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RunKC 10-05-2020 12:00 PM

Bieniemy definitely gone after this year
 
Enjoy him while you can. Sirius radio made mention that 3 teams are already researching him.

Gonna guess that’s the Jets, Lions and Bengals.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs OC getting his respect 💯<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfldraftscout</a>) <a href="https://t.co/kQea67gIJx">pic.twitter.com/kQea67gIJx</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1312776480569659392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

HemiEd 10-05-2020 12:04 PM

I am shocked.

poolboy 10-05-2020 12:05 PM

Good Luck without Mahomes

pugsnotdrugs19 10-05-2020 12:05 PM

Can’t believe it.

RealSNR 10-05-2020 12:07 PM

The Jets interviewed him two offseasons ago and said, "Thank you for your time, Eric, but we believe we will play good football under head coach Adam Gase."

If I'm Bieniemy, I tell the Jets to get ****ing lost.

Sassy Squatch 10-05-2020 12:07 PM

What???!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!???!??!!??

notorious 10-05-2020 12:09 PM

Sooooo, we cuss Andy Reid when there is a bad play call, yet praise Bienemy when things are humming.

Remember how badly teams wanted Gase when he was the OC for Manning? Now it's obvious Manning carried that relationship.

Is Mahomes like that with Bienemy?

RunKC 10-05-2020 12:09 PM

Go to the Bengals Eric. Joe Burrow will be a top 10 QB and your main competition is a RB and an old declining rapist on his last legs.

The Franchise 10-05-2020 12:09 PM

If I’m Eric....I hold out for a good team. **** coaching the Jets.

Spott 10-05-2020 12:10 PM

I think the only option there that looks appealing is Cincinnati.

Why Not? 10-05-2020 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15218163)
Enjoy him while you can. Sirius radio made mention that 3 teams are already researching him.

Gonna guess that’s the Jets, Lions and Bengals.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs OC getting his respect ��<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfldraftscout</a>) <a href="https://t.co/kQea67gIJx">pic.twitter.com/kQea67gIJx</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1312776480569659392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Bengals not gonna pull the plug on Zack Taylor just yet. I bet the 3rd team is the Falcons.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15218183)
Go to the Bengals Eric. Joe Burrow will be a top 10 QB and your main competition is a RB and an old declining rapist on his last legs.

Major issue in Cincy is the OL. Fail to get that straightened out and Burrow will retire before age 30 like Andrew Luck. Generally speaking, these seem like the best landing spots based on the QB/weapons situation at least...

1. Detroit
2. Atlanta
3. Houston
4. Cincy

I think he should stay far away from the Jets. Darnold is a broken dude.

staylor26 10-05-2020 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15218183)
Go to the Bengals Eric. Joe Burrow will be a top 10 QB and your main competition is a RB and an old declining rapist on his last legs.

The Bengals don’t currently have an opening and barring them not winning any other games this year, I don’t think they will.

They aren’t going to fire Taylor if Burrow continues to have success this year.

AdolfOliverBush 10-05-2020 12:14 PM

He should avoid all of those teams like the plague. Just stay in KC and take over when Reid retires. :thumb:

staylor26 10-05-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15218192)
Major issue in Cincy is the OL. Fail to get that straightened out and Burrow will retire before age 30 like Andrew Luck. Generally speaking, these seem like the best landing spots based on the QB/weapons situation at least...

1. Detroit
2. Atlanta
3. Houston
4. Cincy

I think he should stay far away from the Jets. Darnold is a broken dude.

If he goes to the Jets, they’re drafting Lawrence.

O.city 10-05-2020 12:16 PM

When you look at those franchises.....why would you leave KC? Stay, win SB"s get a raise, not have any pressure.

RunKC 10-05-2020 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15218193)
The Bengals don’t currently have an opening and barring them not winning any other games this year, I don’t think they will.

They aren’t going to fire Taylor if Burrow continues to have success this year.

It wouldn’t surprise me seeing that their management kept a loser with no playoff wins for decades and then finally replaced him with an inexperienced frat boy who happened to jerk off Sean McVay.

It’s a stupid franchise that could ruin a really good QB. They play the Redskins this year too. Not sure if Burrow will Walk out of that game healthy.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15218197)
If he goes to the Jets, they’re drafting Lawrence.

Still no guarantee of success with him. The rest of that Jets roster is a dumpster fire. That's quite a change for Trevor compared to Clemson with a major talent advantage over 99.9% of the teams they face.

