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dirk digler 10-24-2023 04:43 PM

***Official 2023-2024 NBA Thread***
 
Can't believe the NBA Season is starting tonight. Way to early but here we go.

Lakers vs Nuggets: 6:30PM

Suns vs Warriors: 9PM

Both on TNT

MVChiefFan 10-24-2023 04:48 PM

Excited to see my Suns! Hopefully our depth will be much improved.

dirk digler 10-24-2023 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 17187899)
Excited to see my Suns! Hopefully our depth will be much improved.

I was kind of disappointed that both teams won't be at full strength for Game 1. Shit NBA pre season is short and soft.

MVChiefFan 10-24-2023 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17187911)
I was kind of disappointed that both teams won't be at full strength for Game 1. Shit NBA pre season is short and soft.

Yep, I agree. It will still be great to watch.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 05:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is the greatest player of all time <br><br>“Some guys might say he is No. 2, but other guys like me, I say he is No. 1, and he’s still going,” <br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/joevardon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@joevardon</a> ) <a href="https://t.co/PDn7Ev4zrH">pic.twitter.com/PDn7Ev4zrH</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1716473818678546648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fair and true. The GOAT returns tonight.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2023 05:52 PM

First quarter of this Lakers game was necessary.

Pre-season doesn't mean much but the Lakers weren't playing with any defensive cohesion or intensity whatsoever.

They needed to get punched in the mouth and reminded that defense matters even in the regular season.

staylor26 10-24-2023 05:54 PM

Once again, KCC proves how completely full of shit he is.

4 posts into the new thread for this season and he's already displaying his insecurity.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17187956)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is the greatest player of all time <br><br>“Some guys might say he is No. 2, but other guys like me, I say he is No. 1, and he’s still going,” <br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/joevardon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@joevardon</a> ) <a href="https://t.co/PDn7Ev4zrH">pic.twitter.com/PDn7Ev4zrH</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1716473818678546648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fair and true. The GOAT returns tonight.

Don't make me mute another goddamn NBA thread.

Seriously - we get it. I'll start a Non-LeBron ball washing thread if you can't keep from spamming this one into oblivion.

Knock it the **** off.

staylor26 10-24-2023 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17187973)
Don't make me mute another goddamn NBA thread.

Seriously - we get it. I'll start a Non-LeBron ball washing thread if you can't keep from spamming this one into oblivion.

Knock it the **** off.

If he says it enough times it'll be true though! Don't you see?

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17187973)
Don't make me mute another goddamn NBA thread.

Seriously - we get it. I'll start a Non-LeBron ball washing thread if you can't keep from spamming this one into oblivion.

Knock it the **** off.

Is it any surprise that the Lakers fell to pieces when LeBron left the floor in the 1st quarter tonight?

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17187972)
Once again, KCC proves how completely full of shit he is.

4 posts into the new thread for this season and he's already displaying his insecurity.

I can't help that LeBron's peers see him for who he is.

staylor26 10-24-2023 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17187981)
I can't help that LeBron's peers see him for who he is.

Whatever you say clown.

"Consensus doesn't matter but individual opinions that agree with me do!"

It's like you base your entire Internet personality on Barry. What a loser.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17187983)
Whatever you say clown.

"Consensus doesn't matter but individual opinions that agree with me do!"

It's like you base your entire Internet personality on Barry. What a loser.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me officially entering my 21st straight season defending LeBron&#39;s legacy <a href="https://t.co/JFG6DSmsyo">pic.twitter.com/JFG6DSmsyo</a></p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1716969464393027669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Always so personal. I would say that the individual opinion of one of the few multi-time MVPs in league history who played with LeBron in the back third of his career probably has some merit in that discussion, though, yeah.

TheGreatCassholio 10-24-2023 06:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely dropped LeBron ��<a href="https://t.co/uUG0EYBf7W">pic.twitter.com/uUG0EYBf7W</a></p>&mdash; BetMGM �� (@BetMGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/BetMGM/status/1716972840153477408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatCassholio (Post 17188003)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely dropped LeBron ��<a href="https://t.co/uUG0EYBf7W">pic.twitter.com/uUG0EYBf7W</a></p>&mdash; BetMGM �� (@BetMGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/BetMGM/status/1716972840153477408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

By stepping on his foot and tripping him, yeah. Offensive foul.

