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cmh6476 04-04-2023 11:16 AM

Pats shopping Mac Jones?
 
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...vailable-trade

It's unclear which teams Belichick has contacted about trading Jones, but Florio listed the Las Vegas Raiders, Houston Texans, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Commanders as "potential destinations," noting Josh McDaniels' Raiders as a team to "keep watching."

Bowser 04-04-2023 11:24 AM

Hahaha
https://c.tenor.com/ukLknYj_XaAAAAAC/good-childish.gif

DJ's left nut 04-04-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 16889185)
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...vailable-trade

It's unclear which teams Belichick has contacted about trading Jones, but Florio listed the Las Vegas Raiders, Houston Texans, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Commanders as "potential destinations," noting Josh McDaniels' Raiders as a team to "keep watching."

McDaniels is such a ****ing fraud.

htismaqe 04-04-2023 11:25 AM

ROFL

Of course McDaniels would want Jones. The Patriot connection is the ONLY reason he wanted Jimmy G.

AdolfOliverBush 04-04-2023 11:26 AM

It's the "Who wants zero chance at a Super Bowl for several years" sweepstakes.

notorious 04-04-2023 11:26 AM

Shop that piece of shit at the local Family Dollar.

Dunerdr 04-04-2023 11:27 AM

Who the **** would want Mac Jones? There are several decent qb's in the draft and the guys barely a better passer than Lamar Jackson. BB is willing to move on for a reason.

smithandrew051 04-04-2023 11:32 AM

I wish Deberg was here for this

notorious 04-04-2023 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16889242)
I wish Deberg was here for this

https://gifdb.com/images/high/we-bar...4hsv7dl7fg.gif

Buehler445 04-04-2023 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16889217)
McDaniels is such a ****ing fraud.

And the sun rises in the East.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2023 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16889217)
McDaniels is such a ****ing fraud.

His name is McBugel.

Prison Bitch 04-04-2023 12:10 PM

Nobody will agree but I like Jones fine. He’s a lot like Andy Dalton to me. Is that gonna win many playoff games? No, but Dalton has a 83-77 record which is pretty good compared to the field.


If you squint hard enough and dream, Jones has some Brady in him. People forget but Brady wasn’t “Brady” until his monster 2007 season. Here were his first 6 years QB rating:


86.5
85.7
85.9
92.6
92.3
87.9


Avg = 88.5. (Mac through two seasons = 89.0)

Barret 04-04-2023 12:59 PM

Isn't there a rumor that BB is pissed at Mac Jones for going outside the organization to get help to be a better QB or something?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...on-per-report/

Jones got a crappy defensive coordinator as the OC and the Great Bill Belicheat is angry that his QB is looking for some actual help? Dude is so out of tune with reality.

lewdog 04-04-2023 01:10 PM

He’d probably get a high level XFL contract so ship him there!

New World Order 04-04-2023 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16889242)
I wish Deberg was here for this

"Mac Jones vs Patrick Mahomes"

Skyy God 04-04-2023 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16889225)
Who the **** would want Mac Jones? There are several decent qb's in the draft and the guys barely a better passer than Lamar Jackson. BB is willing to move on for a reason.

What’s BB’s record without TB12??

penguinz 04-04-2023 01:35 PM

Jones loves to cheap shot so the Faiders would be a perfect fit.

kccrow 04-04-2023 01:51 PM

Jones has the potential to be better than a lot of QBs in the NFL. His rookie year was really solid. You'd think someone would be a buyer. You'd think the Commanders would be interested if the rumors were true though. I'd have to think the Titans, Falcons, and Vikings too.

George Liquor 04-04-2023 01:53 PM

These morans still haven't learned that "The Patriot Way" is to get extremely lucky and find a generational talent at Qb in the 6th round and have him be propped up even higher by massive refball his entire career?

carcosa 04-04-2023 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16889225)
Who the **** would want Mac Jones? There are several decent qb's in the draft and the guys barely a better passer than Lamar Jackson. BB is willing to move on for a reason.

Lamar Jackson is definitely a better passer than Mac ****ing Jones lmao

Pablo 04-04-2023 01:57 PM

Macorkle is an enormous pussy. Remember when he hurt his ankle and had to be carried off the field crying like he’d just put his dog down?

