Windows 11
 

Windows 11 leak reveals new UI, Start menu, and more

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Early reviews state this may be the new Windows Vista.

We will see I suppose. I normally judge for myself.

I have an older desktop I use a lot and when I updated it to Windows 10, it functions like it's in super slow mode a lot of the time, while other times it's fine in short periods.

I assume it doesn't have enough memory to run Windows 10?

So it's a mac

I'm just waiting for the next Windows 2000. Best OS ever IMO.

How much RAM do you have? Minimum 4GB should be enough for Windows 64b. Running other apps will cut into that, especially Chrome.

I have 4GB but I do run Chrome all the time.

This computer originally had Windows 7.........

Chrome is a hungry bitch. Especially if you leave lots of tabs open like I do....

8GB should be considered the current absolute minimum for Windows these days. And RAM is cheap...

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Jesus Christ, working in IT this will be a cluster **** with end user complaints

Poor bastards...

Not sure this upgrade is really worth corporate upgrades. As far as I can tell at this point. At least until MS drops support for 10.

Regardless, a good rollout should limit the user complaints.. Those complaint service desk calls go into the trash anyway.

Interesting. I see mine is 4GB DDR3. I have an older Asus desktop. Can I replace this RAM myself and upgrade to 8GB?

I only use my desktop for surfing the web, my stock screener, some basic work stuff and streaming sports. I don’t play any games.

* You couldn't pay me enough to support end users. I did it for 3 years after college and I'm still surprised to this day I didn't strangle someone or get fired.

* I'm pretty sure it's possible to limit the amount of memory Chrome or pretty much any browser can use with a little tinkering. It might be adding a user flag to the call in properties > Target

Ex: C:\Users\nip\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe --disk-cache-size-35000000

That's obviously not memory but what it would look like.

* I could have sworn I read somewhere that Win 10 would be the last roll out and MS would be updating long time.

Lucky for me I don’t support them, but I do run a MSP. That being said when you go out in the market there are so many legacy systems, I wonder what shit Windows 11 will break.

Oh god, make it stop...

Which model ASUS do you have?

Let me take a picture of the label and post it.

Consider yourself blessed.

Hold back the jealousy!

https://i.imgur.com/kdxIi99.jpg

Yep.

Chrome is RAM hungry. So are quite a few collaboration tools like WebEx. Of course, MS Office apps like Outlook are resource hungry.

I'm getting ready to phase Windows out completely here - I've got my home computing down to where the only devices that need continuous support are the Windows machine and they are simply that much more "hands on" than everything else.

Dude, that's not bad. More RAM will fix you right up and it's an easy install. Happy to assist if you'd like.

:thumb:

Upgrading to 16Gb of RAM would make that thing almost like a new computer. The i3 is underpowered but a RAM upgrade would get a lot more life out of it.

Technically, that's just the specs. On the bottom of the laptop, it should list the model number. If you can find the model number, I can tell you if you can upgrade the RAM, and what kind you would need.

It’s a desktop.

I’ll try to get the model number tonight.

jesus **** no

windows 10 still has issues sometimes for ****'s sake...constant updates it seems

we do not need windows 11 for at least a couple years

Windows Update is the single biggest problem with Windows. If updates were better, supporting Windows would be SO much easier. I'd say 80% of issues are caused by updates.

WTF? I thought Windows 10 was the "last" windows system. Basically, WIndows would now be called...Windows, no more new versions, just updates.

Oy. Well, we'll be staying with Win10 until the NEXT one (Windows 12?) comes out. It seems Windows sucks every other version. I liked NT, ME was shit, XP was good, Vista sucked, Win7 was good, Win8 sucked, and I actually like Win10.

I have 12 years to retirement...

Yeah, the model number is definitely important because it’s quite possible that the motherboard can handle only 8 gigs of Ram, tops.

My wife had an older i5 Dell Inspiron with 8 gigs of Ram, which was maxed out, and that thing was so slow I tossed it in the recycle bin after I built my latest PC in April. I can’t even imagine an i3 with 4 gigs of Ram.

Yup. N-1 is industry practice.

After you pulled the HDD or SSD right?

Oh yeah, I wiped the hard drive, then took a hammer to it. :D

I don't even throw away dead hard drives that were used in my studio, I just keep them in a box in my garage.

Disposing of them is not worth the risk, however infinitesimally small.

If they don't have errors, I keep them. Otherwise, they get burned.

I'm so not looking forward to W11, usually every other windows is ok but the in betweens are garbage.

There are some major differences for sure, but I have trouble getting too worked up about it. Everyone threw a fit when they dumped the start menu in Windows 8, but these days I barely use it. Moving the icons to the middle is definitely very Mac-like, but I'm sure the point is to reduce the amount of mouse movement, and people will get used to that pretty quickly.

Just in general, though, it's hard to care that much anymore. For most people, your web browser has far more to do with your day-to-day computing experience than your OS does.

I still use my windows like windows 98. I use My Computer which gets more hidden with every version of windows. I definitely use the start menu and windows 10 did a great thing with it allowing the search function.

Sure, but some of us are on our computers 40+ hours a week for work and not talking a web browser. Changes to the OS can make a difference so we will whine about it thank you very much.

:harumph:

And I too remember Microsoft's claim about Windows 10 being the last one.

Asus m11ad

This looks like 10x but rebranded for mArKeTiNg Buzz

I have done some work on the dev preview and it's ok

Any hypen trailing that? E.g. M11AD-US009O, M11AD-US017O

Looks like you have 2 slots allowing for a max of 16GB. DDR3 1600 or DDR3 SDRAM but not sure which yet.