FAX 10-05-2020 12:19 PM

EB was fortunate this year.

A new HC in the Year Of Covid would have been tough as hell.

Now, he can write in his own paycheck number.

FAX

staylor26 10-05-2020 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15218206)
It wouldn’t surprise me seeing that their management kept a loser with no playoff wins for decades and then finally replaced him with an inexperienced frat boy who happened to jerk off Sean McVay.

It’s a stupid franchise that could ruin a really good QB. They play the Redskins this year too. Not sure if Burrow will Walk out of that game healthy.

Regardless of whether I like Taylor or not, I just don’t think you give up on a 2nd year HC if he has success with your #1 overall QB.

nychief 10-05-2020 12:20 PM

Time for Kafka to metamorphosize into an... OC.

staylor26 10-05-2020 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15218208)
Still no guarantee of success with him. The rest of that Jets roster is a dumpster fire. That's quite a change for Trevor compared to Clemson with a major talent advantage over 99.9% of the teams they face.

Oh I agree just saying. If he goes there, it’s not to fix Darnold, it’s to groom Lawrence and rebuild around him.

FAX 10-05-2020 12:20 PM

Oh ...

And next year, Kafka will be all the rage as the most attractive HC steal.

FAX

wazu 10-05-2020 12:20 PM

My hope for him would be Atlanta. NFC, talent on offense. Seems like best chance of success.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-05-2020 12:21 PM

Houston....

FloridaMan88 10-05-2020 12:22 PM

I would recommend EB and Lawrence both stay away from the Jets... that franchise is a dumpster fire of California wildfires proportion.

Lawrence will know if the Jets have the #1 overall pick before he has to declare for the draft... he should sit out next year and not enter the draft if they get it.

Hoover 10-05-2020 12:23 PM

ATL would be option #1 for me.
DET would be option #2
HOU #3


All would be decent destinations for him.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15218220)
I would recommend EB and Lawrence both stay away from the Jets... that franchise is a dumpster fire of California wildfires proportion.

Lawrence will know if the Jets have the #1 overall pick before he has to declare for the draft... he should sit out next year and not enter the draft if they get it.

There is no escape for Trevor. Jets might go 0-16 this year and do it again next year. They are THAT damn bad.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-05-2020 12:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was told Clyde Edwards-Helaire is coached the hardest because essentially he has 2 running backs coaches-- his position coach along with OC Eric Bieniemy—a former running back himself. That’s 2 voices always pushing the importance of details and accountability <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1313175913438289920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chieftain 10-05-2020 12:26 PM

If they are going to hire/interview him, do so after the playoffs. Hate seeing coaches hired during the playoffs. League needs to get rid of that rule.

RunKC 10-05-2020 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15218200)
When you look at those franchises.....why would you leave KC? Stay, win SB"s get a raise, not have any pressure.

Reminds me of a good old quote:

“A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for.”

Deberg_1990 10-05-2020 12:29 PM

Denver and Houston should have an openings too. If they are smart

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-05-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15218235)
Denver and Houston should have an openings too. If they are smart

Speaking of Houston

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect Bill O’Brien to call plays the rest of the season.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1313179831501283329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 15218226)
If they are going to hire/interview him, do so after the playoffs. Hate seeing coaches hired during the playoffs. League needs to get rid of that rule.

The rule is in place so that teams have time to interview and hire a new head coach long before the late February Combine, the opening of Free Agency and the new League Year in March.

If the NFL made teams wait until after the Super Bowl to interview coaching candidates, everything would need to be moved back by at least a month, which just isn't happening.

ToxSocks 10-05-2020 12:31 PM

My body is ready for the Kafka era.

FloridaMan88 10-05-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15218237)
Speaking of Houston

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect Bill O’Brien to call plays the rest of the season.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1313179831501283329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So in other words they are tanking now?

Too bad they have nothing to tank for without their first round draft pick.

duncan_idaho 10-05-2020 12:39 PM

Atlanta would probably be a good situation for him... they still have a lot of offensive talent, could draft a young QB that doesn't have to play right away (they can get out of Ryan's contract with less than a crazy amount of $$ owed after next season), and also will have enough premium picks to supplement their roster.

Trey Lance seems like a perfect fit there, as a raw guy who can benefit from some time to sit behind and learn.

