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RunKC 04-05-2024 09:31 AM

Would you trade 32 for 50 & 53?
 
New Athletic mock us is trading with the Eagles for picks 50 and 53 so they can come up to take Graham Barton.

I wouldn’t in this scenario bc Amarius Mims goes 1 pick before us to SF. Xavier Worthy is also on the board so I’m not sure the Chiefs trade down in that scenario either.

If the top tackles were all gone would you sacrifice Xavier Worthy to trade 32 for 50 and 53 and have three 2nd rd picks?

I think I’d do it tbh

staylor26 04-05-2024 09:44 AM

Yea, not a huge difference in the caliber of player at 32 and both of those spots.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 09:44 AM

If we can’t trade up and take Mims? Yeah…probably. We can always trade up higher in the 2nd if there is someone we really want.

staylor26 04-05-2024 09:45 AM

You can go WR/OT/WR in the 2nd or WR/OT/CB.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2024 09:50 AM

Yeah, I'd almost certainly do that.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17472007)
You can go WR/OT/WR in the 2nd or WR/OT/CB.

If there is still an OT there, for sure. But I'm almost just leaning towards bringing Donovan Smith back and letting him and Wanya battle it out in TC. Maybe grab a raw OT in the 4th or 5th and see what they have too.

staylor26 04-05-2024 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17472016)
If there is still an OT there, for sure. But I'm almost just leaning towards bringing Donovan Smith back and letting him and Wanya battle it out in TC. Maybe grab a raw OT in the 4th or 5th and see what they have too.

I'd be fine with that if they think the other games outside of the Raiders game are more indicative of the guy we'll get in year 2.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 09:59 AM

I could even be talked into grabbing a DE or DT in the 2nd with one of those picks.

kcbubb 04-05-2024 10:03 AM

That’s interesting. It depends on who’s available obviously at 32 but if the top 6 WRs and LTs are gone, which includes Guyton, Mims, Ad Mitchell, and B Thomas. Yes, I’d move back and take a LT like Kingsley or the Yale LT, Kiran Am or ND’s Fisher. And then take Legette or Coleman if he falls that far.

Dante84 04-05-2024 10:04 AM

Man... if all 3 of those second round picks hit, that would be pretty fun.

Couch-Potato 04-05-2024 10:06 AM

Every year we pick at the bottom of the 1st and I end up wishing we had x3 2nd rounders instead.

RunKC 04-05-2024 10:15 AM

From what I’m hearing this will be one of the best 2nd rds in a long time.

I’ve listened to Nate Tice, Dane Brugler and Nick Jacobs (OL review) and they all have similar feelings about this 2nd rd being so good. These are the guys they love.

Koran Amegadjie OT Yale-elite footwork and body size. His feet are as fast as the best tackles in this class. He needs to develop his hands and leverage but he’s the ideal moldable LT. It’s not gonna be easy to beat him on the edge.

Brandon Dorlus DL Oregon-Screams Spags. Lined up everywhere on the DL. Isn’t a great bend type rusher but has elite athleticism for his size. He’s basically a shorter more athletic version or Charles Omenihu. Outstanding hands and short area speed.

Javon Baker WR UFC-only transferred bc he had Waddle, Devonta and J Williams keeping him on the bench. Excellent route running ability to go with size. He can manipulate DB’s in a similar way AB did by varying his routes. Chiefs had him in on a private visit.

Blake Fisher-Only reason he didn’t play LT is bc Joe Alt. Probably more of a RT but he’s got everything you could want there. Everyone thinks he’s gonna be a very good pro

CupidStunt 04-05-2024 10:32 AM

It's obviously tempting but it's still quite a way down. There'd have to be no one I like on the board, but still a bunch of dudes I'd be happy with in the 50s. Not sure that is the case for me personally. I don't see ANY way there's a day one starting-caliber OT on the board that late.

I guess if you want WR at 32, you'd be happy trading down.

Come to think of it, I'd probably rather go up for an OT than down for a WR. If we can hit on that position, I think it completely changes the offense for the next decade. Pat simply has never had that type of luxury, great blindside protection, and we've been blessed that Pat can overcome guys making his job harder.

I'm getting way off topic now but give me a starting LT early, a complimentary WR in round 2 to settle in behind Kelce/Rice/Hollywood, use that cap space wisely and let's roll.

kccrow 04-05-2024 10:35 AM

I'd do it because of the strength of the class at the positions we need this year.

Legit chance you could end up with a good player at DT, LB, or CB to go with what you need.

Could trade our 3rd with 50 to get back up around 38 or so and have 38-53-64 which is fine by me too.

Hoover 04-05-2024 11:26 AM

I think there are multiple ways do trade down and accomplish this. I don't think you have to drop all they way from 32 to the 50s. But after playing around on the simulators you can sure fill some needs and walk away with a hell of a draft.

Nightfyre 04-05-2024 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17472069)
I'd do it because of the strength of the class at the positions we need this year.

Legit chance you could end up with a good player at DT, LB, or CB to go with what you need.

Could trade our 3rd with 50 to get back up around 38 or so and have 38-53-64 which is fine by me too.

