Went for a 5k run and decided to run like Pacheco...
 

Doc says I broke EVERY bone in BOTH feet! If this thread gets 1,000 posts I'll post the x-rays!! Let's GOO!!!!!!!!

is your penis bone still working?

LETS ****!!!!!

LOL thanks carc.

I just imagined Pach at the start of a marathon running angry and throwing scrawny runners out of the way.

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Whats a good time for a beginner runner in a 5k?

Will be an answer to a trivia question someday..

Finishing? :shrug:

"Pacheco runs like a little kid trying on a pair of sneakers for the first time"

That quote always makes me chuckle, because it's so true.

Oh HELL YES

Carcosa SHOULD be the Chiefs 3rd down back IMHO

So you getting around like Lt. Dan these days?

carcosa is better at running than he is at trivia!!!

Yeah I don't think I can run 3.1 miles yet without stopping. I plan to run one when I can. Ive never ran more than 1.75 miles yet. Good luck to OP. Good accomplishment even with the injury.

So what you're saying is if he chose to focus on track rather than trivia he would have basically been Carl Lewis on steroids.

That is just...I can't even comprehend that statement. Unbelievable.

Well BELIEVE IT because it is TRUE!!!

26 minutes, I guess. Basically around 8-minute miles. A fast jog.

Tuthfully, I think that's a bit fast for a beginner. I'd put a true beginner at 30 minutes, but you should be able to make really rapid progress to get down to 25 minutes. After that it gets a little tougher.

Eh, maybe. Depends on a few factors, but I feel like if you're already running a mile or two a day at anything under 10-minute miles, it shouldn't take that long to get under 30 minutes/3 miles. I think I was capable of running 3 miles in under 26 minutes in 8th grade when I first started running X-C, iirc.

And I'm even better at playing the blues than I am at running!!!

Will you still be able to CUM111!!!11

ya

Well, you were #2 behind Carcosa in trivia.

I believe it.

Just going two leave this here!!!

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10 to 11 minute pace is good for a beginner. Anywhere from 31 to 32 minutes total.

I finished my first timed 5k at 30:05. Within a year of that, I had dropped more than 50 lbs and my best time was a shade under 23 minutes.

I've run roughly 1,000 miles per year for the past 11 years and almost all of my 5Ks now are from 26-29 minutes. It depends how hilly the course is and how much I want to just enjoy the scenery of any given course.

10 minute pace to 8 minute pace is a big change. Height/stride length makes a pretty big difference though. I'm a short dude so I have to work a bit harder to get to that 8 minute pace than someone that is 6'3" and 1 of his strides equals 1.5 of mine.

I got back into running a year ago and it definitely took me a few weeks to do 3.1 without having to walk at all. Have been running 3.1 just about every day since then and it's been great. My health baseline, both physical and mental, has felt much higher as a result. I typically run it in the 28-29 range because I'm not really pushing for a faster time. I just like to stay in rhythm and keep up the habit.

Today though I ran it in 10 even though every bone broke within the first couple steps!!! PURE GRIT

I'm only 5' 8" so I get it. Assuming the person is relatively healthy and of at least average height, 8 minute miles shouldn't be that hard with regular practice, imo.

I mean, I ran competitively in HS and a little in college, so maybe I'm not the right person to ask, but I was still able to run sub 8-minute miles (barely, like 7:45+) until I was around 45, with bad knees and ankles. Mostly I think it's a question of proper mechanics and breath control. I mean, 8 minute/miles is only like 7.5 mph. That's a quick jog.

Ahhh, a competitive runner when young. That explains it. I don't think I ran a full mile without walking until I turned 33 or 34 and at the time, I was badly overweight, probably 235 lbs.

You're spot on about mechanics and breath control. Most people don't think about those factors at all. But hey, I'm almost 47 and can still get miles in the low 7s but it's NOT fun. I prefer 9:30 to 10 minute pace with a good audio book in my headphones.

