Green Chiefs QB skills competition put to words.

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833272)
This should be the approach of CP's next fundraiser:

For only $100, you will have access to a private forum where we'll lock Clay, Hootie, CC, and SDH in a room. Each week, one gets voted out. The winner gets half of the donations, and Kyle gets the rest.

That could damn well be worth the money.

Giraffe mother ****er.

MAYHEM 10-25-2015 09:39 AM

Lurker but I like Hootie in Royals threads. Can you guys wait another week then ban him? :/

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833274)
I'm gonna get you banned, you ****ing asshole. WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP THIS TRAGEDY???!?!??!????

;)

Ghengis Kahn bitch.

Bugeater 10-25-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833280)
Maybe crazycoffey has had enough of people denigrating his profession and vis-à-vis him?

Hootie wasn't one of them.

Molitoth 10-25-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833275)
Can someone at least link us to a lineup made by OTWP that had Alex smith at qb?

Or at least the post Hootie referenced?

I need some future ammo on OTWP. ROFL.

OTWP typically knows his shit. It sounds like he was using statistical software to develop lineups.

The big thing is,... software and the majority of the NFL audience doesn't realize how ****ing terrible Alex Smith is at QB. If you ask the average person, they will probably tell you Alex Smith is an above average QB that is only a great Oline, Defense, and a few weapons away from making it to the post-season. ROFL

Bwana 10-25-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833271)
I predict this thread will have more posts by the end of the day than the gamethread.

I don't know, never underestimated the power of the Chiefs play to generate a large quantity of posts.

DaFace 10-25-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833285)
Giraffe mother ****er.

I almost hope this becomes a thing. ROFL

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:40 AM

Maybe you guys should have stuck with just depositing 35 bucks on fan duel.


THATS the guy who wins, the commercial says so.



Giraffe

Brock 10-25-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11833164)
Him continuing to bring up the CC issue that he was told years ago not too, in conjuncture with lying about it, then making fun of the dude for some shit he caused is why he's gone. He was told to not continue bringing that shit up, he can't help himself in a fit of rage. I don't care that he's a liar, or that he threatened to commit fraud. If he did, he'd go to prison, but him violating his probation is what did it. I'm sorry for anyone who doesn't like it, but that's all I have to say about it.

That isn't what happened. You guys are off the chain on this.

ThaVirus 10-25-2015 09:41 AM

Does this horribly tragic life event have anything to do with a long day on shift, a baby and a microwave?

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 11833289)
OTWP typically knows his shit. It sounds like he was using statistical software to develop lineups.

The big thing is,... software and the majority of the NFL audience doesn't realize how ****ing terrible Alex Smith is at QB. If you ask the average person, they will probably tell you Alex Smith is an above average QB that is only a great Oline, Defense, and a few weapons away from making it to the post-season. ROFL

I like OTWP, Just can't believe he didn't blow up whatever software said to start Alex smith.

ChiliConCarnage 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833272)
This should be the approach of CP's next fundraiser:

For only $100, you will have access to a private forum where we'll lock Clay, Hootie, CC, and SDH in a room. Each week, one gets voted out. The winner gets half of the donations, and Kyle gets the rest.

That could damn well be worth the money.

For an extra 20 spot could we include Rabblerouser?

Donger 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833291)
I almost hope this becomes a thing. ROFL

http://static4.businessinsider.com/~...bedd5d3d00000b

farmerchief 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11833252)
I don't give a **** that hootie is banned at all, and crush him all you want about the way he's handled the whole Fanduel thing, but I thought he did a fairly decent job of trying his best to avoid the CC stuff that was brought up by bosschief and ran with by CC.

I can't argue with that, CC seemed to be the instigator and Hootie was on the defense, trying to deflect all the way, not wanting to "start" anything. I didn't know those two had a past history, but I do now.:rolleyes:

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 11833289)
OTWP typically knows his shit. It sounds like he was using statistical software to develop lineups.

