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petegz28 10-17-2021 12:36 PM

WTF is with Mahomes?
 
Since the Super Bowl the dude has not looked right. Now he is just flat playing with his head in his ass.

I think he needs to get over himself a bit. He has 2 critical INT's this season that are 100% his fault that he had 0% reason to every try and it cost us points, 1 game and maybe 2.

loochy 10-17-2021 12:38 PM

Too many TV commercials!

TLO 10-17-2021 12:40 PM

He's pressing. Trying to win the game on every play.

His receivers aren't doing him any favors either.

petegz28 10-17-2021 12:40 PM

Oh and the dropped snaps.....

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 12:42 PM

He is trying to do too much because his defense can't get their head out of their ass and because his receivers keep making mistake after mistake. That last int is the classic dumb mistake from a qb who doesn't trust his defense to protect a tie game.

Why Not? 10-17-2021 12:42 PM

Whole team sucks. Kelce and Butker are the only players who have performed up to expectations

carcosa 10-17-2021 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898300)
Since the Super Bowl the dude has not looked right. Now he is just flat playing with his head in his ass.

I think he needs to get over himself a bit. He has 2 critical INT's that are 100% his fault that he had 0% reason to every try and it cost us points, 1 game and maybe 2.

Get over himself? You think this is arrogance? Lmao you ****in idiot

He's trying to make something happen because no one else on this team except for Kelce is doing jack shit. He needs help, not your moronic psychiatric diagnosis.

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 12:43 PM

He got paid...

lewdog 10-17-2021 12:44 PM

I don't feel like he trusts his offensive teammates outside of Kelce and Hill.

And to be fair, we don't have a good WR2. Not even JAG at WR2.

Chiefspants 10-17-2021 12:44 PM

Dude is pressing.

Hell, he was pressing against Cleveland, the difference was that him playing hero ball worked after we were in a 9 point hole with 10 minutes in the 4th quarter.

carcosa 10-17-2021 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898378)
He got paid...

Interesting theory, dumbass

Archie Bunker 10-17-2021 12:44 PM

Just due for a season like this. As a player, as a team, etc the law of averages says it was only a matter of time.

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 12:44 PM

LOL, $400M for what we're seeing. Wow, just WOW!

Maybe his salary explains a few things.

BryanBusby 10-17-2021 12:45 PM

Everything is in a funk. That last INT was the dumbest ****ing pass I saw Pat ever make.

UK_Chief 10-17-2021 12:45 PM

I blame Clyde

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15898385)
Interesting theory, dumbass

I'm laughing that you think he's earning his $400M with all these quality INTs...

You're a moron...

Wisconsin_Chief 10-17-2021 12:46 PM

The coaching staff is sending him out there without any sort of plan for how to beat this new defensive approach, and he’s just whipping in around like he’s back Texas Tech because he feels like he has no choice.

We’re in trouble.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 12:46 PM

My God fans are insufferable right now.

ThyKingdomCome15 10-17-2021 12:47 PM

It's as much Andy as it is Mahomes.

KurtCobain 10-17-2021 12:47 PM

For the first time ever, I'm mad at him for that play. But, he'll be fine. Nothing wrong with him. Same kid that can take a team to the promised land, just trying to do too much on a bad team.

petegz28 10-17-2021 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15898396)
Everything is in a funk. That last INT was the dumbest ****ing pass I saw Pat ever make.

Since the Ravens game you mean...

Best22 10-17-2021 12:47 PM

Team is not mentally right

From the HC, QB, on down.

Mahomes has been in tough situations before but he always knew what to do with a fumble and played high IQ ball. This is something we’ve never seen from him.

Overall the whole offense isn’t all there.

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 12:47 PM

LOL at Under-Reaction Planet.

Iconic 10-17-2021 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15898412)
My God fans are insufferable right now.

Bout the only thing I can say after reading all these threads

louie aguiar 10-17-2021 12:48 PM

He’s rattled. It’s in his head. He’s not playing with the same level of confidence.

-King- 10-17-2021 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15898412)
My God fans are insufferable right now.

Do you think he's playing well right now?

cdcox 10-17-2021 12:48 PM

He's human after all. He'll get it straightened out.

petegz28 10-17-2021 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15898410)
The coaching staff is sending him out there without any sort of plan for how to beat this new defensive approach, and he’s just whipping in around like he’s back Texas Tech because he feels like he has no choice.