Give me:

Legette
Amegadjie
Kneeland

GG NFL. GG.

BlackHelicopters 04-05-2024 11:57 AM

Yes.

Jerm 04-05-2024 12:10 PM

I would not...I'm either moving up or staying put.

staylor26 04-05-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17472228)
Give me:

Legette
Amegadjie
Kneeland

GG NFL. GG.

Yea good example of what you can do with those picks. I'd be very happy with those 3.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17472228)
Give me:

Legette
Amegadjie
Kneeland

GG NFL. GG.

Those three and bring back Donovan Smith.

staylor26 04-05-2024 12:20 PM

Legette
Lassiter
Amegadjie

Even better

The Franchise 04-05-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17472324)
Legette
Lassiter
Amegadjie

Even better

Funny...I just did that in my mock that I posted in the draft simulator thread.

50 Xavier Legette WR | South Carolina
53 Kamari Lassiter CB | Georgia
64 Kiran Amegadjie OT | Yale
95 Jaylen Wright RB | Tennessee
131 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State
159 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State
173 Myles Cole EDGE | Texas Tech
221 Joe Milton QB | Tennessee

staylor26 04-05-2024 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17472339)
Funny...I just did that in my mock that I posted in the draft simulator thread.

50 Xavier Legette WR | South Carolina
53 Kamari Lassiter CB | Georgia
64 Kiran Amegadjie OT | Yale
95 Jaylen Wright RB | Tennessee
131 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State
159 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State
173 Myles Cole EDGE | Texas Tech
221 Joe Milton QB | Tennessee

How weird lol.

That would definitely be an A+ draft though.

Nightfyre 04-05-2024 12:31 PM

I think we draft the punter from BYU at 221 - reports are the kid is freaky. But I aint going to watch, let alone search for, punting videos.

staylor26 04-05-2024 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17472361)
I think we draft the punter from BYU at 221 - reports are the kid is freaky. But I aint going to watch, let alone search for, punting videos.

But why? We have the Punt God.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17472361)
I think we draft the punter from BYU at 221 - reports are the kid is freaky. But I aint going to watch, let alone search for, punting videos.

Why? We have Punt God for cheap.

Nightfyre 04-05-2024 12:54 PM

Competition. Apparently this kid can like draw and fade the ball, put weird spins on it and such.

The Franchise 04-05-2024 12:57 PM

Yeah...I'm not spending a draft pick on a punter for competition sake.

RunKC 04-05-2024 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17472324)
Legette
Lassiter
Amegadjie

Even better

I think the Chiefs will take a LT if they trade up or stay at 32. Feels like they just got a size/athletic developmental LT to work with.

I think they will see what happens in the draft. If LT doesn’t work out rd 1 I think they just call Donovan Smith

staylor26 04-05-2024 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17472498)
I think the Chiefs will take a LT if they trade up or stay at 32. Feels like they just got a size/athletic developmental LT to work with.

I think they will see what happens in the draft. If LT doesn’t work out rd 1 I think they just call Donovan Smith

I think they go WR honestly. I thought so before the Rice situation, and while I obviously think that's being blown out of proportion, it still might make it a little more likely.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's LT though.

MahomesMagic 04-05-2024 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17472053)
From what I’m hearing this will be one of the best 2nd rds in a long time.

I’ve listened to Nate Tice, Dane Brugler and Nick Jacobs (OL review) and they all have similar feelings about this 2nd rd being so good. These are the guys they love.

Koran Amegadjie OT Yale-elite footwork and body size. His feet are as fast as the best tackles in this class. He needs to develop his hands and leverage but he’s the ideal moldable LT. It’s not gonna be easy to beat him on the edge.

Brandon Dorlus DL Oregon-Screams Spags. Lined up everywhere on the DL. Isn’t a great bend type rusher but has elite athleticism for his size. He’s basically a shorter more athletic version or Charles Omenihu. Outstanding hands and short area speed.

Javon Baker WR UFC-only transferred bc he had Waddle, Devonta and J Williams keeping him on the bench. Excellent route running ability to go with size. He can manipulate DB’s in a similar way AB did by varying his routes. Chiefs had him in on a private visit.

Blake Fisher-Only reason he didn’t play LT is bc Joe Alt. Probably more of a RT but he’s got everything you could want there. Everyone thinks he’s gonna be a very good pro


Koran Amegadjie OT Yale-elite footwork and body size. His feet are as fast as the best tackles in this class. He needs to develop his hands and leverage but he’s the ideal moldable LT. It’s not gonna be easy to beat him on the edge.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense for a 2nd round pick.

RunKC 04-05-2024 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17472524)
I think they go WR honestly. I thought so before the Rice situation, and while I obviously think that's being blown out of proportion, it still might make it a little more likely.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's LT though.

I think they want a young capable starting LT. It’s hard to tell what that will happen. Think for us the draft starts at pick 20. If one of the tackles fall to around 22 I think Veach starts calling.

If that doesn’t work out I think WR will be up next unless they get a very good trade down offer. Of course it depends on what the board looks like


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