The big thing is,... software and the majority of the NFL audience doesn't realize how ****ing terrible Alex Smith is at QB than the people like us who watch him suck every week. If you ask the average person, they will probably tell you Alex Smith is an above average QB that is only a great Oline, Defense, and a few weapons away from making it to the post-season. ROFL

I can't believe that a group of people that actually watch him play every week would ever consider him as an option. No matter the matchup or his price tag, or any of that shit. You can't trust Smiff in any regard. He will fail you. He will lose you money. He was born to lose.

dlphg9 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11833295)
Does this horribly tragic life event have anything to do with a long day on shift, a baby and a microwave?

I'm so curious as to what the tragedy is

Donger 10-25-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833288)
Hootie wasn't one of them.

Okay.

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 11833300)
I can't argue with that, CC seemed to be the instigator and Hootie was on the defense, trying to deflect all the way, not wanting to "start" anything. I didn't know those two had a past history, but I do now.:rolleyes:

CC the instigator? But now he needs protecting?

Huh. Is this true?

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833303)
Okay.

Yep.

Bugeater 10-25-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833303)
Okay.

I've never even seen Hootie post in DC. Have you?

Donger 10-25-2015 09:44 AM

LMAO

http://static5.businessinsider.com/~...b3f7cc4a000000

Donger 10-25-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833308)
I've never even seen Hootie post in DC. Have you?

Yes.

jonzie04 10-25-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 11833269)
People are naturally competitive, especially with real currency involved.
As soon as I saw the original post by Hootie about this whole idea... I laughed.
50 people working together, Chiefs homers who would pick Alex Smith included? yikes!

It sounds like 50 people working together in Hooties mind meant... 49 people investing in Hootie.

MAYHEM 10-25-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11833301)
I can't believe that a group of people that actually watch him play every week would ever consider him as an option. No matter the matchup or his price tag, or any of that shit. You can't trust Smiff in any regard. He will fail you. He will lose you money. He was born to lose.

Amazing, really. Wtf would ever play smith in FF.

TimBone 10-25-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833225)
Now I wish I'd have ponied up the $100 to get into this.

I ponied up the $100 and missed all the drama this week. :-(

dlphg9 10-25-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833308)
I've never even seen Hootie post in DC. Have you?

Just looked it up. He's posted in 5 threads

SAUTO 10-25-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11833305)
CC the instigator? But now he needs protecting?

Huh. Is this true?

It's actually been true every time it's happened since he told Hootie all about the " terrible drama filled incident that wasn't too drama like to not tell the random douchebag in a message board who is talking shit on you"


He instigated the situation that night and every time since, yet Hootie is always the one who gets banned over it.

Rams Fan 10-25-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11833295)
Does this horribly tragic life event have anything to do with a long day on shift, a baby and a microwave?

It involves a pair of tweezers, an empty shampoo bottle , and a rubber glove.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11833272)
This should be the approach of CP's next fundraiser:

For only $100, you will have access to a private forum where we'll lock Clay, Hootie, CC, and SDH in a room. Each week, one gets voted out. The winner gets half of the donations, and Kyle gets the rest.

That could damn well be worth the money.

Hootie, CC, SDH, Dane, Cosmo, Clay.

Make it happen.

BigRedChief 10-25-2015 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11833295)
Does this horribly tragic life event have anything to do with a long day on shift, a baby and a microwave?

Giraffe mother ****er, the horror!

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833318)
It's actually been true every time it's happened since he told Hootie all about the " terrible drama filled incident that wasn't too drama like to not tell the random douchebag in a message board who is talking shit on you"


He instigated the situation that night and every time since, yet Hootie is always the one who gets banned over it.

Not surprising.

bdj23 10-25-2015 09:48 AM

Hootie is being a gigantic pillowbiter?

Color me surprised.

mrroandrro 10-25-2015 09:48 AM

http://i.imgur.com/aVZgT.gif

Bugeater 10-25-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833310)
Yes.

Really? Guess I'll take your word for it since I don't spend a tremendous amount of time in there. I tried to do a search of Hootie's DC posts but it seems I can't since he's banned now.

TimBone 10-25-2015 09:54 AM

What was it that got Clay banned?