We’re in trouble.

Uh no. He is late to his check downs because he wants to always hit the big play, he is making crap throws, he is taking his eye off the snaps and he is making bad decisions.

Coaching plays into it but I am talking about Mahomes.

comochiefsfan 10-17-2021 12:51 PM

Mahomes has not been good but he's not the biggest problem.

Him figuring it out is the least of my worries.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15898441)
Do you think he's playing well right now?

Did I say he was? You have fans on this thread calling him overpaid and arrogant.

JakeF 10-17-2021 12:52 PM

We are running a different offense now and Mahomes is struggling to adjust

When Mahomes came into the league we were throwing the ball all the time. Mahomes was playing sandlot, running around, make defenses adjust to him.

Now we are telling Mahomes to stay in the pocket and hand the ball off a lot.

Some QBs get on a roll by throwing the ball on every day. Throwing the ball on 3rd and long after running it twice is different. Ask every QB that played for Schottenheimer.

Our OTs are meant to run block and defend a spot in the pocket. It's different.

comochiefsfan 10-17-2021 12:52 PM

Chiefs fans turning on Patrick ****ing Mahomes is definitely not something I expected to see this year.

We suck right now but chill the hell out on burying Mahomes.

LiveSteam 10-17-2021 12:54 PM

Half a billion dollars will change a man

carcosa 10-17-2021 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898406)
I'm laughing that you think he's earning his $400M with all these quality INTs...

You're a moron...

Kill yourself

JakeF 10-17-2021 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15898487)
Chiefs fans turning on Patrick ****ing Mahomes is definitely not something I expected to see this year.

We suck right now but chill the hell out on burying Mahomes.

We are playing a different offense now ... Yes or No?

-King- 10-17-2021 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15898476)
Did I say he was? You have fans on this thread calling him overpaid and arrogant.

You're the first and only person in this thread to even say anything like that LMAO. Closest to that was Glorydayz and glorydayz only.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-17-2021 12:56 PM

Moving the ball up and down the field every week. Can't win in the NFL with this many turnovers, bad snaps, and untimely penalties....oh and add shanked punts

petegz28 10-17-2021 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15898550)
We are playing a different offense now ... Yes or No?

No

Titty Meat 10-17-2021 12:57 PM

He needs to leave his bug eyed wife

Imon Yourside 10-17-2021 12:57 PM

He's obviously pressing because we have a HISTORICALLY bad defense. Also our receivers don't just drop balls they knock them up in the air.

nychief 10-17-2021 12:58 PM

Never have children.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15898484)
We are running a different offense now and Mahomes is struggling to adjust

When Mahomes came into the league we were throwing the ball all the time. Mahomes was playing sandlot, running around, make defenses adjust to him.

Now we are telling Mahomes to stay in the pocket and hand the ball off a lot.

Some QBs get on a roll by throwing the ball on every day. Throwing the ball on 3rd and long after running it twice is different. Ask every QB that played for Schottenheimer.

Our OTs are meant to run block and defend a spot in the pocket. It's different.

That is less on mahomes and more on the supporting cast. Possession football requires possession players. More plays means more chances to make mistakes especially with players prone to making really stupid mistakes. Our RBs need to exploit the space they're given. Our WRs can't keep making stupid mistakes.

Thats silly for people to say he refuses to take what he's given. The problem is even when he plays a remarkably efficient game his supporting cast finds ways to **** it up.

Bearcat 10-17-2021 12:58 PM

Chiefs defense sucks: The offense has to be perfect every drive!!

Mahomes throws a few picks because he's trying to be perfect every drive: Dude just needs to get over himself!

lewdog 10-17-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898434)
LOL at Under-Reaction Planet.

You think Mahomes is checking it in because he got paid?

That's where your critical thinking skills have lead you?

Holy ****.

Newbaumturk 10-17-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898300)
Since the Super Bowl the dude has not looked right. Now he is just flat playing with his head in his ass.

I think he needs to get over himself a bit. He has 2 critical INT's that are 100% his fault that he had 0% reason to every try and it cost us points, 1 game and maybe 2.