TheGreatCassholio 10-24-2023 06:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron off the side of the backboard ���� <a href="https://t.co/ofHz6F15dF">pic.twitter.com/ofHz6F15dF</a></p>&mdash; Odds Shark (@OddsShark) <a href="https://twitter.com/OddsShark/status/1716963853240512943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:35 PM

LeBron, the only guy in the starting lineup with a positive plus/minus with his team still down double digits.

Even at 40, some things never change.

Miles 10-24-2023 07:41 PM

You don’t have to add 14 months to his age to make it sound more impressive

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 17188086)
You don’t have to add 14 months to his age to make it sound more impressive

He's the oldest player in the league and has been playing in the NBA for over 20 years so these things can be be hard to keep track exactly.

staylor26 10-24-2023 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 17188086)
You don’t have to add 14 months to his age to make it sound more impressive

LMAO

TambaBerry 10-24-2023 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17188090)
He's the oldest player in the league and has been playing in the NBA for over 20 years so these things can be be hard to keep track exactly.

How many years

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17188093)
How many years

Enough years to fill well over a dozen rosters full of teammates that have let him down.

Looks like we're about to add another group to the list. No clue why D'Angelo Russell is still on this team.

staylor26 10-24-2023 07:50 PM

Can't wait for that Nuggets vs Suns and Celtics vs Bucks conference finals.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17188102)
Can't wait for that Nuggets vs Suns and Celtics vs Bucks conference finals.

It will be the Nuggets-Warriors unfortunately.

dirk digler 10-24-2023 07:52 PM

Same type of game and same outcome as the West Finals

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 07:56 PM

Same moron that counts fake covid titles. Let's start a non LeBum ball washing thread and the clown can have a circle jerk with himself

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188104)
Same type of game and same outcome as the West Finals

Might have something to do with the fact the Nuggets are way better than the Lakers.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17188107)
Same moron that counts fake covid titles.

Don't forget the 2020 national championship for KU. Deny it all you want, but those things happened.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 07:58 PM

That's what I was referring to. Insecure people lie. It's what they and you do...but since you insist. Ya that bubble title doesn't count either ROFL

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17188110)
That's what I was referring to. Insecure people lie. It's what they and you do...but since you insist. Ya that bubble title doesn't count either ROFL

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r...kers-title.jpg

Looks real enough to me.

dirk digler 10-24-2023 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17188108)
Might have something to do with the fact the Nuggets are way better than the Lakers.

I was expecting the Lakers to bring more energy and play pissed off. But nope.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 08:02 PM

As real as a Patriot title that you don't count?

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188118)
I was expecting the Lakers to bring more energy and play pissed off. But nope.

That team is cooked...just like it's leader

Pepe Silvia 10-24-2023 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17188122)
That team is cooked...just like it's leader

Lebron is too busy producing movies and making them about himself.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17188132)
Lebron is too busy producing movies and making them about himself.

He'll be wrasslin Cena at next year's Summer Slam

dirk digler 10-24-2023 08:14 PM

Can’t believe CP3 plays for GS

TribalElder 10-24-2023 08:14 PM

Michael Jordan is the MF G.O.A.T.



NBA players are overpaid

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2023 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 17188137)
Michael Jordan is the MF G.O.A.T.



NBA players are overpaid

Yup and covid prevented another rock choke. Both are so true!

dirk digler 10-24-2023 08:18 PM

This Suns team is stacked

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188118)
I was expecting the Lakers to bring more energy and play pissed off. But nope.

You expected a near-40 year old LeBron who has been going through the motions in regular season games for a half decade now and AD of all people to play pissed off? I somehow doubt that.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 17188137)
Michael Jordan is the MF G.O.A.T.



NBA players are overpaid

Neither of those statements are true.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17188119)
As real as a Patriot title that you don't count?

You'd need to be specific about which Patriot title, but yes, those are only surpassed in their fakeness by the KD Warriors titles.

Sassy Squatch 10-24-2023 08:21 PM

LMAO Holy shit, it's the season opener.

dirk digler 10-24-2023 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17188147)
You expected a near-40 year old LeBron who has been going through the motions in regular season games for a half decade now and AD of all people to play pissed off? I somehow doubt that.

Sure did. They got punked\swept in the West finals, Nuggets shit talking them, Ring night…. No reason not to come out energized and not want to punch them in their mouth

Sassy Squatch 10-24-2023 08:29 PM

Wonder just how big of a story Barkley pressing Silver on the DV will become. Sounds like the NBA isn't too happy with the Chuckster at the moment.