CaliforniaChief 10-05-2020 12:46 PM

I'd go with Houston because then he'd be able to have input on personnel also. Also, Deshaun Watson coming into his prime.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-05-2020 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15218237)
Speaking of Houston

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect Bill O’Brien to call plays the rest of the season.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1313179831501283329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gm, head coach, and OC? That's what aTexas sized ego looks like. Too bad he sucks at all 3

smithandrew051 10-05-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 15218271)
I'd go with Houston because then he'd be able to have input on personnel also. Also, Deshaun Watson coming into his prime.

I wouldn’t. Bill ****ed them for the foreseeable future with no picks.

I’d rather he go somewhere to build. Let his success or failure be his own.

CasselGotPeedOn 10-05-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15218237)
Speaking of Houston

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expect Bill O’Brien to call plays the rest of the season.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1313179831501283329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They should draft an elite receiver with their 1st or 2nd round pick

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:00 PM

Jobs that are likely to be open...

Jets
Jaguars
Broncos
Falcons

I'll say Bears and Chargers have a good shot of coming open and the Vikings is also possible.

Of those jobs none of them look like sweet spot jobs.

Mahomes_Is_God 10-05-2020 01:02 PM

I was looking over the Texans' reddit page and those guys want him badly. They despise BoB.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15218325)
I was looking over the Texans' reddit page and those guys want him badly. They despise BoB.

Houston is not firing O'Brien, they keep giving him more power, he is going nowhere.

BleedingRed 10-05-2020 01:07 PM

Houston seems like a no brainer to me. DeSean is not on Mahomes level but of all the QB's that will be looking for a new coach this offseason he could be the best.

Put some pieces around him over next 1-2 years with good play calls. Houston could be it.

Mahomes_Is_God 10-05-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15218330)
Houston is not firing O'Brien, they keep giving him more power, he is going nowhere.

Which is crazy. Those owners must be nuts.

wazu 10-05-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15218330)
Houston is not firing O'Brien, they keep giving him more power, he is going nowhere.

Yeah the way the Texans operate they're more likely to offer him full ownership of the franchise.

Megatron96 10-05-2020 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15218325)
I was looking over the Texans' reddit page and those guys want him badly. They despise BoB.

Wouldn't BOB have to fire himself as HC, then hire EB as HC? Can he do that?

Dante84 10-05-2020 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15218336)
Houston seems like a no brainer to me. DeSean is not on Mahomes level but of all the QB's that will be looking for a new coach this offseason he could be the best.

Put some pieces around him over next 1-2 years with good play calls. Houston could be it.

Houston's cap is ****ed, and they have no quality draft picks. It would make for a slow start.

Mahomes_Is_God 10-05-2020 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15218341)
Wouldn't BOB have to fire himself as HC, then hire EB as HC? Can he do that?

He could pass the HC job on to someone else but I doubt he would be willing to. The guy seems like a huge egomaniac.

KChiefs1 10-05-2020 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15218163)
Enjoy him while you can. Sirius radio made mention that 3 teams are already researching him.

Gonna guess that’s the Jets, Lions and Bengals.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs OC getting his respect [emoji817]<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nfldraftscout</a>) <a href="https://t.co/kQea67gIJx">pic.twitter.com/kQea67gIJx</a></p>— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1312776480569659392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


He’d be better off taking the Bengals job.

Dante84 10-05-2020 01:11 PM

I think Jets, Bengals, Falcons or Lions would be the preferred destinations.

I just hope he doesn't take our whole staff with him when he departs.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:12 PM

Here's the thing apparently Brian Daboll and Matt Eberflus are going to be hot candidates for HC jobs...that seems underwhelming.

Mahomes_Is_God 10-05-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15218353)
I think Jets, Bengals, Falcons or Lions would be the preferred destinations.

I just hope he doesn't take our whole staff with him when he departs.

Nah not the Lions. That team is cursed. The Falcons seem like the best place for him.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15218353)
I think Jets, Bengals, Falcons or Lions would be the preferred destinations.

I just hope he doesn't take our whole staff with him when he departs.

The Falcons cap is really awful and most of their good players are old...

Lions eh, they are like the Jets in they always suck no matter what.

PutQuinnIn 10-05-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 15218173)
Good Luck without Mahomes

He made Matt Money Moore look pretty good.

InChiefsHeaven 10-05-2020 01:14 PM

Not the Broncos...please...I just don't want to hate on the guy, which I will do if he becomes a Donkey...

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15218185)
If I’m Eric....I hold out for a good team. **** coaching the Jets.

Roster-wise (and from an expectations standpoint) the Bengals are a really good fit.

Sadly, Mike Brown is still around but hey - he let Marvin Lewis go 0-7 in the playoffs and kept him around for 16 years because he did the press junket well.

