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Bearcat 09-14-2017 04:58 PM

New Feature: Up/Down Voting Posts
 
We have been playing around with up/down vote functionality for the past couple of weeks and just activated it in the Lounge prior to this thread.

1. Everyone can vote a post up or down. The vote totals themselves show up on the bottom right of the post. You can't vote on your own posts (the up/down vote is hidden), but you will see the totals once it's voted on.
2. If a post meets some criteria for being "good," the post will be given a yellow border (so that others are drawn to the "good posts" in a big thread).
3. Similarly, if a post meets some criteria for a "bad post," it will be shaded. If a post meets criteria for a "terrible post," it will be shown collapsed with a red bar. The red bar of a collapsed post shows the user's name, and you can click a button at the right to show the post.
4. This functionality doesn't mess with the order of posts.

I'm using "some criteria" only because we're sure it'll change. The border, shading, and collapsed posts are based on the difference between up and down votes, not a total number of one or the other. We'll be making adjustments based on usage, especially with collapsed posts.

We have questions about whether it'll work here vs a place like reddit. A few of us like the idea while others have brought up legitimate concerns. In the end, we decided to roll it out, at least temporarily.

This is a trial run.

We'll give it a week or two depending on how things go, then we'll put it to a vote as long as it's not an obviously terrible idea. The goal is make threads a little easier to scroll through -- easier to find the best contributions and easier to scroll past the trolling and derailments. We aren't out to completely hide posts and will adjust as needed to keep that percentage really low, or based on your feedback.

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2017 05:04 PM

This should be especially fun for us outsiders.

DaFace 09-14-2017 05:04 PM

This is a horrible idea!!!!!


(Now you ****ers have to figure out whether to vote this post up or down. :evil:)

ChiefGator 09-14-2017 05:06 PM

This is a great idea.. I have wanted to "like" posts for some time, without just putting in a message that says... "YEAH.. THAT.."

DaFace 09-14-2017 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 13080893)
This is a great idea.. I have wanted to "like" posts for some time, without just putting in a message that says... "YEAH.. THAT.."

Yeah, I personally think it'll be a nice feature if we can find the right limits for the various actions described in the OP. I'd love to be able to peruse a 500+ post thread and see a gold box every page or two that highlights quality posts.

Conversely, if someone's just mucking up threads all over the place, I'd love for the mods to not have to be the ones to make the call for a user getting booted for the thread and to let the community figure it out collectively.

But time will tell if it actually works or not.

Discuss Thrower 09-14-2017 05:14 PM

Interesting to see what will happen to certain posts from a few specific users...

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13080909)
Interesting to see what will happen to certain posts from a few specific users...

LOL, "certain" posts, "specific" users...

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Graystoke 09-14-2017 05:22 PM

Will it be in DC?

Voting myself thumbs down.
I see it is

stumppy 09-14-2017 05:24 PM

So, you're saying my posts will be blacked out, collapsed, and have flames coming off of them ?

MTG#10 09-14-2017 05:28 PM

I personally, think its bullshit that you cant up or down vote the op. MAKE IT HAPPEN DAFACE, YOU SONOFABITCH

Bearcat 09-14-2017 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 13080922)
Will it be in DC?

Voting myself thumbs down.
I see it is

Is there such thing as a "good" post in DC? Want us to just put a thumbs down icon in DC?

DaFace 09-14-2017 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13080931)
I personally, think its bullshit that you cant up or down vote the op. MAKE IT HAPPEN DAFACE, YOU SONOFABITCH

I know. It does really screwy things when the OP ends up hidden, unfortunately.

listopencil 09-14-2017 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13080890)
This is a horrible idea!!!!!


(Now you ****ers have to figure out whether to vote this post up or down. :evil:)

I was going to try to come up with random troll post to test the thumbs down function but you already had several on this one. I'll just go with the flow and give this post a thumbs down.

MTG#10 09-14-2017 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13080941)
I know. It does really screwy things when the OP ends up hidden, unfortunately.

Good point.

LMAO

scho63 09-14-2017 05:42 PM

I would like to see the up posts in green and the down posts in red

They are a little hard to see but I love the idea

Congrats on roll out

lewdog 09-14-2017 05:43 PM

I think it's just gonna turn into another form of popularity or shamming.

Like me going around and putting a thumbs down on all of Billay's posts.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13080955)
I think it's just gonna turn into another form of popularity or shamming.