KC_Connection 10-24-2023 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188162)
Sure did. They got punked\swept in the West finals, Nuggets shit talking them, Ring night…. No reason not to come out energized and not want to punch them in their mouth

You're talking about AD here, right? You'd almost have to never have watched him play at all to believe such a thing could even be possible.

dirk digler 10-25-2023 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17188184)
You're talking about AD here, right? You'd almost have to never have watched him play at all to believe such a thing could even be possible.

Well he talked a good game :D

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: AD was motivated for a solid hour <a href="https://t.co/VFhjrkQPVO">pic.twitter.com/VFhjrkQPVO</a></p>&mdash; Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1716998698801250668?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Plow 10-25-2023 08:16 AM

Tagging this years MJ is the Goat thread. :D

loochy 10-25-2023 10:51 AM

Well it's official - Dwight Howard caught teh ghey.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...suit-dismissed


Quote:

In court documents obtained by ESPN, Howard said Monday that he engaged in "consensual sexual activity" with a man named Stephen Harper during a July 2021 encounter at Howard's Georgia residence.

Perineum Ripper 10-25-2023 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17187973)
Don't make me mute another goddamn NBA thread.

Seriously - we get it. I'll start a Non-LeBron ball washing thread if you can't keep from spamming this one into oblivion.

Knock it the **** off.



Well can we go ahead and get the new thread, this one already has AIDS and needs put down.

staylor26 10-25-2023 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perineum Ripper (Post 17188838)
Well can we go ahead and get the new thread, this one already has AIDS and needs put down.

Ok, you have my avy and I don't even know who you are. Did you get a name change too or something?

Perineum Ripper 10-25-2023 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17188845)
Ok, you have my avy and I don't even know who you are. Did you get a name change too or something?

Mac, was my previous name. I changed the picture when everyone else did and forgot about it

staylor26 10-25-2023 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perineum Ripper (Post 17188862)
Mac, was my previous name. I changed the picture when everyone else did and forgot about it

Lol ok I know who you are now. I was just curious.

dirk digler 10-25-2023 11:52 AM

KCC I have a personal request. Could you please keep your Lebron posts to a minimum or just related to his game play this year? There is quite a few people that would like to discuss the NBA this year and are turned off by this.

Of course we ask the people that don't like Lebron to not spam the thread bashing on him either and just keep it to game play as well.

This also means please no MJ vs Lebron comparisons. That is a tired debate.

Please and thank you.


:)

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2023 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188896)
KCC I have a personal request. Could you please keep your Lebron posts to a minimum or just related to his game play this year? There is quite a few people that would like to discuss the NBA this year and are turned off by this.

Of course we ask the people that don't like Lebron to not spam the thread bashing on him either and just keep it to game play as well.

This also means please no MJ vs Lebron comparisons. That is a tired debate.

Please and thank you.


:)

Good luck with that

Eureka 10-25-2023 11:56 AM

Oh wow a new NBA thread.

See Post #5


Seems like the old thread!

KC_Connection 10-25-2023 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188896)
KCC I have a personal request. Could you please keep your Lebron posts to a minimum or just related to his game play this year? There is quite a few people that would like to discuss the NBA this year and are turned off by this.

Of course we ask the people that don't like Lebron to not spam the thread bashing on him either and just keep it to game play as well.

This also means please no MJ vs Lebron comparisons. That is a tired debate.

Please and thank you.

:)

LeBron is the greatest player in the league's history (and some would say effectively is the NBA). So long as there are posts about the NBA, you're naturally gonna get posts about him from me and many others.

Also, I'm one of the few people here who actually post about non-LeBron related NBA matters with any regularity. It can't be helped that the LeBron matters are what trigger the most discussion from those who still haven't accepted what he is.

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 12:20 PM

Could've just said no

dirk digler 10-25-2023 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17188958)
LeBron is the greatest player in the league's history (and some would say effectively is the NBA). So long as there are posts about the NBA, you're naturally gonna get posts about him from me and many others.

Also, I'm one of the few people here who actually post about non-LeBron related NBA matters with any regularity. It can't be helped that the LeBron matters are what trigger the most discussion from those who still haven't accepted what he is.

It is more about your first post in this thread. Stuff like that. We all get it you think he is the GOAT, others don't so we don't need to keep going down that road.

Talking about how he or anybody else in the NBA are playing currently is fair game and should be discussed.

I am not the hall monitor though but I thought I would at least ask politely.

staylor26 10-25-2023 12:31 PM

It's so obvious that he's overcompensating due to insecurity.