Lol, yeah. One of the first things I can remember my XC coach telling me was running fast was 50% pain management.


Last time I ran a timed mile, I managed 7:12, and it sucked. But it wouldn't have been possible at all if I hadn't practiced my mechanics and breath control for 3 weeks prior. I had to use pretty much every trick I knew to run that time. And my knees/ankles hurt so bad after that I couldn't run at all for three or four weeks.


Now that I think of it, you guys are probably right. The first time my brother tried to run a mile with me, he quit a little after the half-mile point. And he was physically in a lot better shape than I was. He'd just never run a mile before. Took him a couple weeks to get that first mile in, iirc. Biggest thing was the lack of breath control.

A buddy of mine told me two things about running any kind of distance a long time ago. One is that running fast hurts and you have to learn how to compartmentalize pain. The second was more of a breathing trick; I breathe in and breathe out while I count strides. The numbers subtly change as I speed up but the whole purpose of that exercise was to get my mind on something other than the burning in my legs and lungs. Now I only do the counting thing if I'm trying to pick up the pace but it still taught me a lot about breath control and forcing my brain to think of something else when it really hurts.

Also, yeah I was on the XC team and the track team in 9th/10th grades, but I wasn't the fastest on the team. Not even close. My fastest 3-mile time was 18:11, but our captain ran the same race in 16:45 or something like that. Three other guys on the team beat me to the finish line, two of them also under 18 minutes, iirc.

So I ran 'competitively,' as in I ran on the HS a team vs. other HS teams, but I wasn't super competitive in terms of times in most races.

Did you really break bones in your feet? :eek:

After I had played a season of high school basketball I ran a mile around 6:30 min. Fast forward to middle age and I can't even run much faster than an 8 minute mile and Ive been running a couple times a week for a couple of months.

Pacheco punishes the ground


At least you did not run like AP, he looked like he had a wet diaper

Watch the beginning of Macfarland, USA. First scene of the boys running past Kevin Costner's character (on their way home, I think). That's what it's supposed to look like. Forget the speed; they're moving pretty good.

Look at how quiet their upper bodies are; almost no bounce, hands/elbows moving in straight lines, not curving around their torsos, shoulders stay pretty square. Backs straight, slight lean forward, toes pointed. As my coach used to say, "less is more." minimize extra (lateral) movement in your upper body. Shoulders should be relaxed as possible. just let your arms hang and move in straight lines. Eliminates the body's need to compensate for the lateral motion, and conserves energy. Don't make fists. Kind of cup your fingers like a swimmer.

One thing you can't really see in the movie is that their running slightly pigeon-toed. Imagine there's a line running between your feet out to infinity. Try to put your big toe on that line with every stride. That's reduce your bounce and lengthen your stride. Conserves energy.


Breath on a 4 count. In through the nose and mouth for 4 seconds, out through the mouth only for 4 seconds. At first you might only be able to do 3 seconds but work towards 4. Keep your head up, almost like you're sniffing the air. That keeps your airway as open as possible.


You should be as relaxed as possible, no matter how fast you're going. Smooth is fast. Start out just working on your stride. Pick up the pace when you no longer have to think about your feet.

Yes. All of them

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Man, that's 52 bones. I hope you got a couple of those supportive boots to wear.

And remember, everybody, if you donate $19 to carcosa's foot recovery fund, he'll send you this a-dow-a-ble blanket.

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Watch out for toilets. I once knew a guy.

I’m actually running my first ever 5k this Saturday. I’ve always HATED running. But I’m in my early 40’s and stepped on the scale in December to find out I was 20lbs heavier than I thought. And I already thought I was chubby bordering fat. Walked my ass straight downstairs and got on the treadmill. Spent almost every day in December-Feb on that damn treadmill. Started with 3 miles incline walking at a fast pace for about 6 weeks until that stopped getting my heart rate as high as I wanted and then I transitioned to running. Got pretty used to running 2-3 miles almost every day and managed to shed a little over 40lbs by end of March.