Not that I see. I’ll text you. Imgur is down so I can’t post it.

Received. Here it is:

https://www.newegg.com/asus-m11ad-us...82E16883220448 I like that case a lot.

16GB max, 2 slots. You don't need 16 so hopefully you just have one stick of 4 installed so we can just add one more for around $20.

https://www.amazon.com/4gb-1600mhz-d...mhz+ddr3+sdram DIMM 240-pin

Here's your user manual: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/55...sus-M11ad.html

Here's a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIl6mmosgMc

MB pic received. One stick is all you need to add to the open slot. And get a can of air and clean out the dust and dirt in there and everywhere else. It's piled on your processor inside it's cooling fan like a sand dune. That can cause heat issues (probably is), unseating, and a myriad of other issues. The fan might not even be spinning up to max speed with all that Arizona in there and up around the post. Shoot, try that first and see if it improves things. Ideally, you'll want to remove the fan during cleanup. An air compressor works great! MS Edge uses far less RAM too. I've been real happy with Edge.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/161d...itemid=9577750

Ditto! After they finally learn Windows 10 now this! :cuss:

I gotta assume you can move the start button, as you can now in 10.

You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you.

I'm going with this one unless anyone else has suggestions?

https://www.amazon.com/PC3-12800-DES...3899438&sr=8-3

Probably best to see what the specs are for the stick you have to make sure throughput is not compromised and bottlenecking between the two. But I'm fuzzy on that so I'll defer.

So I should remove the stick currently in the computer to look at all the specs?

I'll wait for tomorrow and anyone else's input here.

Most likely it will have 2 identical sticks of RAM installed. So, you'll likely have to remove both if you want to add anything else. I would not recommend mixing different types of RAM. i3 motherboards typically use paired RAM(2 identical sticks), to take advantage of dual-channel capabilities(better performance). I'm guessing it has 2 sticks of 2GB installed. Normally you can use a single stick, but performance is actually better with a pair, since it can take advantage of dual-channel.

In this case, considering the price and the performance benefit of going from 8GB to 16GB, I would recommend going with 16GB.

Either 8GB pair: https://www.amazon.com/PC3-12800-DES...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Or 16GB pair: https://www.amazon.com/1600MHz-PC3L-...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Quit being cheap, buy a Cray!

There’s only 1 stick of RAM in it currently but has 2 slots available. So I should buy a pair and put 2 new ones in, instead of mixing the one old one and one new one? What size would you recommend?

My wife just said to not be a dumbass and get a 16GB upgrade since it's so cheap.

So I guess that's the decision too.

Also, I'll order an anti-static wrist band just to be safe.

This.

Get a 16GB pair, there's no reason to do anything else.

Your wife is smart.

Have an SSD drive installed and, along with the 16GB of RAM, you'll think you bought a new computer.

I’ll order the 16GB that fish linked. Is that the consensus?

I can't speak to consensus but the A-Tech 8GBx2 pair Fish linked for $62.25 is exactly what I would buy and install.

That’s good enough for me.

Ordering!

Thank you all for the help.

16GB is a significant performance upgrade over what you have. Add an SSD like Gloy suggested and you might think it's a whole new computer. The i3 still has a few years left in it for basic computing.

That's one souped up Pinto!

I've been monkeying around inside computers for over 20 years and never worn and anti-static wrist band.

Has anyone else ever done that, or been bit because they didn't?

I had an engineer buddy show me how to do my first build 5 years ago. I got a wrist band. He laughed at it. Touch the case to ground off and you’re good to go.

I never have. I just take off my shoes. But I've also fried a brand new processor as a result one time. We don't see a lot of static electricity out here. But Monsoon season started yesterday and there were dry thunderstorms in the valley.

The only time I've ever worn a wrist strap is when I'm in a data center.

This. Only other times I ever worried about grounding was when replacing CRTs in the original iMacs. Those things will shock the hell out of you and make you piss yourself.

Correct decision. :thumb:

This, I've put together so many rigs through the years and never used a band. Just ground yourself and your good to go.

So how do you ground yourself when working on computers?

Just touch the metal frame of the computer before you go messing around inside. That'll remove any static electricity.

Just touch the case while you seat the RAM with your other hand.

I have to do this one handed?!?!?!

I mean honestly just seat the ram right and dont be scared to push down, you will be scared at first.

But out of all the computers components RAM can take abuse (DONT ACTIVELY ABUSE IT)

Also depending on configuration of your unit (1x16gb stick or 2x8gb) if you only have two DIMs it will be easy. If you have 4 you need to make sure its in the right channel.

Dont worry tho your computer will tell you right away if you ****ed up with either LED lights or Beeping.

Yep.

You don't have to. Just touch the frame with your hand before you start to discharge or make sure your forearm is touching the case as you use both hands to insert the RAM. It really isn't hard, you'll be fine.

There is a notch slighly offset on the slot and the memory stick. That's there so you can't put it in wrong.

And probably avoid wearing a wool jacket. But yeah, beyond that, I've never used a strap in my life and haven't ever had a problem.

Like I said, I've worn them in the data center because of things like carpet squares and modules that are so large they require both hands.

On a homebuilt PC, I've never worn a strap and never had an issue.

I've seen laptop ram in a desktop DIM...... There is 100% chance someone can seat it wrong if they try hard enough.

There are no screws. They just snap in and will lock into place with simple thumb pressure. Give it a practice with what you have now.

LOL. ROFL

God, they aren't even the same length. How in **** did they get it to stay in?

Yep. The biggest thing is making sure the clips actually snap into place. Usually it means snapping in the RAM, making sure it's seated, and then pressing the clips again to make sure they click.