Such a shit tier loser. I never want him to leave New England. They deserve him

Balto 04-04-2023 02:06 PM

I mean..

Raiders get:
#14
Mac Jones

Pats get:
#7

That gives Mac Jones a 2nd round value.

Prison Bitch 04-04-2023 02:08 PM

Supposedly the INT are a problem, avg 12 per

Brady avg 13 per his first six seasons

Dunerdr 04-04-2023 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16889521)
Lamar Jackson is definitely a better passer than Mac ****ing Jones lmao

I'll be honest with you maybe he is, maybe he isnt. I'm not sure its in the best interest of anyone on this planet to make either argument though. **** them both.

Kman34 04-04-2023 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16889220)
ROFL

Of course McDaniels would want Jones. The Patriot connection is the ONLY reason he wanted Jimmy G.

Please let this happen… We will go on a Bronco streak on them..

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-04-2023 03:40 PM

Thought I read the Raiders signed Hoyer today

Mecca 04-04-2023 03:45 PM

Belichick has gone senile, he's old as hell and is hiring his kids as coaches.

kccrow 04-04-2023 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16889739)
Thought I read the Raiders signed Hoyer today

They did, 2 years I think it was.

loochy 04-04-2023 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16889739)
Thought I read the Raiders signed Hoyer today


So they have Garrapolo and Hoyer...and they want Jones too? :hmmm: Why are they trying to corner the market on mediocre to bad QBs?

RealSNR 04-04-2023 03:48 PM

"Do your job"

New World Order 04-04-2023 03:48 PM

BB is lost without Tom Brady

kccrow 04-04-2023 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16889758)
So they have Garrapolo and Hoyer...and they want Jones too? :hmmm: Why are they trying to corner the market on mediocre to bad QBs?

They don't want Jones, it's just reported that they are one of the teams Bill reached out to about trading Jones.

Bill is pissed off that Jones went outside the organization to get help being a better QB... Pretty stupid thing to be pissed off about. If my QB was trying to get better, I'd definitely be all about it. It comes down to being a control freak of epic proportions.

Buehler445 04-04-2023 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16889766)
They don't want Jones, it's just reported that they are one of the teams Bill reached out to about trading Jones.

Bill is pissed off that Jones went outside the organization to get help being a better QB... Pretty stupid thing to be pissed off about. If my QB was trying to get better, I'd definitely be all about it. It comes down to being a control freak of epic proportions.


Really?

What's the story? I missed it.

kccrow 04-04-2023 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16889773)
Really?

What's the story? I missed it.

see post #13 of this thread and also this:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...vailable-trade

Buehler445 04-04-2023 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16889775)
see post #13 of this thread and also this:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...vailable-trade

Thanks.

Belicheat is such a ****knuckle.

I'm so glad we're over the whole Cheatriot Castoff game.

Mecca 04-04-2023 04:07 PM

Belichick really views anyone not in the Patriot tree as outsiders...what the ****?

notorious 04-04-2023 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16889780)
Thanks.

Belicheat is such a ****knuckle.

I'm so glad we're over the whole Cheatriot Castoff game.

We barely lived through a horrid case of the paidstriot way. We are now immune to their bullshit.

scho63 04-04-2023 04:55 PM

Who the **** wants Crack Jones?

Dude sucks.

raybec 4 04-04-2023 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16889786)
Belichick really views anyone not in the Patriot tree as outsiders...what the ****?

It's definitely over the top but there's a line where I understand his thoughts. The last thing you want is a Russell Wilson situation where his personal coaches are taking up practice time and team facilities all while not making him any better as a player. If the "outsdider" was teachine something that Billy disagrees with I can see that being an issue.

Pablo 04-04-2023 05:14 PM

If you ever saw this pic of your qb, you'd want to trade his ass away ASAP as well

https://wp.clutchpoints.com/wp-conte...s-Patriots.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017...3146980808.jpg

Rolled ankle v. bat to knee.

RealSNR 04-04-2023 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16889854)
It's definitely over the top but there's a line where I understand his thoughts. The last thing you want is a Russell Wilson situation where his personal coaches are taking up practice time and team facilities all while not making him any better as a player. If the "outsdider" was teachine something that Billy disagrees with I can see that being an issue.