Like me going around and putting a thumbs down on all of Billay's posts.

LMAO

scho63 09-14-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13080955)
I think it's just gonna turn into another form of popularity or shamming.

Like me going around and putting a thumbs down on all of Billay's posts.

It may cut down on extra responses or back and forth responses.

We shall see! :hmmm:

TimBone 09-14-2017 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13080955)
I think it's just gonna turn into another form of popularity or shamming.

Like me going around and putting a thumbs down on all of Billay's posts.

Use it correctly you butt****ing moron.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 05:46 PM

I've been a member here for 12 years. I've NEVER neg repped someone.

I can guarantee you I'll be down voting the **** out of the resident dumbasses though.

listopencil 09-14-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13080953)
I would like to see the up posts in green and the down posts in red

They are a little hard to see but I love the idea

Congrats on roll out

The thumb icons themselves are green (up) and red (down) once they have been clicked on.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2017 05:47 PM

You're ****ed, Tiger.

listopencil 09-14-2017 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13080961)
I've been a member here for 12 years. I've NEVER neg repped someone.

I can guarantee you I'll be down voting the **** out of the resident dumbasses though.


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lewdog 09-14-2017 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBone (Post 13080960)
Use it correctly you butt****ing moron.

Eat shit Mod****!

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Bearcat 09-14-2017 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13080909)
Interesting to see what will happen to certain posts from a few specific users...

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13080920)
LOL, "certain" posts, "specific" users...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13080964)
You're ****ed, Tiger.

LMAO

scho63 09-14-2017 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13080961)
I've been a member here for 12 years. I've NEVER neg repped someone.

You are either a really really nice guy, a cuck or gay beyond belief. :rolleyes:

Did you not know how to NEG REP someone? :hmmm:

threebag 09-14-2017 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13080902)
Yeah, I personally think it'll be a nice feature if we can find the right limits for the various actions described in the OP. I'd love to be able to peruse a 500+ post thread and see a gold box every page or two that highlights quality posts.

Conversely, if someone's just mucking up threads all over the place, I'd love for the mods to not have to be the ones to make the call for a user getting booted for the thread and to let the community figure it out collectively.

But time will tell if it actually works or not.

Great another ****ing mob tool.

Buehler445 09-14-2017 05:51 PM

Soooo..... Boobs?

I vote moron instead of getting hidden, get replaced by boob pics. Like cycle through some album on imgur on Allison Stokke or something.

One of my favorite pastimes is turning idiot threads into boob threads. If we could automate the system that would be outstanding.

scho63 09-14-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 13080963)
The thumb icons themselves are green (up) and red (down) once they have been clicked on.

Just caught that thanks!:clap:

lewdog 09-14-2017 05:53 PM

How many likes do you have to get to get the post noticed?

None of my posts have a yellow border yet?

Hammock Parties 09-14-2017 05:55 PM

You can't upvote/downvote OPs?

Discuss Thrower 09-14-2017 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13080978)
If we could automate the system that would be outstanding.

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TimBone 09-14-2017 05:57 PM

Can as many people as possible please downvote post #3? I want to see the effects in action so I can see if they affect the forum on tapatalk.

Also, it doesn't show who is doing the up/down voting at all, huh?

Edit: Sorry, daface. I only mentioned your post because it already had the most downvotes.

listopencil 09-14-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13080987)
You can't upvote/downvote OPs?

That would screw with the flow of the conversation. You'll have to settle for shaming the author of the OP into deleting it.

ClevelandBronco 09-14-2017 05:57 PM

I don't see them. Is it because I'm running the black beta skin? Mobile? iOS? Denver thing?

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13080975)
You are either a really really nice guy, a cuck or gay beyond belief. :rolleyes:

Did you not know how to NEG REP someone? :hmmm:

I know how.

Just feel like I'd rather call them an asshole in public rather than hiding behind rep.

JMO.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBone (Post 13080992)
Can as many people as possible please downvote post #3? I want to see the effects in action so I can see if they affect the forum on tapatalk.

Also, it doesn't show who is doing the up/down voting at all, huh?

Edit: Sorry, daface. I only mentioned your post because it already had the most downvotes.

11 downvotes and I can still see that bitch.

WTF, Face?