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833342)
Really? Guess I'll take your word for it since I don't spend a tremendous amount of time in there. I tried to do a search of Hootie's DC posts but it seems I can't since he's banned now.

I'd go so far as to guess he might have two or three DC posts out of his tens of thousands. So, technically, yeah he's totally posted over there.

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11833350)
What was it that got Clay banned?

Being too negative about the Chiefs is a good guess.

ThaVirus 10-25-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11833350)
What was it that got Clay banned?


Bob Dole's sensitive vagina

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833298)

****ing hardcore.

Bugeater 10-25-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11833354)
I'd go so far as to guess he might have two or three DC posts out of his tens of thousands. So, technically, yeah he's totally posted over there.

Ok, so apparently according to Donger if you've ever posted in DC you are a cop basher.

Buehler445 10-25-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11833237)
Clay got a 30 day vacation.

LOL they're dropping like flies

Pablo 10-25-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833362)
Ok, so apparently according to Donger if you've ever posted in DC you are a cop basher.

Yes.

Bob Dole 10-25-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11833350)
What was it that got Clay banned?

Celebrating injured KC players after trolling every Chiefs thread for 6 months.

Donger 10-25-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833362)
Ok, so apparently according to Donger if you've ever posted in DC you are a cop basher.

That's an odd thing to state.

Bugeater 10-25-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11833380)
That's an odd thing to state.

Okay, let's attack this from a slightly different direction...

I've never seen Hootie make an anti-cop post in an anti-cop thread. Have you?

TimBone 10-25-2015 10:06 AM

Btw, OTWP should not be shouldering the blame for the Alex Smith picks. It was the week of the Bears game, and there were a number of posters that thought Alex might be a sneaky play (including myself, as much as I hate to admit it). He had just come of the Bengals game, where he was pushing the ball down field with a little success, and the Chiefs were taking on a terrible Bears team at home. Looking back, stupid decision, yeah. But it was on a few of us, not just OTWP.

Damn. That sucked to write.

OnTheWarpath15 10-25-2015 10:07 AM

**** it, I have a half hour to give you some insight on how this REALLY went down. Members of the group, feel free to correct any mistakes from your viewpoint...

First: Look at the title of this thread. Should tell you everything you need to know.

50 people donate $100 each to a group effort. Myself, Flop, Nzoner and Hootie are in charge of physically creating each lineup in Fanduel - BASED ON THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE ENTIRE GROUP. The expectation is that everything is up to the group.

First week. Creating 200 lineups isn't something that happens quickly if you're doing it right...Wednesday. No Hootie. Thursday: "Let me get home from bowling tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." Crickets. Friday: "Let me get home from work tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." IIRC, he finally logged on after 11:00pm - when he knew no one would be on the board.

Saturday morning: I start hearing from group members, concerned that nothing is happening. Flop and I have a discussion about asking the group to wait a week so that we have a plan and plenty of time.

A thread was started. Quite a few people were concerned about going into this all willy-nilly and was on board with waiting. Hootie decided on his own to just start creating lineups, bashing Flop and I, claiming that, "it's not rocket science" and that he's starting if anyone wants to help.

Here begins the trend of Hootie going rogue and doing whatever HE wanted to do with $5000 of other people's money without input from the group.

At that point, we're less than 24 hours to kickoff and Hootie created 188 dummy lineups to be edited. In hindsight, we should have done exactly what was done last night: change the password on him and cancel the entries until we can come to a consensus. Instead, a mad scramble ensues to get playable lineups created. Flop and I do our best to take the input of the group, while Hootie does basically his own thing.

For the record: This bullshit about us losing $3100 that week because Flop and I created a ton of "Chiefs stacks" is complete bullshit. First, we played the Bears that week. There's not a person on the ****ing planet who thought JC and Maclin wasn't a good play that day against a BAD Bears defense. No one expected JC to blow out his knee, either. With all that said, those two were in less than 25% of our lineups - and Hootie didn't complain ONE BIT until AFTER he realized we lost $3100 - some of which because his pet Gronk put up like 5 points. Pet players - another trend that is going to develop over this story.

So our first week ends, and we're down $3100 - who gets blamed?