But the problem is that Belishit hasn't developed an offensive coach in years. All of his OCs have been re-hires ever since O'Brien left to go coach the Texans.

You'd think a guy who is constantly getting his coaching staff picked over by dumbass reerun teams would work harder to put trust in his position coaches. But instead, all he can do is commit to re-hiring the guys who were epic failures in other situations. And in the case of last year, he hated his offensive position coaches so goddamn much he put a DC and a ST coordinator in "joint" charge of the offense.

Andy Reid went through this kind of weird ass trip in Philly when he promoted his OL coach to DC that one year. He scrapped that plan and only lasted one more season in that town.

This is the end of Belichick. He's done after this season.

raybec 4 04-04-2023 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16889908)
But the problem is that Belishit hasn't developed an offensive coach in years. All of his OCs have been re-hires ever since O'Brien left to go coach the Texans.

You'd think a guy who is constantly getting his coaching staff picked over by dumbass reerun teams would work harder to put trust in his position coaches. But instead, all he can do is commit to re-hiring the guys who were epic failures in other situations. And in the case of last year, he hated his offensive position coaches so goddamn much he put a DC and a ST coordinator in "joint" charge of the offense.

Andy Reid went through this kind of weird ass trip in Philly when he promoted his OL coach to DC that one year. He scrapped that plan and only lasted one more season in that town.

This is the end of Belichick. He's done after this season.

If they miss the playoffs again he's definitely done. And honestly, on paper they're the worst team in that division.

Bump 04-04-2023 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16889762)
BB is lost without Tom Brady

which is funny, when I first moved here all the Pats fans were telling me their success was 80% the genius that is Bill Belichick and 20% Tom Brady. LOL

Rainbarrel 04-04-2023 06:38 PM

Trade him for Hopkins. Murray and Jones duel to the pout!

Bump 04-04-2023 06:47 PM

are the Pats going to go with that backup QB Pats fans were giving a standing O for?

Buehler445 04-04-2023 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16889908)
But the problem is that Belishit hasn't developed an offensive coach in years. All of his OCs have been re-hires ever since O'Brien left to go coach the Texans.

You'd think a guy who is constantly getting his coaching staff picked over by dumbass reerun teams would work harder to put trust in his position coaches. But instead, all he can do is commit to re-hiring the guys who were epic failures in other situations. And in the case of last year, he hated his offensive position coaches so goddamn much he put a DC and a ST coordinator in "joint" charge of the offense.

Andy Reid went through this kind of weird ass trip in Philly when he promoted his OL coach to DC that one year. He scrapped that plan and only lasted one more season in that town.

This is the end of Belichick. He's done after this season.

OBrien is a competent coach. He might buy Belicheat a little time until he does dumb shit like trading back 500 times and not drafting until the 5th or picking a slow linebacker in the first or something Cheatriotish.

But Belicheat managed to find a disgraced Cheatriot ****bag that is actually competent in a limited capacity.

Megatron96 04-05-2023 10:32 AM

I don't think this rumor is true. He'd have been picked up by now if it were.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16889540)
I mean..

Raiders get:
#14
Mac Jones

Pats get:
#7

That gives Mac Jones a 2nd round value.

As a person that hates the Raiders (and finds the Patriots merely an irrelevant anachronism at this point) please please please make this happen.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16889758)
So they have Garrapolo and Hoyer...and they want Jones too? :hmmm: Why are they trying to corner the market on mediocre to bad QBs?

Ryan Mallet hasn't stepped away from his phone in 3 months.

He knows this is his time to shine...

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16889805)
We barely lived through a horrid case of the paidstriot way. We are now immune to their bullshit.

There are still a couple Patriots fans who occasionally stick their stupid heads up to say something patronizing.

Fortunately I think they've mostly been brow-beaten into submission at this point. There's obviously Asterisk but he wasn't the only one. That one dipshit SteveGroganFan guy was always good for some mindless truism cast as insightful patriot way condescension.

Man I'm glad those guys are irrelevant again.

Bob Dole 04-05-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890795)
Ryan Mallet hasn't stepped away from his phone in 3 months.

He knows this is his time to shine...