I'll go a step further. Ever since the Brit Reid incident this team has looked bad and deflated. Just my opinion but I think Andy Reid has a ton on his mind. He's in bad physical condition, super stressful job, and his son is probably going to prison.

bigjosh 10-17-2021 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 15898578)
He's obviously pressing because we have a HISTORICALLY bad defense. Also our receivers don't just drop balls they knock them up in the air.


I call bullshit.

The offense has been miserable all year, especially today when Washington only has 13 points after getting 3 ****ing turnovers handed to them.

JakeF 10-17-2021 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898573)
No

Before, Mahomes was running and gunning, scrambling and making 40 yard touchdown passes.

Now we are asking Mahomes to stay in the pocket, use the run, dink/dunk and make 12-14 play game controlling drives.

Totally different

Especially the part about Mahomes throwing from the pocket.

Bill Brasky 10-17-2021 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15898410)
The coaching staff is sending him out there without any sort of plan for how to beat this new defensive approach, and he’s just whipping in around like he’s back Texas Tech because he feels like he has no choice.

We’re in trouble.

I’ve never seen a profession football team deal with cover 2/ cover 3 cloud so poorly. We’re in BIG trouble because that’s all we’re going to see on Defense for the next 8 years.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15898568)
You're the first and only person in this thread to even say anything like that LMAO. Closest to that was Glorydayz and glorydayz only.

The thread starter said he needs to get over himself

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15898592)
You think Mahomes is checking it in because he got paid?

That's where your critical thinking skills have lead you?

Holy ****.

LMAO

JFC, are these yours?

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ua9M8N...id=ImgDet&rs=1

LiveSteam 10-17-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15898592)
You think Mahomes is checking it in because he got paid?

That's where your critical thinking skills have lead you?

Holy ****.

Upper middle class Patrick was way WAY better QB than uber rich Patrick.
It's an obvious observation at this point in his career

JakeF 10-17-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15898587)
That is less on mahomes and more on the supporting cast. Possession football requires possession players. More plays means more chances to make mistakes especially with players prone to making really stupid mistakes. Our RBs need to exploit the space they're given. Our WRs can't keep making stupid mistakes.

Thats silly for people to say he refuses to take what he's given. The problem is even when he plays a remarkably efficient game his supporting cast finds ways to **** it up.

I agree that this is about the supporting cast.

But that supporting cast is still putting pressure on Mahomes to adjust to them.

St. Patty's Fire 10-17-2021 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898406)
I'm laughing that you think he's earning his $400M with all these quality INTs...

You're a moron...

You are quite easily one of the dumbest posters here, if not one of the dumbest people I’ve ever interacted with, and I’ve interacted with a lot of idiots

lewdog 10-17-2021 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898627)

And that’s your rebuttal?

I asked you a question. Can you not answer?

Maybe he needs his ass chewed, right?!?!?!?

petegz28 10-17-2021 01:03 PM

AllI know is at this particular moment we are a 5-12 team ....if that

-King- 10-17-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15898612)
The thread starter said he needs to get over himself

He needs to change something. He's not even playing at a top 10 level much less a top 1 level like he has shown as he can play past couple weeks. No one on the team is playing or coaching well; no one is exempt from criticism.

JakeF 10-17-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Brasky (Post 15898608)
I’ve never seen a profession football team deal with cover 2/ cover 3 cloud so poorly. We’re in BIG trouble because that’s all we’re going to see on Defense for the next 8 years.

Andy Reid is supposed to be the passing game guru.

It's on him if we can't handle a cover 2 defense.

Defenses have been using it for a couple of years now. Andy has had time to adjust with new personnel. He didn't.

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 15898637)
Upper middle class Patrick was way WAY better QB than uber rich Patrick.
It's an obvious observation at this point in his career

Don't interrupt their "analysis". Perhaps they're about to explain that it's the way the grass has been cut in the stadiums P'Int's been playing in.

LMAO

BryanBusby 10-17-2021 01:05 PM

Guys, stop being stupid.

Patrick Mahomes didn't ****ing yakkity sax a perfectly fine snap and throw it directly to the Defense because Andy's dumb adult son plowed into a vehicle 10 months ago.