The two guys that were trying to PROTECT the group's money by suggesting we wait.

Flop gets pissed, rightfully so and decides he's not going to give input since Hootie's not taking suggestions anyway. I found out that Monday that I was being given a metric ****ton of new responsibility, and that the week was going to be a ballbuster. Nzoner refuses to work with Hootie because Hootie went in on Sunday morning and edited several of Nzoner's lineups - one of which would have been a nice payday, IIRC.

So the second week becomes even more of the Hootie show. Make a suggestion in the lineup forum? Get talked down to, and your suggestion ignored. Hey, maybe we should get John Brown in more lineups? Nah. (dude went off for 190 yards)

I check back in on Sunday morning and admit to a HUGE mistake.

I looked at what Hootie had done and praised him. I thought things looked pretty good.

My mistake is that I didn't look close enough and he had gone overboard with ownership of a few players, including SEA defense. 75% of our entries had SEA defense. I noticed less than an hour before gametime and also posted that Bobby Wagner was out, and that SEA defense is not the same with him out. Someone else echoed my comment.

Crickets. SEA gets prison raped at home against Carolina. But we won money, so Hootie casually ignores it.

This week - more of the same. People are starting to get pissed that suggestions are getting ignored and that myself, Flop and Nzoner are sitting on the sidelines. People want more balance and diversification in lineups and not lineups that are Hootie "pet player" heavy.

Instead, we get more of "his ideas are awesome, the rest of you suck" - general Hootie attitude for anyone who has seen more than half of one of his posts. Narcissism personified. At one point he even gets pissed off for being called out, and played the victim card as he always does. He claims he quitting MULTIPLE times and basically goes scorched earth on the entire group. Typical Hootie blowup material like this morning. Eventually, it blows over and he goes on like nothing ever happened.

Sure enough, when he posts a thread where people can talk lineups, the first thing he posts?

Let's start building lineups, starting with 20 Brady/Gronk stacks. Nevermind that the majority of the board asked repeatedly to balance things out, and also expressed concern over the matchup the Pats have. People want more Andrew Luck with a good matchup, more Carson Palmer with a great matchup - Hootie wants less than 10% ownership.

Friday night and yesterday afternoon I start getting PM's and texts from people saying enough's enough and that they need us to step in. I leave at 3:30 to take a friend to dinner and to the Blues game for his 40th birthday. Apparently all hell breaks loose while I'm there. I'm still trying to catch up a bit.

This is honestly just the tip of the iceberg. Flop can add a LOT more than this, as I was engrossed with work during the week and missed a lot of the drama.

TL;DR: Hootie decided that this was a $5000 freeroll for him, (actually made several comments about ruining HIS fun) refused to think of the group or the fact that he was ****ing with other people's money, and people finally had enough of his bullshit, and now he's playing the victim card, as always.

bdj23 10-25-2015 10:07 AM

So Hootie and Clay have both been banned?

Make ChiefsPlanet great again

Donger 10-25-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11833405)
Okay, let's attack this from a slightly different direction...

I've never seen Hootie make an anti-cop post in an anti-cop thread. Have you?

Not to the best of my recollection.

Marcellus 10-25-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11833275)
Can someone at least link us to a lineup made by OTWP that had Alex smith at qb?


Or at least the post Hootie referenced?


I need some future ammo on OTWP. ROFL.

This is part of what has caused issues, Hootie is full of shit and spent a good amount of time bullshitting everyone else on what lineups were submitted and by who.

NZoner got totally pissed out the gate and said see you guys over this.

tk13 10-25-2015 10:11 AM

This thread is pretty much how I envision a Donald Trump presidency.

notorious 10-25-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

edited several of Nzoner's lineups - one of which would have been a nice payday, IIRC.

He edited Nzoners lineups?

Nzoner knows what he is doing when it comes to gambling, and Hoot thought he could improve it?

Wow.

Marcellus 10-25-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11833432)
He edited Nzoners lineups?

Nzoner knows what he is doing when it comes to gambling, and Hoot thought he could improve it?

Wow.

And here is the issue in a nutshell. **** Hootie.