That kid is such an idiot. I've talked to him.

I know TISD paid his daddy enough to move in district they didn't live in the hood, but you'd never know it by talking to him.

Hammock Parties 04-05-2023 11:00 AM

someone is about to get the next matt cassel for pennies on the dollar!

lcarus 04-05-2023 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890801)
There are still a couple Patriots fans who occasionally stick their stupid heads up to say something patronizing.

Fortunately I think they've mostly been brow-beaten into submission at this point. There's obviously Asterisk but he wasn't the only one. That one dipshit SteveGroganFan guy was always good for some mindless truism cast as insightful patriot way condescension.

Man I'm glad those guys are irrelevant again.

One day our asses will be brow-beaten into submission and irrelevancy. I hope it's a long time from now. Like 20 years sounds good to me.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-05-2023 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890791)
As a person that hates the Raiders (and finds the Patriots merely an irrelevant anachronism at this point) please please please make this happen.

DJ,

I thought we were pals. :mad:

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16890850)
One day our asses will be brow-beaten into submission and irrelevancy. I hope it's a long time from now. Like 20 years sounds good to me.

I don't go on Bears or Colts fan forums and tell them they're idiots for not recognizing the greatness of Ryan Pace or Chris Ballard.

Imma be alright...

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16890857)
DJ,

I thought we were pals. :mad:

Everybody gotta take a whupin' sometimes...

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-05-2023 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890872)
Everybody gotta take a whupin' sometimes...

Well, I didn't want McDoofus. :cuss:

Megatron96 04-05-2023 11:30 AM

Serious question: how did Mac jones post the numbers he did in college, and then continue to post near-top-10 QBR/Passer Rating stats with no weapons in 2021? Did he just get lucky, or does he actually have some talent?

Buehler445 04-05-2023 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16890897)
Serious question: how did Mac jones post the numbers he did in college, and then continue to post near-top-10 QBR/Passer Rating stats with no weapons in 2021? Did he just get lucky, or does he actually have some talent?

He can stand in the pocket and throw accurately.

He cannot create.

So if you hire a DC to call high school plays, he’s going to look bad.

I don’t know how much there wasn’t any film on him or his capacity to read defenses or understand protections or running game concepts. But he’s not Palko out there.

My opinion is he can develop into a Tannehill Cousins type. A guy you can win with but not because of.

RealSNR 04-05-2023 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16890850)
One day our asses will be brow-beaten into submission and irrelevancy. I hope it's a long time from now. Like 20 years sounds good to me.

I do root for Andy Reid tree guys to succeed (most of the time, unless they coach an especially shitty franchise or are playing the Chiefs) but I've never said to my Bears fan friends, "Okay, listen up you jackholes. You know nothing about football because your team doesn't have any success. You've got a guy who comes from a tree of excellence, so let me tell you all about how he's going to fix your ass backwards ways..."

raybec 4 04-05-2023 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890801)
There are still a couple Patriots fans who occasionally stick their stupid heads up to say something patronizing.

Fortunately I think they've mostly been brow-beaten into submission at this point. There's obviously Asterisk but he wasn't the only one. That one dipshit SteveGroganFan guy was always good for some mindless truism cast as insightful patriot way condescension.

Man I'm glad those guys are irrelevant again.

That dude really went over the edge when people started calling him that. Good times

lcarus 04-05-2023 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16890869)
I don't go on Bears or Colts fan forums and tell them they're idiots for not recognizing the greatness of Ryan Pace or Chris Ballard.

Imma be alright...

Lol I wonder who are the Chiefs fan versions of SteveGroganFan or any of those Patriot Way guys. I don't visit other team forums and try not to read twatter comments so I don't know. Certainly they exist by this point. Wonder if it's anyone from here.

scho63 04-05-2023 01:16 PM

Mac Jones, only $9.98 on Amazon!

https://thatsweetgift.com/wp-content...1cB030e5kL.jpg

Rainbarrel 04-05-2023 01:56 PM

He can be had for a backup price for the next two years(around 2 per). The new Chase?

Mecca 04-05-2023 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16891106)
Lol I wonder who are the Chiefs fan versions of SteveGroganFan or any of those Patriot Way guys. I don't visit other team forums and try not to read twatter comments so I don't know. Certainly they exist by this point. Wonder if it's anyone from here.

