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KChiefs1 04-07-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 13506730)
Not sure if it made it into the other thread before this one was made, but Royals re-signed Zimmer to a minor league deal.


Good

Titty Meat 04-07-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13506977)
For someone who hates baseball, you sure post a lot here.

And I'm also right alot.

Some lean years ahead but can we talk about what a stud Junis is? Duncan do you think he'll be around for the next wave of winning or eventually traded for a few more pieces?

BigCatDaddy 04-07-2018 02:01 PM

What about pulling a Salvy and locking him up early at a cheap rate? He will be late 20s when the next wave comes up. Maybe the James Shields of that group

Chiefspants 04-07-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13507024)
And I'm also right alot.

Some lean years ahead but can we talk about what a stud Junis is? Duncan do you think he'll be around for the next wave of winning or eventually traded for a few more pieces?

You weren’t right about a few things last season, dude, and why you had issues here is that you never acknowledged it and instead doubled down instead of having nuanced conversations about the issues.

No one was giving us anything for Hosmer, Cain, Moose or Esky. We got more value from the draft picks we got for them than we would have from selling them.

In 2016, we tried to trade Cain and Wade (and eventually traded Wade and Dyson). No one wanted Eric groundball Hosmer and Moose had torn his ACL, eviscerating his value.

While you had merit to critique Moore’s desire to buy-buy-buy (especially last offseason) just dropping in to say “THEY SHOULD BLOW THE TEAM UP - I WAS RIGHT” isn’t actually saying anything, because there was no way to blow the team up when we weren’t getting anything back for the pieces you were advocating we should trade.

With that said, I hope you stick around - and I do hope we can compromise on this issue here - because I do genuinely like your takes.

Titty Meat 04-07-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13507134)
You weren’t right about a few things last season, dude, and why you had issues here is that you never acknowledged it and instead doubled down instead of having nuanced conversations about the issues.

No one was giving us anything for Hosmer, Cain, Moose or Esky. We got more value from the draft picks we got for them than we would have from selling them.

In 2016, we tried to trade Cain and Wade (and eventually traded Wade and Dyson). No one wanted Eric groundball Hosmer and Moose had torn his ACL, eviscerating his value.

While you had merit to critique Moore’s desire to buy-buy-buy (especially last offseason) just dropping in to say “THEY SHOULD BLOW THE TEAM UP - I WAS RIGHT” isn’t actually saying anything, because there was no way to blow the team up when we weren’t getting anything back for the pieces you were advocating we should trade.

With that said, I hope you stick around - and I do hope we can compromise on this issue here - because I do genuinely like your takes.

I appreciate it and we will agree to disagree on somethings but that's in the past now. It is disheartening seeing some jump off the bandwagon. Losing sucks but it's fun watching guys come up. Moore has made some boneheaded mistakes in the past but nothing like Allard Baird or Herk Robinson. I trust that he will be able to add talent again. In the meantime enjoy the few good players we have and hopefully ticket prices drop. Fun times at the ball park getting plastered with friends!

Titty Meat 04-07-2018 02:52 PM

Also not to be dismissive of your point Chiefs and Duncan you're right the value back was minimal at best but even if they made it to the playoffs last year's team wasn't doing shit. Again we'll agree to disagree but the process was delayed a year. Suppose in the long run it won't matter much.

Pitt Gorilla 04-07-2018 03:49 PM

To allard moore’s Credit, if you’re going to suck, suck while the Yankees are good.

Pitt Gorilla 04-07-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13506670)
Yes. Probably the two highest upside position players outside of Seuly Matias.

They spent huge money on Matias and got put in the penalty box for signing LA players as a result. Would be cool if one of their big money international signings lived up to the hype




I’ll never have a problem with them going for it before 2016 (and no one should, ever. You don’t dismantle a WS winner two years before you have to) or before 2017. After so many decades of having no chance to win, it was RIGHT for them to try to maximize that group of players and go for it.

Considering the garbage returns available for position players in 2017 at the deadline, there’s also no problem with keeping guys (not to mention the fact they were in the driver’s seat for a playoff spot at that point).

Jay, Moustakas, and Duda are no-risk propositions. Short deals that don’t block anyone this year who deserves a shot and major Pt.

Even though none is likely to bring a major return at the deadline (though needs could be different and shift that market this year, who knows?) it’s also not a bad thing to have some trade capitol.

The Braves, particularly, if they stay in it could be a good match for Moustakas. They have a deep farm system and could move an interesting pitching prospect for him if they decide to go for it. Their 3B stud prospect, Austin Riley, probably isn’t ready to help this year, but an upgrade at that spot could help them a ton if they’re trying to make a push in 2018.

Agree on jay, moose, and Duda, especially if you can flip one for a prospect. I’d love to hear your thoughts on the soria trade. How did that fit into the plan?

KChiefs1 04-07-2018 04:42 PM

Herrera is going to be worth a lot in July if he keeps this up.

duncan_idaho 04-07-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13507024)
And I'm also right alot.



Some lean years ahead but can we talk about what a stud Junis is? Duncan do you think he'll be around for the next wave of winning or eventually traded for a few more pieces?


He doesn’t even have a year of service time yet, so this is technically his first year (of six) of team control.

I like Junis a lot, as I mention d earlier this week in the old thread. I’m a believer that he can be a good 2/3 type starter with sustaining the changes he made in August of last year (basically, he started throwing a sinker, too).

He’s not even arb eligible until 2021 at this point. I think he’ll be around for the next wave of winning, barring injury.

Best22 04-07-2018 05:12 PM

Kennedy, Junis, and Duda will singlehandedly lead us to a division title

Great Expectations 04-07-2018 06:28 PM

Kennedy looked good today. I haven't been supporting him, but the 1 out strikeout with the runner on third was great pitching.

lewdog 04-07-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13507024)
And I'm also right alot.

Some lean years ahead but can we talk about what a stud Junis is? Duncan do you think he'll be around for the next wave of winning or eventually traded for a few more pieces?

I’ve been right about the Chiefs for 20+ years.

But at least I like football, douche.

KCTitus 04-07-2018 07:56 PM

another ****ing baseball thread to put on ignore...love that feature.

TambaBerry 04-07-2018 08:21 PM

Bauer is a whiny little bitch lol did you guys see his postgame comments?


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