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Eleazar 10-17-2017 09:09 AM

Chiefs’ running game seeks answers following brutal effort vs. Steelers
 
Chiefs’ running game seeks answers following brutal effort vs. Steelers


BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR
tpaylor@kcstar.com



Somewhat lost in the Chiefs’ inability to slow down running back Le’Veon Bell in their 19-13 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday was their equally distressing inability to get any semblance of a ground game going.

The Chiefs ranked second in the NFL in rushing entering the contest at 156 yards per game, and boasted the NFL’s leading rusher in rookie sensation Kareem Hunt. Yet the Steelers’ 28th-ranked run defense limited the Chiefs to a mere 28 yards on 15 carries, easily one of the worst rushing outputs of coach Andy Reid’s five-year tenure in Kansas City.

“Honestly, we were just hurting ourselves,” said Hunt, who rushed nine times for 21 yards Sunday after averaging more than 100 yards in his first five contests. “We just have to come out and play fast and play harder.”

Much of the Chiefs’ struggles in this area had to do with Pittsburgh, however. The Steelers appeared to focus heavily on taking away the run, as linebackers consistently crashed gaps while defensive linemen Stephon Tuitt, Cam Heyward and Javon Hargrave took turns defeating their blockers.

“They’re gonna be aware of Kareem, just because of the success he’s been having, early on, running the football,” Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy said.

The Chiefs had a little success when they ran their power-based plays with pulling linemen, but they only dialed those up a few times, instead eschewing those concepts for zone running plays — where linemen all flow to one side, simultaneously creating cutback lanes — that have been so good to them this season.

The Steelers were all over those, however, as the Chiefs’ starting offensive line — which was down a pair of starters in center Mitch Morse and right guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif — consistently broke down.

And while you could argue the Chiefs simply got impatient with the running game, it’s worth noting that the Chiefs’ lack of success on the ground came despite the fact that the Chiefs often had an “even” box count (the same number of blockers vs. defenders) or even a one-blocker advantage.

Perhaps that’s why the Chiefs threw it 19 more times than they ran it Sunday, despite the fact they’ve generally done a nice job this season mixing the run and pass.

“It’s important to be a balanced football team on offense — you can’t be one-dimensional,” Nagy said. “Being balanced is one of the things I think we’ve done a good job at this year, and depending on the tempo of the game or score of the game, that may swing a little bit one way or another.

“But again … unfortunately for us offensively, it just was a weird day. Things weren’t clicking.”

It speaks to Hunt’s talent that he still finished with 110 yards from scrimmage. It marked his sixth straight game with at least 100 total yards from scrimmage, making him the first NFL rookie to do that. Future Hall-of-Famer Adrian Peterson is the only other player to do so for the first five games of his career.

“For a running back, there’s all different types of phases, so yeah, OK, his numbers weren’t real great running the ball, but he did some great things catching the ball,” Nagy said. “He made some big-time plays when the ball was in his hands, receiving.”

“I have all the confidence in the world that he’s gonna step up this week again, and when we hand the ball off to him, he’ll making positive things happen.”

The Chiefs won’t have much time this week to fix their issues; they head to Oakland to face the Raiders on Thursday night. The Raiders rank 21st in the league vs. the run and surrendered 90 yards on 20 carries in their 17-16 loss to the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunday.

The Chiefs might see a new face in the backfield Thursday, too, as they signed veteran C.J. Spiller for the fourth time in a year on Monday. Spiller offers insurance in case third-down back Charcandrick West, who entered concussion protocol in Sunday's loss to the Steelers, is not able to play vs. the Raiders.

Either way, the Chiefs hope to respond to the disappointing defeat like the Steelers did Sunday following their 30-9 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars a week prior.

“Teams bounce back — we can go there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “They were getting beat by the Jags and they bounced back, so you do the same thing. That’s this league.”


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TambaBerry 10-17-2017 09:20 AM

the answers are, we have three backup shitty players in the interior of the line

carcosa 10-17-2017 09:20 AM

Is it just me or have we forgotten all the motion and misdirection stuff that worked so well for us early in the season? Wouldn't that help open some holes up? Sometimes it seems like as soon as something proves successful, Andy hates doing it anymore. The ultimate not-broke-fixer.

Hoover 10-17-2017 09:21 AM

Morse, LDT, and Ehinger?

The Franchise 10-17-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13157818)
Is it just me or have we forgotten all the motion and misdirection stuff that worked so well for us early in the season? Wouldn't that help open some holes up? Sometimes it seems like as soon as something proves successful, Andy hates doing it anymore. The ultimate not-broke-fixer.

Steelers defense is fast. Don't think it would have worked for them if we had used it more.

Rain Man 10-17-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13157818)
Is it just me or have we forgotten all the motion and misdirection stuff that worked so well for us early in the season? Wouldn't that help open some holes up? Sometimes it seems like as soon as something proves successful, Andy hates doing it anymore. The ultimate not-broke-fixer.

I was just about to ask that myself. No jet sweeps to Tyreek, no shovel passes to Kelce...it seems like the offense went vanilla about two games ago.

RunKC 10-17-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13157822)
Steelers defense is fast. Don't think it would have worked for them if we had used it more.

I wish we would have at least tried. It's bullshit that Andy is so stupid to not use the Kelce option with Tyreek and Hunt in the backfield on that 4th down try.

that play literally has not failed one time all season.

Rain Man 10-17-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13157821)
Morse, LDT, and Ehinger?

I'll grant you the other two, but Ehinger is a mid-round rookie with four career starts. Until he comes back, I view him as a larger Brad Cottam.

The Franchise 10-17-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13157826)
I wish we would have at least tried. It's bullshit that Andy is so stupid to not use the Kelce option with Tyreek and Hunt in the backfield on that 4th down try.

that play literally has not failed one time all season.

Oh don't get me wrong....we should have been using it until they proved that they could shut it down consistently. Reid and the offense got punched in the mouth and decided to ****ing give up until the 3rd quarter.

O.city 10-17-2017 09:25 AM

When you get behind early it's tough to keep running it, especially when it ain't working

I'm gonna go with 3 backup interior OL as a problem

Red Dawg 10-17-2017 09:27 AM

OL is sucking ass. They sucked as in Houston as well.

Dartgod 10-17-2017 09:32 AM

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Yet the Steelers’ 28th-ranked run defense limited the Chiefs to a mere 28 yards on 15 carries, easily one of the worst rushing outputs of coach Andy Reid’s five-year tenure in Kansas City.
Why does this seem to happen a lot with this team? We can't run against a shitty run defense. Can't get pressure on the QB against a shitty O-line?

Can anyone explain that, besides "because Chiefs"?

RunKC 10-17-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13157847)
Why does this seem to happen a lot with this team? We can't run against a shitty run defense. Can't get pressure on the QB against a shitty O-line?

Can anyone explain that, besides "because Chiefs"?

It was an OL full of backups on Sunday. Last year we could run on them. Ware had over 4 YPC and a TD in the playoff game.

But Andy only gave Ware the rock 8 times because Andy is a pass first moron when we need him to run the damn ball.

wazu 10-17-2017 09:44 AM

It also helps the run game if run plays are actually called. How many were there in the first half?

Easy 6 10-17-2017 09:45 AM

Even with all starters present, they're something of a finesse line that favors mobility over brute force... then throw 3 backups into the interior, and you've got a recipe for tough sledding against physical teams


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