I'd do it to be hilarious...but at the same time that seems time consuming to troll people.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16890978)
That dude really went over the edge when people started calling him that. Good times

Best. Mod abuse. Ever.

Mecca 04-05-2023 02:08 PM

So the Raiders hired Amendola to be their WR coach, they are really embracing Patriot way.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16891106)
Lol I wonder who are the Chiefs fan versions of SteveGroganFan or any of those Patriot Way guys. I don't visit other team forums and try not to read twatter comments so I don't know. Certainly they exist by this point. Wonder if it's anyone from here.

I mean if I did, I'd have to come up with some shockingly annoying handle like "The Centaur!"

And I'd have to sign off each post with something like "Taste the Nectar"...

I mean lets face it, I'd essentially have to develop a Drunk Holthus character and just play it for all it's worth.

"You're gonna have to DEAL with the Chiefs....CENTAUR OUT - TASTE THE NECTAR, PLEBES!"

Mecca 04-05-2023 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16891222)
I mean if I did, I'd have to come up with some shockingly annoying handle like "The Centaur!"

And I'd have to sign off each post with something like "Taste the Nectar"...

I mean lets face it, I'd essentially have to develop a Drunk Holthus character and just play it for all it's worth.

"You're gonna have to DEAL with the Chiefs....CENTAUR OUT - TASTE THE NECTAR, PLEBES!"

Isn't that the character that Mitch is now?

DJ's left nut 04-05-2023 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16891224)
Isn't that the character that Mitch is now?

He gets hilariously mouthy at Chiefs Kingdom events and of course the parades.

And it's funny because he's just so damn corny. He's just bad at it. Dude - you're too earnest to talk shit.

It's like Matt Cassel out there throwing down smack.

RealSNR 04-05-2023 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16891222)
I mean if I did, I'd have to come up with some shockingly annoying handle like "The Centaur!"

And I'd have to sign off each post with something like "Taste the Nectar"...

I mean lets face it, I'd essentially have to develop a Drunk Holthus character and just play it for all it's worth.

"You're gonna have to DEAL with the Chiefs....CENTAUR OUT - TASTE THE NECTAR, PLEBES!"

Mitch is too rah rah to be the Chiefs equivalent of one of these weirdo Pats fans. Stevegroganfan gets off too much on saying, "See, Chiefs fans? I'm one of you! Let me tell you about Patriots history that you don't care about..."

Find the Chiefs fan who is completely desperate to be well-liked by other fan bases, and that's probably your comp.

cmh6476 03-10-2024 10:19 AM

mentioned in the free agency thread, but...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade: Patriots are finalizing a deal to send QB Mac Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars, sources tell ESPN. The trade cannot be processed until the new league year begins Wednesday and he passes a physical. The two sides were discussing a 6th-round pick, per sources.<br><br>Jones was… <a href="https://t.co/dOceAGDDTm">pic.twitter.com/dOceAGDDTm</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1766843436013900080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

sounds like only the jags were interested.

ThaVirus 03-10-2024 10:20 AM

Jacksonville is hella random

Pablo 03-10-2024 10:31 AM

God he was such a piece of shit. I wanted him to be there forever. I'm just hopeful whoever they draft this year ends up being just as big of a piece of shit.

Bwana 03-10-2024 10:35 AM

Damn, I was hoping the donks would snag him!

RedinTexas 03-10-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17434881)
Damn, I was hoping the donks would snag him!

Don't worry. Paton and the Donks have much bigger and grander plans for failure.

Easy 6 03-10-2024 11:38 AM

Pederson thinks he can polish that turd, lulz

Chris Meck 03-10-2024 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17434951)
Pederson thinks he can polish that turd, lulz

I imagine he figures that a cheap decent backup is worth a 6th.

Easy 6 03-10-2024 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17434953)
I imagine he figures that a cheap decent backup is worth a 6th.

Yeah he got dude for a ham sammich, not much risk there if he can rehab Mac

Chris Meck 03-10-2024 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17435045)
Yeah he got dude for a ham sammich, not much risk there if he can rehab Mac

He's a low end starter, for sure, but would be a pretty good backup.


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