LMAO

Bearcat 09-14-2017 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 13080995)
I don't see them. Is it because I'm running the black beta skin? Mobile? iOS? Denver thing?

It's because of the black template... I can add it, but not sure how well they'll show up with that background.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 13080995)
I don't see them. Is it because I'm running the black beta skin? Mobile? iOS? Denver thing?

Black beta skin?

Once you go black...

Buehler445 09-14-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 13080995)
I don't see them. Is it because I'm running the black beta skin? Mobile? iOS? Denver thing?

Blame it on Smellway. **** Donk Forever.

listopencil 09-14-2017 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13081004)
11 downvotes and I can still see that bitch.

WTF, Face?

LMAO

As of right now it has 4 ups and 13 downs. So it has a net rating of negative nine. From the OP:

The border, shading, and collapsed posts are based on the difference between up and down votes, not a total number of one or the other.

Everybody's gotta thumb a little harder here.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 13081027)
As of right now it has 4 ups and 13 downs. So it has a net rating of negative nine. From the OP:

The border, shading, and collapsed posts are based on the difference between up and down votes, not a total number of one or the other.

Everybody's gotta thumb a little harder here.

Still, that's a pretty negative ratio. That's like 75% negative.

WTF does it take?

Hydrae 09-14-2017 06:13 PM

At a deficit of 11 post 3 went gray.

Bearcat 09-14-2017 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 13080995)
I don't see them. Is it because I'm running the black beta skin? Mobile? iOS? Denver thing?

You should see them now.

Hydrae 09-14-2017 06:14 PM

At work style does not have vote buttons. That is my default! :deevee:

It also does not change post #3 with this style

Hammock Parties 09-14-2017 06:15 PM

If a post gets 10 downvotes it should be collapsed.

Hydrae 09-14-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13081038)
If a post gets 10 downvotes it should be collapsed.

I like it being a difference situation. Maybe a percentage rather than a hard number.

Also the incremental move of greying it out is good. There should be very few actual collapsed posts IMO.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:17 PM

I still want access to the black skin. Sounds awesome.

Bearcat 09-14-2017 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13081037)
At work style does not have vote buttons. That is my default! :deevee:

It also does not change post #3 with this style

Yeah, I'm playing with those now. Sorry in advance if I break it.

Bearcat 09-14-2017 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13081045)
I still want access to the black skin. Sounds awesome.

Dark Mode beta at the bottom left of any page.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModCat (Post 13081047)
Dark Mode beta at the bottom left of any page.

Giddy the mother**** up.

SO much better.

Thanks! I'll upvote!

listopencil 09-14-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13081032)
Still, that's a pretty negative ratio. That's like 75% negative.

WTF does it take?

I think the idea here is to err on the side of caution. Genuine boring shit posts most likely won't have a problem meeting the goals. And they can alter the goals if necessary anyway.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13081045)
I still want access to the black skin. Sounds awesome.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/90/4c/5...llout-meme.jpg

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModCat (Post 13081047)
Dark Mode beta at the bottom left of any page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13081052)

LMAO

YOU'RE MISSING OUT

DaFace 09-14-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBone (Post 13080992)
Can as many people as possible please downvote post #3? I want to see the effects in action so I can see if they affect the forum on tapatalk.

Also, it doesn't show who is doing the up/down voting at all, huh?

Edit: Sorry, daface. I only mentioned your post because it already had the most downvotes.

Na, downvote it to hell. The nice thing about this system is that it's post-specific, so it's not like I have some aura of shitty posts hanging around me or anything.

TimBone 09-14-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13081038)
If a post gets 10 downvotes it should be collapsed.

You don't think there's enough people on this board that dislike you enough to get every one of your posts to ten downvotes?

TimBone 09-14-2017 06:28 PM

Daface's post is now grayed out.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2017 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBone (Post 13081069)
You don't think there's enough people on this board that dislike you enough to get every one of your posts to ten downvotes?

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/08/08526...cdffec16d4.jpg

Hydrae 09-14-2017 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBone (Post 13081074)
Daface's post is now grayed out.

And it is a lighter grey than the background in the Dark Mode Beta style. :thumb:

Bearcat 09-14-2017 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13081037)
At work style does not have vote buttons. That is my default! :deevee:

It also does not change post #3 with this style

You should see them now.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-14-2017 06:40 PM

Thread derailments are what make Chiefsmy micropenissplanet.