The Franchise 10-25-2023 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17188968)
Could've just said no

LMAO

But how would he be able to pass up the chance to say his name?

loochy 10-25-2023 12:36 PM

Well, since Lebron is clearly the greatest of all time with no equal, there is no point in having conversations about how Lebron is the greatest of all time because he is so obviously the greatest of all time. But I won't talk about how great Lebron is because it's clear that he's the greatest of all time and being the greatest of all time speaks for itself.


/kcconnection

Mr. Plow 10-25-2023 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17188968)
Could've just said no

Can't jam the word "Lebron" 3 times into "No."

Mr. Plow 10-25-2023 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17189006)
LMAO

But how would he be able to pass up the chance to say his name?

Damnit! Beat me to it. LMAOLMAO

staylor26 10-25-2023 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17189026)
Well, since Lebron is clearly the greatest of all time with no equal, there is no point in having conversations about how Lebron is the greatest of all time because he is so obviously the greatest of all time. But I won't talk about how great Lebron is because it's clear that he's the greatest of all time and being the greatest of all time speaks for itself.


/kcconnection

The more you say it the more true it becomes!

KC_Connection 10-25-2023 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17188990)
It is more about your first post in this thread. Stuff like that. We all get it you think he is the GOAT, others don't so we don't need to keep going down that road.

Talking about how he or anybody else in the NBA are playing currently is fair game and should be discussed.

I am not the hall monitor though but I thought I would at least ask politely.

The first post in the thread was, in effect, a continuation of the ongoing years-long discussion I've had here about how LeBron's peers view him. Those people know exactly what it was in response to.

And unsurprisingly, just one LeBron post this hour has led to about a dozen more about him. If everyone doesn't want to talk about LeBron so much, I would suggest they certainly have a weird way of showing it.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 01:30 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9TdmxBb...g&name=900x900

Hammock Parties 10-25-2023 01:30 PM

ahahhahahahah

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Who’s your daddy?” chant in Denver. <a href="https://t.co/gRqwvRC81i">pic.twitter.com/gRqwvRC81i</a></p>&mdash; Dave McMenamin (@mcten) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1716996758184587531?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bearcat 10-25-2023 01:48 PM

I know it's a running joke these threads are 90% Lebron/GOAT/KCC talk, and given this thread is less than 24 hours old and there's already at least two different asks in this thread to knock off the LeBron/GOAT bullshit plus another reported post....

....knock off the Lebron/GOAT bullshit.

staylor26 10-25-2023 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17189137)
ahahhahahahah

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Who’s your daddy?” chant in Denver. <a href="https://t.co/gRqwvRC81i">pic.twitter.com/gRqwvRC81i</a></p>&mdash; Dave McMenamin (@mcten) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1716996758184587531?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/V0oWH2HfzQ">pic.twitter.com/V0oWH2HfzQ</a></p>&mdash; Mike Honcho (@MikeHoncho069) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeHoncho069/status/1717012246243737901?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

KC_Connection 10-25-2023 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17189160)
I know it's a running joke these threads are 90% Lebron/GOAT/KCC talk, and given this thread is less than 24 hours old and there's already at least two different asks in this thread to knock off the LeBron/GOAT bullshit plus another reported post....

I'd love to know who is sensitive enough to report a post in one of these threads LMAO

BWillie 10-25-2023 02:16 PM

The legend of Chet starts tonight.

Go to the casino and bet on OKC to win more than 43.5 games. They are just giving money away.

staylor26 10-25-2023 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17189179)
I'd love to know who is sensitive enough to report a post in one of these threads LMAO


https://i.imgur.com/ESuyu50.gif

dirk digler 10-25-2023 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17189179)
I'd love to know who is sensitive enough to report a post in one of these threads LMAO

Wasn't me

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 03:37 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P~gAA...sy/s-l1200.jpg

KC_Connection 10-25-2023 04:06 PM

I should have known.

Sassy Squatch 10-25-2023 04:22 PM

LMAO I didn't actually report anyone.

staylor26 10-25-2023 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17189441)
LMAO I didn't actually report anyone.

Brooke Pryor rubbing off on you? :D

KC_Connection 10-25-2023 04:40 PM

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...77l7/giphy.gif

Pitt Gorilla 10-25-2023 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17188164)
Wonder just how big of a story Barkley pressing Silver on the DV will become. Sounds like the NBA isn't too happy with the Chuckster at the moment.

Doubt Barkley GAF. Go on a segment with him, he'll ask/say what he wants to ask/say. One of the reasons I loved him growing up.


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