SAUTO 10-25-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11833409)
**** it, I have a half hour to give you some insight on how this REALLY went down. Members of the group, feel free to correct any mistakes from your viewpoint...

First: Look at the title of this thread. Should tell you everything you need to know.

50 people donate $100 each to a group effort. Myself, Flop, Nzoner and Hootie are in charge of physically creating each lineup in Fanduel - BASED ON THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE ENTIRE GROUP. The expectation is that everything is up to the group.

First week. Creating 200 lineups isn't something that happens quickly if you're doing it right...Wednesday. No Hootie. Thursday: "Let me get home from bowling tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." Crickets. Friday: "Let me get home from work tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." IIRC, he finally logged on after 11:00pm - when he knew no one would be on the board.

Saturday morning: I start hearing from group members, concerned that nothing is happening. Flop and I have a discussion about asking the group to wait a week so that we have a plan and plenty of time.

A thread was started. Quite a few people were concerned about going into this all willy-nilly and was on board with waiting. Hootie decided on his own to just start creating lineups, bashing Flop and I, claiming that, "it's not rocket science" and that he's starting if anyone wants to help.

Here begins the trend of Hootie going rogue and doing whatever HE wanted to do with $5000 of other people's money without input from the group.

At that point, we're less than 24 hours to kickoff and Hootie created 188 dummy lineups to be edited. In hindsight, we should have done exactly what was done last night: change the password on him and cancel the entries until we can come to a consensus. Instead, a mad scramble ensues to get playable lineups created. Flop and I do our best to take the input of the group, while Hootie does basically his own thing.

For the record: This bullshit about us losing $3100 that week because Flop and I created a ton of "Chiefs stacks" is complete bullshit. First, we played the Bears that week. There's not a person on the ****ing planet who thought JC and Maclin wasn't a good play that day against a BAD Bears defense. No one expected JC to blow out his knee, either. With all that said, those two were in less than 25% of our lineups - and Hootie didn't complain ONE BIT until AFTER he realized we lost $3100 - some of which because his pet Gronk put up like 5 points. Pet players - another trend that is going to develop over this story.

So our first week ends, and we're down $3100 - who gets blamed?

The two guys that were trying to PROTECT the group's money by suggesting we wait.

Flop gets pissed, rightfully so and decides he's not going to give input since Hootie's not taking suggestions anyway. I found out that Monday that I was being given a metric ****ton of new responsibility, and that the week was going to be a ballbuster. Nzoner refuses to work with Hootie because Hootie went in on Sunday morning and edited several of Nzoner's lineups - one of which would have been a nice payday, IIRC.

So the second week becomes even more of the Hootie show. Make a suggestion in the lineup forum? Get talked down to, and your suggestion ignored. Hey, maybe we should get John Brown in more lineups? Nah. (dude went off for 190 yards)

I check back in on Sunday morning and admit to a HUGE mistake.

I looked at what Hootie had done and praised him. I thought things looked pretty good.

My mistake is that I didn't look close enough and he had gone overboard with ownership of a few players, including SEA defense. 75% of our entries had SEA defense. I noticed less than an hour before gametime and also posted that Bobby Wagner was out, and that SEA defense is not the same with him out. Someone else echoed my comment.

Crickets. SEA gets prison raped at home against Carolina. But we won money, so Hootie casually ignores it.

This week - more of the same. People are starting to get pissed that suggestions are getting ignored and that myself, Flop and Nzoner are sitting on the sidelines. People want more balance and diversification in lineups and not lineups that are Hootie "pet player" heavy.

Instead, we get more of "his ideas are awesome, the rest of you suck" - general Hootie attitude for anyone who has seen more than half of one of his posts. Narcissism personified. At one point he even gets pissed off for being called out, and played the victim card as he always does. He claims he quitting MULTIPLE times and basically goes scorched earth on the entire group. Typical Hootie blowup material like this morning. Eventually, it blows over and he goes on like nothing ever happened.

Sure enough, when he posts a thread where people can talk lineups, the first thing he posts?