So while Brown won't do much to help you win games, at least he won't hold you accountable for failing to do so. And he's 85 so he may not be around too much longer...

I don't feel like he'd want to face Andy twice/season so I think he'd pass on the Broncos if he could comfortably do so.

The only way you even consider the Jets is if they get 1.1 and even then....boy, that's iffy. They have NOTHING in the pipe there.

dlphg9 10-05-2020 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15218241)
My body is ready for the Kafka era.

Why? Not like anything will change at all. Kafka is probably just as involved in the game plan as Bienemy is now. Andy is and will be until he retires the most influential/deciding voice for the offense. It's not like Andy just keeps getting lucky and gets all these great offensive geniuses. Andy is the only offensive coach that matters.

Dante84 10-05-2020 01:16 PM

Bengals have some good things going if they can get the OLine in good shape.

Would the Jags be a possible destination?

dlphg9 10-05-2020 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PutQuinnIn (Post 15218360)
He made Matt Money Moore look pretty good.

Andy Reid did that.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15218353)
I think Jets, Bengals, Falcons or Lions would be the preferred destinations.

I just hope he doesn't take our whole staff with him when he departs.

Here's hoping he takes House rather than Daly if he does. Unfortunately Daly is also our running game coordinator so EB will probably see some value there.

Merritt and Madison both seem like high quality coaches so we can probably shrug it off if he takes one over the other.

Maybe McCullough goes as his OC?

We'll definitely lose some dudes. Maybe if we're lucky Nagy or Pederson will get canned and he can pick up some of their guys.

Megatron96 10-05-2020 01:22 PM

It's interesting just how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:23 PM

I assume the "hot" candidates a long with Bienemy are going to be Matt Eberflus, Brian Daboll, Robert Saleh, Arthur Smith...I expect Byron Leftwich to get play because of his former player status etc.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15218394)
It's interesting ust how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

Probably when Weis and Crennel were BB assistants that weren't getting hired, people acted like it was a travesty.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15218370)
Why? Not like anything will change at all. Kafka is probably just as involved in the game plan as Bienemy is now. Andy is and will be until he retires the most influential/deciding voice for the offense. It's not like Andy just keeps getting lucky and gets all these great offensive geniuses. Andy is the only offensive coach that matters.

What we'll lose is most likely to be in the 'voice' that EB brings.

To a person, everyone talks about Bieniemy as the teams emotional center. Even defensive guys will talk about how focused/fired up he gets them.

Andy is so cerebral that having a firebrand in the offensive coaching room is probably a pretty good thing. Kafka's just never seemed like that kind of guy.

It gets harder and harder to keep guys focused in the face of success and familiarity. He'll be missed in that regard.

jjjayb 10-05-2020 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15218394)
It's interesting ust how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

I've been a little surprised by this reaction as well. EVERY talking head says it's a travesty he hasn't been hired as a head coach. I don't see it. He's the Offensive Coordinator under Andy Reid. Everyone on the planet knows Andy Reid is basically the offensive coordinator. I don't see being the offensive coordinator on an Andy Reid team as a big selling point. Unless you were a successful O.C. somewhere else too.

Now, if you were a first time defensive coordinator under Andy Reid and did a great job I could see that. Andy has nothing to do with the Defense.

Dante84 10-05-2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 15218409)
I've been a little surprised by this reaction as well. EVERY talking head says it's a travesty he hasn't been hired as a head coach. I don't see it. He's the Offensive Coordinator under Andy Reid. Everyone on the planet knows Andy Reid is basically the offensive coordinator. I don't see being the offensive coordinator on an Andy Reid team as a big selling point. Unless you were a successful O.C. somewhere else too.

Now, if you were a first time defensive coordinator under Andy Reid and did a great job I could see that. Andy has nothing to do with the Defense.

Doug Peterson won a Superbowl with Nick Foles

Sassy Squatch 10-05-2020 01:34 PM

Speaking of the Bengals, the guy they took one pick before Mahomes has been a healthy scratch the past couple of weeks.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15218428)
Speaking of the Bengals, the guy they took one pick before Mahomes has been a healthy scratch the past couple of weeks.

Ross is just a fast dude that isn't great at football, and AJ Green is looking like he's done.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 01:41 PM

There's no guarantee he's leaving.

He's been a head coaching candidate for 2+ years and hasn't left yet.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15218450)
There's no guarantee he's leaving.

He's been a head coaching candidate for 2+ years and hasn't left yet.