Pablo 09-14-2017 06:42 PM

I see 50 shades of grey in teabag and tiger's future.

hometeam 09-14-2017 06:42 PM

Sooooo do we have an option to turn it off in our user options?? Because we know from reddit that it just becomes an echo chamber.

TBH, its a shit idea.

Bugeater 09-14-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 13081002)
I know how.

Just feel like I'd rather call them an asshole in public rather than hiding behind rep.

JMO.

I admire your restraint. I ****ing blast people all the time.

DaFace 09-14-2017 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13081105)
Sooooo do we have an option to turn it off in our user options?? Because we know from reddit that it just becomes an echo chamber.

TBH, its a shit idea.

Eh, reddit's entire interface is based on voting. This will have a pretty minimal impact on your actual experience here.

Bugeater 09-14-2017 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13081066)
Na, downvote it to hell. The nice thing about this system is that it's post-specific, so it's not like I have some aura of shitty posts hanging around me or anything.

Give us some time. We will destroy you.

hometeam 09-14-2017 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13081112)
Eh, reddit's entire interface is based on voting. This will have a pretty minimal impact on your actual experience here.


It works for reddit because its reddit. It works because there are millions of users. Here its a bunch of people with a lot of history, and the same couple hundred 'faces' over and over.

Here we are immature enough that its just gonna be a suckfest to see which echo is the loudest.

Shit idea.

SAUTO 09-14-2017 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13081126)
It works for reddit because its reddit. It works because there are millions of users. Here its a bunch of people with a lot of history, and the same couple hundred 'faces' over and over.

Here we are immature enough that its just gonna be a suckfest to see which echo is the loudest.

Shit idea.

You scared? :D

hometeam 09-14-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MODSAUTO (Post 13081128)
You scared? :D

Nah,

I just know from years of being here that many times good posts go against the grain~

Discuss Thrower 09-14-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13081126)
It works for reddit because its reddit. It works because there are millions of users. Here its a bunch of people with a lot of history, and the same couple hundred 'faces' over and over.

Here we are immature enough that its just gonna be a suckfest to see which echo is the loudest.

Shit idea.

It doesn't work for reddit; anything that counters the current accepted narrative of the hive mind gets wiped off the site and seen by maybe a fraction of total users.

Hydrae 09-14-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModCat (Post 13081093)
You should see them now.

Up voted! :thumb:

Post #3 is grey as expected as well so all functions are active and working fine.

hometeam 09-14-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13081143)
It doesn't work for reddit; anything that counters the current accepted narrative of the hive mind gets wiped off the site and seen by maybe a fraction of total users.

Yea thats what im saying. It does work in the way that its made reddit popular, and likely spawned this idea as well~ I suppose here it depends on the vote thresholds and whatever, and you can always uncollapse a post, but its just like... why?

Just seems like an annoyance.

DaFace 09-14-2017 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13081126)
It works for reddit because its reddit. It works because there are millions of users. Here its a bunch of people with a lot of history, and the same couple hundred 'faces' over and over.

Here we are immature enough that its just gonna be a suckfest to see which echo is the loudest.

Shit idea.

Who knows, that's the experiment. But just to make sure it's clear, our vision is that only a tiny portion of posts are impacted beyond the numbers on the post itself (which basically do nothing other than show you the vote counts).

If more than 1% of posts are being hidden or 5% of posts are being highlighted, we're doing it wrong and will probably consider adjusting the limits.

DaFace 09-14-2017 07:00 PM

Hell, I'm enjoying watching my post creep closer to being hidden. ROFL

Sandy Vagina 09-14-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13081104)
I see 50 shades of grey in teabag and tiger's future.

https://media.giphy.com/media/SsBbqQeJKVCTu/giphy.gif

hometeam 09-14-2017 07:03 PM

At least tags where funny~

DadLeft4Cigarettes 09-14-2017 07:03 PM

I catch anybone down votin my post I will look for them in reel live

TimBone 09-14-2017 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadLeft4Cigarettes (Post 13081166)
I catch anybone down votin my post I will look for them in reel live

Downvote SR!

Eleazar 09-14-2017 07:08 PM

Tags are much better, and funny.

Besides it's a lot of work downvoting every post

TimBone 09-14-2017 07:11 PM

I just noticed, once you vote on a post, that's it. No taking it back. I just clicked on one by mistake, and can't change it.


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