Let's start building lineups, starting with 20 Brady/Gronk stacks. Nevermind that the majority of the board asked repeatedly to balance things out, and also expressed concern over the matchup the Pats have. People want more Andrew Luck with a good matchup, more Carson Palmer with a great matchup - Hootie wants less than 10% ownership.

Friday night and yesterday afternoon I start getting PM's and texts from people saying enough's enough and that they need us to step in. I leave at 3:30 to take a friend to dinner and to the Blues game for his 40th birthday. Apparently all hell breaks loose while I'm there. I'm still trying to catch up a bit.

This is honestly just the tip of the iceberg. Flop can add a LOT more than this, as I was engrossed with work during the week and missed a lot of the drama.

TL;DR: Hootie decided that this was a $5000 freeroll for him, (actually made several comments about ruining HIS fun) refused to think of the group or the fact that he was ****ing with other people's money, and people finally had enough of his bullshit, and now he's playing the victim card, as always.

All makes total sense to boot him from making lineups.


I really just wanted to see you saying Alex smith is THE PLAY at qb.


And can't see why he's banned over here over any of it.

OnTheWarpath15 10-25-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11833407)
Btw, OTWP should not be shouldering the blame for the Alex Smith picks. It was the week of the Bears game, and there were a number of posters that thought Alex might be a sneaky play (including myself, as much as I hate to admit it). He had just come of the Bengals game, where he was pushing the ball down field with a little success, and the Chiefs were taking on a terrible Bears team at home. Looking back, stupid decision, yeah. But it was on a few of us, not just OTWP.

Damn. That sucked to write.

Thank you for that. 100% truth.

And with that said, he was started in less than 10% of our lineups.

Again, you need diversification to win big. And shockingly enough, the guy who won the Million in Week 1 of the regular season.

Wait for it...

Used Alex Smith.

MTG#10 10-25-2015 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11833409)
**** it, I have a half hour to give you some insight on how this REALLY went down. Members of the group, feel free to correct any mistakes from your viewpoint...

First: Look at the title of this thread. Should tell you everything you need to know.

50 people donate $100 each to a group effort. Myself, Flop, Nzoner and Hootie are in charge of physically creating each lineup in Fanduel - BASED ON THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE ENTIRE GROUP. The expectation is that everything is up to the group.

First week. Creating 200 lineups isn't something that happens quickly if you're doing it right...Wednesday. No Hootie. Thursday: "Let me get home from bowling tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." Crickets. Friday: "Let me get home from work tonight and you'll have my undivided attention." IIRC, he finally logged on after 11:00pm - when he knew no one would be on the board.

Saturday morning: I start hearing from group members, concerned that nothing is happening. Flop and I have a discussion about asking the group to wait a week so that we have a plan and plenty of time.

A thread was started. Quite a few people were concerned about going into this all willy-nilly and was on board with waiting. Hootie decided on his own to just start creating lineups, bashing Flop and I, claiming that, "it's not rocket science" and that he's starting if anyone wants to help.

Here begins the trend of Hootie going rogue and doing whatever HE wanted to do with $5000 of other people's money without input from the group.

At that point, we're less than 24 hours to kickoff and Hootie created 188 dummy lineups to be edited. In hindsight, we should have done exactly what was done last night: change the password on him and cancel the entries until we can come to a consensus. Instead, a mad scramble ensues to get playable lineups created. Flop and I do our best to take the input of the group, while Hootie does basically his own thing.

For the record: This bullshit about us losing $3100 that week because Flop and I created a ton of "Chiefs stacks" is complete bullshit. First, we played the Bears that week. There's not a person on the ****ing planet who thought JC and Maclin wasn't a good play that day against a BAD Bears defense. No one expected JC to blow out his knee, either. With all that said, those two were in less than 25% of our lineups - and Hootie didn't complain ONE BIT until AFTER he realized we lost $3100 - some of which because his pet Gronk put up like 5 points. Pet players - another trend that is going to develop over this story.

So our first week ends, and we're down $3100 - who gets blamed?

The two guys that were trying to PROTECT the group's money by suggesting we wait.