Goodell will call in some favors with an owner if he has to.

The outcry will be deafening, rightly or wrongly, if he doesn't get the HC gig.

Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218473)
Goodell will call in some favors with an owner if he has to.

The outcry will be deafening, rightly or wrongly, if he doesn't get the HC gig.

Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

I don't think he wants to be a HC bad enough, honestly.

Does anybody really believe he wants to go to Detroit or New York? He'll be an OC again in 4-5 years.

EB strikes me as a pretty smart guy. Very few "hot" coordinators go on to be wildly successful as head coaches. The vast majority of them flame out.

I mean, he only has to look down the hall at Steve Spagnuolo.

BleedingRed 10-05-2020 01:53 PM

Bunch of franchises with Aging QB's or Brand new ones vs. (Houston) a Franchise QB just entering his Prime.

Like I said, no brainer here.

chinaski 10-05-2020 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218473)
Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

Perhaps he's holding out for the ideal situation. I certainly wouldn't want to risk my reputation on some dumpster fire of a team with shitty ownership.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 15218490)
Perhaps he's holding out for the ideal situation. I certainly wouldn't want to risk my reputation on some dumpster fire of a team with shitty ownership.

Exactly.

Megatron96 10-05-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 15218409)
I've been a little surprised by this reaction as well. EVERY talking head says it's a travesty he hasn't been hired as a head coach. I don't see it. He's the Offensive Coordinator under Andy Reid. Everyone on the planet knows Andy Reid is basically the offensive coordinator. I don't see being the offensive coordinator on an Andy Reid team as a big selling point. Unless you were a successful O.C. somewhere else too.

Now, if you were a first time defensive coordinator under Andy Reid and did a great job I could see that. Andy has nothing to do with the Defense.

Andy might be the OC in all but name, but I don't believe EB is just a parrot either. Somehow I think they're collaborating, both on the game-plan itself, but also in-game calls. In other words, EB may not be designing plays, but I think he's involved in the decision-making process of what is installed, which plays are scripted at the beginning of each half, and maybe even in-game situational calls. It would explain some calls, and why Andy's play-calling has had a different 'flavor' in recent years as some have suggested.

Just a couple examples:

It would explain the Chiefs running 7 straight running plays in the AFCCG against the Titans. Not a particularly Andy thing to do. But a former RB?

It would explain the Chiefs running two consecutive power runs to try and convert that mid-field 3rd- and 4th-downs against the Ravens. Again, just not a particularly Andy thing to do. Even if Andy decided to run for it twice in a row, he probably would've tried some spread formation back in the day, with some misdirection.

And there are other play-calls that struck me as "un-Andy-like," over the last two seasons, but I don't want to digress here.

Not saying I know any of this, just suggesting that there's some evidence that EB is more than an Andy puppet.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15218486)
Bunch of franchises with Aging QB's or Brand new ones vs. (Houston) a Franchise QB just entering his Prime.

Like I said, no brainer here.

Houston has no shot at being relevant for 3-5 years. They have NOTHING in the pipe and very little capital to address it.

If/when Watson inevitably shows statistical regression because Watson simply isn't as good as his hype and his weapons will continue to decline, EB will be blamed for it.

And BoB, for as bad a GM as he is, is actually a pretty decent coach. He's no worse than average. He managed to keep that team dangerous w/ absolute chaff at QB prior to Watson. It wasn't until he got involved in personnel that things fell to hell.

EB could easily be an inferior coach to O'Brien. And if so, the Texans could actually look worse with him running things, even if that's really just an after-shock of BoB's awful job as a GM.

Coochie liquor 10-05-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15218363)
Not the Broncos...please...I just don't want to hate on the guy, which I will do if he becomes a Donkey...

I just don’t see any of Andy’s guys going to work for Failway.

Baby Lee 10-05-2020 02:12 PM

Early on, it seemed like Reid and Bienemy were a bit symbiotic, peas and carrots.

Reid had the crazy ideas and Bienemy metronomed them into operation. Kind of like you need a John Bonham to keep everything together so Jimmy Page can run wild, Bienemy mades sure that everyone knew their role and executed.

But over the years, there have been suggestions that he's taken a page or two from Reid and unearthed old tweaks and twists, like Rose Bowl Right.

When he does get his chance, of course a lot depends on talent pool, but there are few more well-rounded in terms of balancing discipline and creativity.

Whip Smart, to not only maximize his gifts but to recognize and work on his deficits, like Rocky chasing chickens left-handed.


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