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Hog's Gone Fishin 06-01-2020 01:10 AM

Just think, if not for Dumbass Dee Ford Mahomes would likely have two SB victories already.

Coogs 06-01-2020 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14997720)
I would expect it would be higher but probably not outrageously so. But it is the reason I'm kinda surprised that they haven't been working on a Chris Jones deal to clear some space for the extra money mahomes would be getting.


I was just using the 70 million signing bonus which seems reasonable here. On a 5 year extension as an example, that would be spread out over 7 years. That a 10 million dollar hit this season, plus what is probably a minimum salary.

eDave 06-01-2020 05:47 AM

Do any athletes own a private jet?

ILChief 06-01-2020 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14998157)
Just think, if not for Dumbass Dee Ford Mahomes would likely have two SB victories already.

If Dee Ford hadn’t jumped offsides and we won that game and the super bowl, would Reid have kept Sutton? If so, I don’t think we win this past year

ChiefsFanatic 06-01-2020 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 14998251)
If Dee Ford hadn’t jumped offsides and we won that game and the super bowl, would Reid have kept Sutton? If so, I don’t think we win this past year

Maybe Sutton would have retired. But, you definitely raise an interesting alternative timeline possibility.

But, getting revenge on the Rams for that 54-51 loss would have been epic. It's possible that the Chiefs vs Rams Super Bowl last year could have set ratings records, just based on the hype created by that MNF game.

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DRM08 06-01-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 14998326)
Maybe Sutton would have retired. But, you definitely raise an interesting alternative timeline possibility.

But, getting revenge on the Rams for that 54-51 loss would have been epic. It's possible that the Chiefs vs Rams Super Bowl last year could have set ratings records, just based on the hype created by that MNF game.

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Given that KC’s defense was pretty bad in 2018-2019 season, a Chiefs/Rams Super Bowl would have been a hell of a lot more entertaining than Rams/Patriots. That was one of the most boring Super Bowls in recent decades.

PAChiefsGuy 06-01-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14998441)
Given that KC’s defense was pretty bad in 2018-2019 season, a Chiefs/Rams Super Bowl would have been a hell of a lot more entertaining than Rams/Patriots. That was one of the most boring Super Bowls in recent decades.

I thought it was fine. I know I'm in the minority but I thought watching Pats D play D way they did was a thing of beauty.

RealSNR 06-01-2020 09:45 AM

Have we extended this piece of QB gold yet?

duncan_idaho 06-01-2020 10:35 AM

For the team, the deal works best IF the structure is somewhat known and you have a lot of cash being delivered via roster bonuses/signing bonuses that let you keep 1) giving the player lots of cash now; 2) spreading the cash over an extended contract.

With Mahomes, KC will always want to kick the can down the road on his cap hits as much as possible, because you always want the player.

For Mahomes, it's guaranteed money/cash in hand that matter.

So... with the whole percentage of the cap coming up, I do wonder if maybe there's a way to schedule roster bonuses that use a percentage of the salary cap or something of that nature. Would potentially be the best of both worlds.

teedubya 06-01-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14983549)
**** it.

I legit want them to offer him a fixed percentage of the salary cap every year.

If it goes up, so does his contract.

Give him a true "career contract"

This is what I'd like, as well. 13-17% of the salary cap each year.

DrRyan 06-01-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 14999094)
This is what I'd like, as well. 13-17% of the salary cap each year.

I can't see any way 13% gets it done. That would be a little over $25 million this year. I have a hard time seeing anything below 18% getting it done. What would motivate him, or anyone for that matter, to take a deal like that that would take years of salary cap escalation to get to the "top tier" QB salaries? Couple that with the possibility of the cap decreasing or seemingly at best, a small increase in 2021 after. I can't expect the typical yearly cap increase next year that we have seen for a while now.

I would trust Veach and the cap guys to be able to continually field a very good team at other important cornerstone positions with 82% of the cap.

Kidd Lex 06-01-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 14999094)
This is what I'd like, as well. 13-17% of the salary cap each year.

All but assures Patrick gets fair compensation while allowing the team the ability to stay competitive and plan ahead each and every year.

Kidd Lex 06-01-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 14999114)
I can't see any way 13% gets it done. That would be a little over $25 million this year. I have a hard time seeing anything below 18% getting it done. What would motivate him, or anyone for that matter, to take a deal like that that would take years of salary cap escalation to get to the "top tier" QB salaries? Couple that with the possibility of the cap decreasing or seemingly at best, a small increase in 2021 after. I can't expect the typical yearly cap increase next year that we have seen for a while now.

I would trust Veach and the cap guys to be able to continually field a very good team at other important cornerstone positions with 82% of the cap.

One thing to remember is his cap number the next two years is like $5 million a year. It would still be a large raise the next few years, and then jump as the cap jumps. You’re certainly right, would have to be higher than 13% and or have some performance kickers.

Coogs 06-01-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Lex (Post 14999130)
One thing to remember is his cap number the next two years is like $5 million a year. It would still be a large raise the next few years, and then jump as the cap jumps. You’re certainly right, would have to be higher than 13% and or have some performance kickers.

5+ million this year. Next year is just short of 25 million.

Kidd Lex 06-01-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14999166)
5+ million this year. Next year is just short of 25 million.

Damn, the 5th year option really jumps. Thanks for sharing, that takes away some value.


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