Flop gets pissed, rightfully so and decides he's not going to give input since Hootie's not taking suggestions anyway. I found out that Monday that I was being given a metric ****ton of new responsibility, and that the week was going to be a ballbuster. Nzoner refuses to work with Hootie because Hootie went in on Sunday morning and edited several of Nzoner's lineups - one of which would have been a nice payday, IIRC.

So the second week becomes even more of the Hootie show. Make a suggestion in the lineup forum? Get talked down to, and your suggestion ignored. Hey, maybe we should get John Brown in more lineups? Nah. (dude went off for 190 yards)

I check back in on Sunday morning and admit to a HUGE mistake.

I looked at what Hootie had done and praised him. I thought things looked pretty good.

My mistake is that I didn't look close enough and he had gone overboard with ownership of a few players, including SEA defense. 75% of our entries had SEA defense. I noticed less than an hour before gametime and also posted that Bobby Wagner was out, and that SEA defense is not the same with him out. Someone else echoed my comment.

Crickets. SEA gets prison raped at home against Carolina. But we won money, so Hootie casually ignores it.

This week - more of the same. People are starting to get pissed that suggestions are getting ignored and that myself, Flop and Nzoner are sitting on the sidelines. People want more balance and diversification in lineups and not lineups that are Hootie "pet player" heavy.

Instead, we get more of "his ideas are awesome, the rest of you suck" - general Hootie attitude for anyone who has seen more than half of one of his posts. Narcissism personified. At one point he even gets pissed off for being called out, and played the victim card as he always does. He claims he quitting MULTIPLE times and basically goes scorched earth on the entire group. Typical Hootie blowup material like this morning. Eventually, it blows over and he goes on like nothing ever happened.

Sure enough, when he posts a thread where people can talk lineups, the first thing he posts?

Let's start building lineups, starting with 20 Brady/Gronk stacks. Nevermind that the majority of the board asked repeatedly to balance things out, and also expressed concern over the matchup the Pats have. People want more Andrew Luck with a good matchup, more Carson Palmer with a great matchup - Hootie wants less than 10% ownership.

Friday night and yesterday afternoon I start getting PM's and texts from people saying enough's enough and that they need us to step in. I leave at 3:30 to take a friend to dinner and to the Blues game for his 40th birthday. Apparently all hell breaks loose while I'm there. I'm still trying to catch up a bit.

This is honestly just the tip of the iceberg. Flop can add a LOT more than this, as I was engrossed with work during the week and missed a lot of the drama.

TL;DR: Hootie decided that this was a $5000 freeroll for him, (actually made several comments about ruining HIS fun) refused to think of the group or the fact that he was ****ing with other people's money, and people finally had enough of his bullshit, and now he's playing the victim card, as always.

All of this but you left out the most important thing: he broke the group's number one ban-worthy rule, didn't care, and openly said he planned to keep doing it.

OnTheWarpath15 10-25-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11833422)
This is part of what has caused issues, Hootie is full of shit and spent a good amount of time bullshitting everyone else on what lineups were submitted and by who.

NZoner got totally pissed out the gate and said see you guys over this.

Thank you as well for the support.

DaFace 10-25-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11833437)
Thank you for that. 100% truth.

And with that said, he was started in less than 10% of our lineups.

Again, you need diversification to win big. And shockingly enough, the guy who won the Million in Week 1 of the regular season.

Wait for it...

Used Alex Smith.

Yeah, I think people just don't understand the strategy of what you're doing. If I understand it correctly, having UNIQUE lineups is almost more important than having GOOD lineups. Because of that, even mediocre players should end up on lineups here and there.

Pablo 10-25-2015 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11833437)
Thank you for that. 100% truth.

And with that said, he was started in less than 10% of our lineups.

Again, you need diversification to win big. And shockingly enough, the guy who won the Million in Week 1 of the regular season.

Wait for it...

Used Alex Smith.

So Alice was good for something then. That's encouraging.

10% doesn't sound like a Chiefs stack unless he was being paired with a bunch of Chiefs players in each lineup or some shit.

Baby Lee 10-25-2015 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11833350)
What was it that got Clay banned?

Rooting for injury.


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