D.A.P. 10-17-2021 01:06 PM

Regression to the mean.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2021 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15898663)
He needs to change something. He's not even playing at a top 10 level much less a top 1 level like he has shown as he can play past couple weeks. No one on the team is playing or coaching well; no one is exempt from criticism.

I didn't say he was. But he is not overpaid or arrogant.

ArrowHeader 10-17-2021 01:07 PM

We have no run game. OL is shaky. He tries to do too much. Personnel issues still exist. Outside of Kelce and Hill we basically have nobody. Mahomes has never had a true prototypical WR1. Maybe Chiefs can trade for Allen Robinson. Feel bad for that guy wasting his talents in Chicago.

LiveSteam 10-17-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15898691)
Guys, stop being stupid.

Patrick Mahomes didn't ****ing yakkity sax a perfectly fine snap and throw it directly to the Defense because Andy's dumb adult son plowed into a vehicle 10 months ago.

LMAO LMAO yes he did

Jewish Rabbi 10-17-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898658)
AllI know is at this particular moment we are a 5-12 team ....if that

Pete maybe you would be happier if you drank cyanide.

Imon Yourside 10-17-2021 01:07 PM

He'll be fine, he just needs to work through this and Andy needs to fix the rest of the team.

lewdog 10-17-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898674)
Don't interrupt their "analysis". Perhaps they're about to explain that it's the way the grass has been cut in the stadiums P'Int's been playing in.

LMAO

If we make the playoffs this year, will you agree not to post in the lounge for a year?

Bearcat 10-17-2021 01:08 PM

I know this is a great moment in chicken little "because Chiefs" history if they lose this game, because it would somehow validate being a miserable **** all the time.... but, it doesn't change the fact they were a few turnovers from 4-0 against mostly playoff competition, and that the offense was incredibly efficient for the first month of the season with many long, 75+ yard drives for touchdowns.

....and I'm just reacting to the box score as I'm not watching it, but this is new. Getting stomped by the Bills.... well, it's still the Bills and not WFT.

If it wasn't for the past 5 weeks of meltdowns, I'd say this week is a great time to start, as they should be rolling these guys on any given week and especially after that loss.

Still doesn't mean they can't turn it around... but, ****, struggling against these guys stings.

petegz28 10-17-2021 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowHeader (Post 15898708)
We have no run game. OL is shaky. He tries to do too much. Personnel issues still exist. Outside of Kelce and Hill we basically have nobody. Mahomes has never had a true prototypical WR1. Maybe Chiefs can trade for Allen Robinson. Feel bad for that guy wasting his talents in Chicago.

No run game?? Are you ****ing kidding me? That's the one thing we have done well.

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15898656)
And that’s your rebuttal?

I asked you a question. Can you not answer?

Maybe he needs his ass chewed, right?!?!?!?

There's no way they'll chew his ass; so there's that.

Let's just go with "he's trying to hard". LMAO

petegz28 10-17-2021 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15898713)
Pete maybe you would be happier if you drank cyanide.

We are losing to the WFT. What team do you see us beating outside of the Giants?

MAG 10-17-2021 01:09 PM

He married that crazy chick.

carcosa 10-17-2021 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898742)
There's no way they'll chew his ass; so there's that.

Let's just go with "he's trying to hard". LMAO

Why haven't you killed yourself yet

Imon Yourside 10-17-2021 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898746)
We are losing to the WFT. What team do you see us beating outside of the Giants?

Well we had Baltimore beat until.....

lewdog 10-17-2021 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15898742)
There's no way they'll chew his ass; so there's that.

Let's just go with "he's trying to hard". LMAO

But if they did he’d play better, right?

Where is Ned Yost?!?!?!?

petegz28 10-17-2021 01:12 PM

Mahomes short arming some passes this half too...just does not look right

GloryDayz 10-17-2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 15898761)
Why haven't you killed yourself yet

Why would I?

Easy 6 10-17-2021 01:12 PM

Young was WAY offsides

lewdog 10-17-2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898778)
Mahomes short arming some passes this half too...just does not look right

Sure is.

Looks like too much thinking going on.

Jewish Rabbi 10-17-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15898746)
We are losing to the WFT. What team do you see us beating outside of the Giants?

I’m gonna be beating your wife’s cheeks soon

Imon Yourside 10-17-2021 01:14 PM

Mahomes should never have thrown that jump pass...umkay


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