All that being said, I still don’t ENJOY running. Never caught the bug like a lot of people do. I do like the fact I can do it and not die and I certainly feel better overall. But I’ve still never ran outside, only on the treadmill. So Saturday will be my first “real” 5k I’ve ever run. Kinda unsure if I expect it to be easier or tougher than down in my basement.

Figures you think it is a bone.. Sarcasm almost. I bet you eat lunch bones for a snack. :evil:

Years ago Army had a 9 minute mark. Do not know since retired but that was part of the fitness test 4 my age back then. It was based on age. TG. Ran 2 times since retiring. Damn Marines still running I bet tho..

It’s going to be harder.

Funny that you say that because I've always thought it's way easier to run on the pavement than it is on the "dread"mill. I also go way faster on the road when running a comparable pace. Not sure why, maybe it's because I started running on the road instead of the treadmill.

I checked a couple reddit running threads and the sentiment was pretty much a mixed bag. Half felt the way you do and the other half said outdoors is definitely tougher.

I tend to think it's probably dependent on what you were saying, whether you started or your primary setting in outside or not.

As a former Cross Country runner in High School, shin splints was a common thing. I'd guess you'de look similar to Cotton off the sitcom, King of the Hill. "I gots no shins"

I hate distance running. I’ve found that thinking of an imaginary scenario of me fighting helps me settle and get comfortable. In my head I’m ****ing Jet Li, fighting 10 dudes at once and whooping ass. When I snap out of my delusion I notice I’ve run a half mile and didn’t even notice.

It’s pretty weird how much of it is mental.

Outside should be a little tougher. On the treadmill you can change up your gait to sort of let the treadmill do more of the work; whereas, running outside it is 100% up to you to propel yourself forward.

But then again, I find running on the treadmill to be, possibly, the most boring activity on the face of the earth. Running outside does help me mentally.

I know loads of runners and don't know any that think outside running is easier.. a few don't like treadmill running, but all say the treadmill is easier.

Apart from the obvious stuff, like weather conditions, half of the problem people have with running distances is pacing. The treadmill does that for you, it won't let you **** yourself over by starting too fast because you are in a crowd at a start line.

Treadmills are for speed workouts and outdoors are for tempo\slow runs. If your goal is to be like a kenya runner than you set that bitch at 8MPH and do a 6 x 800 with a 400 break and just progressively build out your distance every week (speed wise). Tempo runs are outside and you set a distance and push your tempo with a running watch (once a week).

Just saw the x-rays you posted in the trivia forum. Crazy!

Did anyone notify Ubeja Vontell?

Lmao I'll send an email to his ghost

The treadmill is much softer; allows you to heel strike and bounce without incurring shin splints or other injuries. Also, it pulls your feet back with every stride, so you have to use less energy to run a particular speed.

Lol

I hate the treadmill. Too ****ing boring, and if you run like Pacheco you're liable for any damages

Is the thought of carcosa posting his x-rays making anyone else horny or is it just me

Me to

I was Hornee thinking about that coyote lmao

LFG!

So I just ran it this morning. It was definitely harder, IMO. Part of it had to do with the fact the first mile and half were running into a light breeze. It was a pretty flat run but the mild inclines at a few spots were definitely felt as well. Not sure if I’ll do another…I really don’t enjoy running. But I’m glad I did it! And I did pretty much maintain my same treadmill pace, which has always been 6mph. No broken bones that I know of either!

I run with my huge phone in my left hand. Cuz there is a running app and I split screen it with youtube music I listen to. What I know I dont do correctly and don't understand is the breathing thing. I simply have a horrible time breathing with my nose while doing aerobic activity. It feels borderline nauseating if I try to breath even partly with my nose. When I gasp and breathe solely with my mouth when doing strenuous activity I immediately feel more energized. And I know that is opposite as people say.

Always knew you were a mouth breather

Confirmed

How are your foot bones now

STRONGER THAN EVER